Family Dog Attacked- UPDATE Post 67 WITH (Graphic) PICTURES!

whew!

Glad to hear that he's doing well.

I'd still get the neighbors to pay all vet bills though.
 
I really want them to, but I'm not sure they will. My father doesn't even want to go near them at this point.

I did find out that there were witnesses. Our new neighbors across the street heard the ruckus and came out. They didn't see the beginning, but they did see the dog latched onto Schnitzel. They saw my father a couple of days later and he apologized for blowing his top, and they said they thought that he handled it well (or as well as could be expected). I did get a big kick out of part of that conversation. The son was a pizza delivery driver who was sent to fake location, beaten, and robbed, suffering permanent injuries. Afterwards he got a pit bull, and he mentioned that if he still had it he would have loved to have set it on their german shepherd!

I've given up on getting them to report it :(. We had a bad case of a dog with dog-on-dog aggression who was allowed to roam wherever. Multiple people called it in and nothing was done, even after she killed another dog. She injured three or four dogs who were in their own yard (including the dog of the people who lived in the house before the family with the german shepherd). Since they got rid of the dog, my parents believe it isn't worth the headache, and I can't say that I blame them.

Schnitzel continues to do well. He's sleeping now, we had to give him one of his pain pills which also has a sedative to keep from doing too much, and he's pretty much knocked out at the moment, poor thing. I always allow him to sleep in my room (not supposed to- that is how he at my college diploma), and it was so hard not to let him last night. His wounds are still draining, and if he tries to jump off the bed he could hurt himself. :( I always feel like such a mean person when I have to kick him out.
 
I have to say I agree with this.. I have a Jack Russell and she is the sweetest dog ever, loves everyone, and we have two cats. As nice as she is, and as much as she licks the dickens out of one of the cats (is too scared of the other) she does go to Kennel when we are not home. I have researched and am thoroughly convinced if I don't do that, I will come home to a dead cat someday. It is just her nature. She has killed 14 snakes in her year and 1/2 with us, and is very interested in the neighbor's chickens. We have taken measures to keep those dumb chickens safe (though the dog was here first, and is predatory by nature, but instead of building the coop in the side yard, it is right in my dog's view...).

So even with a very loving dog, there are genetic attributes toward doing predatory things... but to say that Jack Russells (or german shepherds etc..) shouldn't be bred is going a little far, isn't it?

It is just like saying that bad parents that raise bullies shouldn't be breeding. Though in principle I might agree, it isn't really realistic.

We got a part Jack Russell from my aunt. The reason? He started to chase the chickens. Once he came to the city (no chickens) he turned out to be a darn good dog.
 
Drum roll please...

We think the neighbors got rid of the dog! My parents haven't seen or heard it in three or four days now, which never happens. All I can say is good riddance!

That is really the best news!! I would call them and ask about the dog just to make sure.
 

So glad that Schnitzel is making a slow but steady recovery, and the hopefully the neighbors have gotten rid of the dog. Unfortunately irresponsible dog owners give the responsible ones a bad name.

We unfortunately had a incident with our dog that showed us no matter how well you think you know your dog they can always surprise you. Our dog is never allowed to roam free, when outside she is always on a leash or in a fenced yard. Prior to this, she always played well with other dogs. We were camping with her, and were taking her for a walk, DH had her and I was pushing DS2 and DS4 in the stroller when a very small dog, maybe 6lbs came running at us from 2 roads over. It had been running free on its owners campsite. The dog ran between me with the boys and DH with our dog, the the other dog started nipping at my dogs paws, the whole time it was barking. All of a sudden our dog picked up the other dog and started to shake it. DH yelled release and our dog did release it immediately, but not before she had hurt the other dog. I know my dog was acting on instinct and protecting her family, as she is very protective of us, but this was the first time she had shown aggression in doing so. Since this we do not allow strangers to pet her and don't allow her out during family parties due to all of the kids. She is now 10 years old and has arthritis (sp?) and we are afraid one of the kids could hurt her by accident, and she could bite in fear or pain and it is not a chance we are willing to take.
 
RF536 said:
a very small dog, maybe 6lbs came running at us from 2 roads over. It had been running free on its owners campsite. The dog ran between me with the boys and DH with our dog, the the other dog started nipping at my dogs paws, the whole time it was barking. All of a sudden our dog picked up the other dog and started to shake it. DH yelled release and our dog did release it immediately

this was the first time she had shown aggression in doing so
You consider this aggression?

I don't. Especially in light of this.

Prior to this, she always played well with other dogs.

Seems to me she was following a natural instinct to protect herself and her family from a hostile loose animal.

Eeyore's Butterfly, I'm sorry about your dog.
 
daisax said:
Socialization is very important, of course, but some dogs are simply dog aggressive and it has nothing to do with how well they're socialized -- they're hard wired that way (as individuals). There's a very strong genetic component to dog on dog aggression. That type of innate dog aggression is easily managed -- you don't let the dog loose with other dogs -- problem solved! So long as you recognize there's a problem and your responsibility to handle it, which it sounds like these lousy owners do not. Of course you shouldn't breed such dogs and pass on those genes.
I completely agree.

I also don't think that a dog who's "dog aggressive" will necessarily be aggressive to children or other humans.
 
I don't really consider it aggression, but it was the 1st time she has done more than growl at what she felt was a threat to us. We do understand that she was acting on instict and protecting us, but we also don't want to take a chance and have her misjudge a situation and bite someone she felt was a threat to us. So for our own peace of mind and since she is getting older and the commotion of parties seems to bother her more we just put her in our bedroom. This is her space anyways, this is where she goes when she wants to be alone and where her food and water dishes are. She is still very much a part of our family, in fact we just got back from a 3 week trip to Disney with her where she camped with us. The boys fight over who gets sleep on the couch with her each night when we camp.
 
You consider this aggression?

I don't. Especially in light of this.



Seems to me she was following a natural instinct to protect herself and her family from a hostile loose animal.

Eeyore's Butterfly, I'm sorry about your dog.

I also don't consider it aggression.

I had my collies at obedience class. I showed them (brace competition) in obedience and we were doing off leash heeling in a class just learning off leash heeling. ( This wasn't our regular class, we were doing extra practice for an up-coming show).

One of the beginner dogs broke pattern and came running toward me (friendly) . My collie didn't know that. She took off before the dog got to me, grabbed it by the neck and threw it to the ground, all the time with my other collie attached to her (thus brace competition) .

My collie released her right away when I yelled and she didn't hurt her, just held her there. The class just stared. The instructor knew us well and she explained to the class that my collie was very protective over me (which she was) and she thought that dog was going to hurt me. Which I'm sure your dog was doing also.



Eeyore's butterfly: I'm glad your dog is doing better. I hope those dogs are gone for good. :hug:
 
I just received some sad news from my mother. Schnitzel is in bad shape. Today he started having bloody diarrhea and vomit. He is at the vet right now where they are giving him fluids and antibiotics.

This came as a complete shock. Schnitzel has been doing very well, recovering quicker than anybody expected. He even went for a short walk last night and really seemed to enjoy it. Our vet expressed surprise that he hasn't had any complications given the nature of the attack and how old he is. It's a good thing my mother was home with a sinus infection today so she was there when it happened and was able to take him into the vet.

Here's what the vet said are the possibilities of what is causing it:
1.) The stress and trauma finally caught up with him
2.) He recovered too fast and did too much too soon
3.) He ate something (very possible. This is the dog that ate our kitchen floor, my bachelor's degree, multiple pairs of glasses, several watches/earrings, headphones, etc.)

Our vet is awesome, she is going to call my folks at about 7 or 8 (they close at 5) and will stay with him. He recovered from such a savage attack, so I am hoping he can recover from this.
 
Hope you get some good news. Its hard when one of our babies get hurt. :hug:
 
This is so sad, especially after he was doing so well. I hope he comes through this. Given his age and how well he did after the surgery, I would say he has a strong will to survive.
 
:hug: Sending a hug your way. Your baby looks just like my daschund, Tedy.
I feel for you and I hope you get better news soon. I often have scares when Tedy and I are out for our walk. It's frustrating to no end to be at the park, and some genius with their dog running free says "oh don't worry, he's harmless". Maybe, but I don't want my dog to be a first.
 
I am so sorry. I hope and pray that the treatment is effective.
 












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