Explosions and shootings in Paris

[Pea-n-Me]

My guess, as far as airports go, as well as many cities, is that heightened security has become "business as usual". And what that looks like today is a lot different than what it looked like fifteen years ago, as we've assimilated to the process.

I read this yesterday:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2015/11/boston_ready_for_threats

"Mayor Martin J. Walsh said yesterday he is “comfortable” with how Boston’s police, fire and EMS have prepared for the threat of attacks. Asked if the city is on high alert, he said, “I don’t think we ever come off that now. We are always on it unfortunately."

 

[TLSnell1981]

Interesting--so it was not just my experience--yeah I do wonder how to take that. Hmmm

Are you flying with a TSA Precheck or Global Entry type program?

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Reports coming out now that "Cowgirl cousin" didn't blow herself up; that she was blown up when terrorist standing next to her detonated his suicide vest.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ber-blew-terror-mastermind-killed-sniper.html

Also explains she said "He's not my boyfriend" in response to police questioning her, "Where is your boyfriend?". If this is true, then her "Help me" may have been real. (What's that old saying be careful about the company you keep?)

 

[CPanther95]

My guess, as far as airports go, as well as many cities, is that heightened security has become "business as usual". And what that looks like today is a lot different than what it looked like fifteen years ago, as we've assimilated to the process.

I think you're probably right. You kinda hope they aren't holding that extra bit of security to be used only AFTER an attack.

 

[LisaR]

My guess, as far as airports go, as well as many cities, is that heightened security has become "business as usual". And what that looks like today is a lot different than what it looked like fifteen years ago, as we've assimilated to the process.

I read this yesterday:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2015/11/boston_ready_for_threats

"Mayor Martin J. Walsh said yesterday he is “comfortable” with how Boston’s police, fire and EMS have prepared for the threat of attacks. Asked if the city is on high alert, he said, “I don’t think we ever come off that now. We are always on it unfortunately."

That makes sense. They likely have every security measure in place that they can without having too many civil liberty groups breathing down their necks. Heightened security is the norm now. Sad that we will probably never be able to take it down a few notches.

 

[asta]

Reports coming out now that "Cowgirl cousin" didn't blow herself up; that she was blown up when terrorist standing next to her detonated his suicide vest.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ber-blew-terror-mastermind-killed-sniper.html

Also explains she said "He's not my boyfriend" in response to police questioning her, "Where is your boyfriend?". If this is true, then her "Help me" may have been real. (What's that old saying be careful about the company you keep?)

I guess the one standing next to her is the third body they have now found. With the gory details of the condition of her body I can see how they might not have known if they had two or three bodies. I don't know if this changes what I think about her luring police vs actually calling for help. She was with them so that argues against an innocent victim. We will never know for sure.

I also find it curious that the family of one of the terrorists are already lawyered up. Especially like the lawyer speaking this morning on behalf of the guy still on the run. I think he is the one caught on film killing people at the cafe. His family is now calling for the him to turn himself in since that mean old 'mastermind' is now dead and can't do him any harm. Spin, spin, spin. Absolutely no sympathy from me.

 

[MickeySP]

I think you're probably right. You kinda hope they aren't holding that extra bit of security to be used only AFTER an attack.

They aren't, at least not here.

 

[NHdisneylover]

My guess, as far as airports go, as well as many cities, is that heightened security has become "business as usual". And what that looks like today is a lot different than what it looked like fifteen years ago, as we've assimilated to the process.

I read this yesterday:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2015/11/boston_ready_for_threats

"Mayor Martin J. Walsh said yesterday he is “comfortable” with how Boston’s police, fire and EMS have prepared for the threat of attacks. Asked if the city is on high alert, he said, “I don’t think we ever come off that now. We are always on it unfortunately."

I fly through FRA a dozen or so times a year and DH goes through there weekly---I am not comparing to 15 years ago There have been times in the past couple of years when there is a higher than normal alert and we see a lot more security presence both in screenings and just in the airport and in the parking garage, etc as well. If it was there today, it was VERY well disguised.
I'm not complaining---I really doubt what we see added is all that helpful, but I was and am surprised.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

^ OK. I was probably thinking about this.

No, I have not. In the past I have seen longer, and more intense screening at passport control and longer lines with more intense screening for security entering in to the gates when terror threat levels are high. I did not see that on either the US or German side this trip--which I found rather surprising given all that is going on in the world. In fact, I breezed through security in Denver faster yesterday than any trip out of the US that I recall in the past decade. I was sort of expecting long lines and more intense scrutiny, but apparently not.

 

[NHdisneylover]

lol I guess "in the past" can be relative. For me that just means sometime prior to right now, not necessarily long ago.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

lol I guess "in the past" can be relative. For me that just means sometime prior to right now, not necessarily long ago.

You specifically mentioned the "past decade", which made me think back to post 9/11 and the changes that came about in the years following it. Anyway, it is hard with the the written word.

 

[NHdisneylover]

Funny! All I meant to say was that it was pretty much the fastest in an entire ten year span--not to indicate that I was comparing now to some one or two trips a decade ago. I must be too jet lagged to be clear. Sorry.

 

[Jon84]

I fly through FRA a dozen or so times a year and DH goes through there weekly---I am not comparing to 15 years ago There have been times in the past couple of years when there is a higher than normal alert and we see a lot more security presence both in screenings and just in the airport and in the parking garage, etc as well. If it was there today, it was VERY well disguised.
I'm not complaining---I really doubt what we see added is all that helpful, but I was and am surprised.

At Charles de Gaulle I've had to dismantle mt DSLR so they could check it out, and this was on the way home!

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Funny! All I meant to say was that it was pretty much the fastest in an entire ten year span--not to indicate that I was comparing now to some one or two trips a decade ago. I must be too jet lagged to be clear. Sorry.

Nope, no need to be sorry, nobody's fault, etc. In reading back I think I was responding into several posts with just one post, not just yours, in a general way - though that phrase was in my head. Anyway

 

[manning]

With a 30 round mag, that's 3 seconds of firing before you have to reload - and 3 seconds of extreme difficulty maintaining your target. That's why our military rarely uses their small arms on full auto. But I think you're missing Gumbo's point. All select fire weapons are banned, so the clause restricting them to non-military caliber weapons only applies to semi-auto weapons. You can get non-military caliber rifles that are just as devastating as military calibers.

Give a trained shooter the option of an AK-47 set to full auto vs a semi-auto rifle, and they will all choose the semi-auto rifle.

The newer M-16 is set to fire a 3 round burst on one pull of the trigger for that reason.

 

[manning]

It appears that at least the British knew something was going to happen but didn't know where and when exactly. Have a friend who was flying to Prague via London on the 11th. She says she made it to London and had to return. London would not allow continuation of the trip into Europe. The only choice was to return.

Haven't seen her yet to get full story.

 

[CPanther95]

The newer M-16 is set to fire a 3 round burst on one pull of the trigger for that reason.

The standard issue M16 has had a burst mode - and no automatic option at all - for about 30 years.

 

[manning]

The standard issue M16 has had a burst mode - and no automatic option at all - for about 30 years.

Been a long time since I've been in the service. At that time the M16 was being fazed in.

 

[CPanther95]

Been a long time since I've been in the service. At that time the M16 was being fazed in.

Must have been like Christmas.

 

[Domo]

The newer M-16 is set to fire a 3 round burst on one pull of the trigger for that reason.

I'll add that in my weapons training, maintaining an accurate target on full auto is damned near impossible. That's why the British Army is trained to fire in 3 and 5 round bursts - think "Bananas" and "Bunch of Bananas". As a PP said, offer me a fully automatic weapon vs. even a bolt action single shot weapon and I'll go single shot all the way. But then again I've always been trained to be precision shooter.