Fort Worth woman shot in her own home by police

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Then how they’re training dispatchers needs to be evaluated too. Why wouldn’t they have factored in the obvious fact that the screen door was closed and locked and not visibly tampered with? Why wouldn’t they have factored in the information that the residents cars were present, so there isn’t just a suspected burglar to look for but also residents? Residents that could be theoretically holding a gun if they’re interacting with a burglar (since most law abiding citizens have them for that reason). And of course the obvious, you need to announce you’re police before you start shouting orders at people, beyond that no time was given for the order that was made
It's already been said they don't know (or aren't saying) where the disconnect is on what the neighbor called in and what the police officer's call came in as.

I'll just requote myself here from earlier on in the thread and remove non-relevant aspects:

The article I read also said they were called out there for an Open Structure call rather than a welfare check. Should that be the case I'd like to know where the breakdown in communication came from if the neighbor intended for a welfare check. From what I read they don't know (or at least aren't saying right now) who relayed this information to the officers.

Having watched enough Live PD and Live Rescue (and yeah may be a poor example) there are enough times where they are dispatched to an area for X reason but it's actually Y. Sometimes it's witnesses/victims who relay incorrect information, sometimes it's incorrect information the dispatcher gave to the those responding either due to misunderstanding or something else, etc. Regardless something happened. BUT that being said the officer didn't follow procedure for an Open Structure call either soo...Even in the case of a gun being present the officer didn't announce themselves and certainly didn't leave any time for compliance for an order.
 
For too long people have placed people in authority positions (military, police, fire, etc) on a pedestal like they are something better then the average person

If you are being put into a position in your job where part of your duties includes possibly killing another human being, you should be "better than the average person" or you shouldn't be in that job.
 
If you are being put into a position in your job where part of your duties includes possibly killing another human being, you should be "better than the average person" or you shouldn't be in that job.
You can train and train and train. You can give psychological evaluations before hiring, during training, and after employment.

Until you are in the moment you don't know how you will react.

It is easy to be an arm chair quarterback and see everything in black and white.

The world is grey.
 

Why wouldn’t they have factored in the information that the residents cars were present, so there isn’t just a suspected burglar to look for but also residents?
Could be a hostage situation.

Long ago I had a home with an alarm. The alarm had a key fob that I could use to activate or deactivate the alarm. There was another button that sent a silent alarm so you could call for help without notifying your assailant. While getting ready for work I accidentally pressed the silent alarm button. I opened my door to head to my car and was met by two offices, both guns drawn, yelling at me to stop and raise my hands.

They had walked around the home already and were just about to knock on the door when I surprised them by exiting.

I doubt my cars being present factored into their thinking at all.
 
I do agree that police should be held to a high standard. I also believe that they are human beings. They do have families they live and just want to go home to those families safely. Should they go into a dangerous area with guns a blazing? Of course not. But they do have to go with a certain awareness of the danger. (None of this is said to defend the officer in the situation in the op).

The neighborhood I am talking about is designed in such a way that there is one way in and one way out. It’s just not a drive on through situation. Paramedics have been shot at for trying to get to a sick or injured person and as such the requirement of having the police (if they have ever had to literally wait, I don’t think so. Police patrol that area regularly and are usually close by). Pretty sure the deliveries came about from them being robbed.

Racism is so much more than the extremes. But that doesn’t mean it’s a part of every incident either simply because the individuals are two different races. And sometimes reality is just reality.

One of our neighboring community colleges recently had to put almost half of one of their programs out of school. They had drugs on campus and were caught. Their instructor reported to campus police. From what I was told, about 2/3 of those students were black. And racism has been the accusation. But the reality is, they were breaking the law and the college policies. They were students that just happen to be black, not the other way around.

Neighborhoods are just that neighborhoods. Some are primarily black, some primarily white. Some are dangerous areas, some are not. But they are neighborhoods that happen to be primarily one race and is dangerous. Not dangerous because they are primarily black or white. But saying a neighborhood is dangerous is not racist. It’s the reality of that neighborhood.

School situations are the fault of the state or county or district. If one school is failing, it’s because the leaders of that school have failed it not because of the race of the students. Nor should they or their graduates be held accountable for that failing. And judgement on someone because one “assumes” they attended or may have attended a failing school is wrong but otoh, it’s understandable that an employer would be concerned about the education a prospective employee received. Again the failing is with the administration of the failing schools and the media needs to bring attention to it so that perhaps change will come and these higher ups will be held accountable. If some interviewer gives less consideration to someone because their name may imply to that person that the interviewee attended a failing school then yes, that is on that one person and is racist. But without the attention the media gives these schools, change will never come.
Here’s the thing about the community college scenario. I don’t know the particulars of that case, but often there is a double standard. White kids & even more often affluent white kids get caught breaking the law & they get lenient punishments or get to go to treatment. Black kids get kicked out &/or go to jail. This is one of the reasons jails are disproportionately filled with black ppl. This is why there was a “war on drugs” when there was a crack epidemic, but now we have an “opioid crisis” & advocate for more money for treatment. I don’t think most ppl set out to be racist, but it’s that implicit bias that creeps in there. So on the surface, ppl say “well it’s not racism b/c they broke the rules/law”, but that ignores the double standard that was applied to their white counterparts.
 
...and another one bites the dust.

The attacks, arguing and political comments have closed yet another thread.

As always, thanks for playing.
 
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