DVC Response About Ebay Commercial Sellers

[prez65]

Prez -- Calm down...you're hyperventilating, and that's not a good thing. This will all be okay in the morning!

I just added something else prior to seeing this...and now I am laughing so hard I can't breath......

 

[JimMIA]

I just added something else prior to seeing this...and now I am laughing so hard I can't breath......

That's not any better than hyperventilating...

 

[mushpurple]

I agree with you Prez. I bought DVC after renting from someone on Ebay a few times.

 

[TCPluto]

I actually spoke with them today about it and specifically spoke with a manager....

Could you post the DVC manager's name you spoke with so I can follow up with them?

Also, could you please post the ebay link you referenced as being cancelled?

I know this has been asked before, but maybe you missed it.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I noticed on a completely different, non-DVC thread, that somewhat noticed that something on eBay was gone. Other people pointed out it was still there. Maybe cookies were keeping her from seeing it.

Possibly could be the same thing here. Jay didn't see it and thought it was gone.

So, everyone, take a biggggg deeeeep breath. Hold it in......... Let it out slowlyyyyyyyyy.....Ahhhhhhhh.

I appreciate Jay talking to Disney. We all know that Disney allows renting, just not commercial renting.

I don't think commercial renting is a good thing. Now some of you rent out your points. As long as you aren't the big guns, you don't have anything to worry about. If you are one of the 25,000 point holders (by various routes and methods), you may have something to worry about. If you've developed your own website to rent out your points, you may have something to worry about. If your posts sound like a travel agent and you aren't one, you may have something to worry about. [Gee, I sound like Jeff Foxworthy. You might be a commercial redneck, uh, renter.]

So if the eBay listing is still there, maybe nothing has happened yet and Jay was just mistaken on something already showing up. It's possible.

Relax and stay cool.

 

[Sammie]

Could you post the DVC manager's name you spoke with so I can follow up with them?

Also, could you please post the ebay link you referenced as being cancelled?

I know this has been asked before, but maybe you missed it.

If you wish to discuss Commercial Renting with DVC, then you can call and they will discuss it, you don't have to speak with the same person the OP spoke with.

 

[TCPluto]

If you wish to discuss Commercial Renting with DVC, then you can call and they will discuss it, you don't have to speak with the same person the OP spoke with.

I could talk to my neighbor about it too, but they wouldn't know what the previous conversation was and the facts surrounding the instant case.

I just think it's a little suspect that they refuse to post the ebay thread referenced. Also, while I certainly agree with the premise of stopping the commercial renters, posting chicken little scare tactics on the DIS to have potential renters think DVC is going to cancel their pending reservations is a little much.

With so little information provided ( and the abundance of information contrary to the OP's statements) this seems a little suspect, but that's just my opinion.

Just looking for a little clarafication from the OP.

 

[Sammie]

I could talk to my neighbor about it too, but they wouldn't know what the previous conversation was and the facts surrounding the instant case.

I just think it's a little suspect that they refuse to post the ebay thread referenced. Also, while I certainly agree with the premise of stopping the commercial renters, posting chicken little scare tactics on the DIS to have potential renters think DVC is going to cancel their pending reservations is a little much.

With so little information provided ( and the abundance of information contrary to the OP's statements) this seems a little suspect, but that's just my opinion.

Just looking for a little clarafication from the OP.

Then your concern is not about getting info about the situation from DVC, but more about proving the OP wrong.

Even if the OP shares the name of the manager he spoke with, DVC is not going to discuss with you the specifics of the conversation with the OP. So what is the point of asking the OP for the manager's name.

Certainly the OP can share the Ebay listing if he wants and it might be gone and that might not have anything to do with DVC, not sure how one would know.

 

[Para2176]

I don't think commercial renting is a good thing. Now some of you rent out your points. As long as you aren't the big guns, you don't have anything to worry about. If you are one of the 25,000 point holders (by various routes and methods), you may have something to worry about. If you've developed your own website to rent out your points, you may have something to worry about. If your posts sound like a travel agent and you aren't one, you may have something to worry about. [Gee, I sound like Jeff Foxworthy. You might be a commercial redneck, uh, renter.]

I think you brought to light an interesting fact.

If DVC really wanted to control so called "commercial renting", then why would they allow any single person to purchase a mega-point contract?

This issue could easily be handled by limiting the number of points any one owner could purchase at a resort. A very reasonable number could be agreed upon that would accomodate most individual owners personal needs, while opening up opportunities for other owners. I believe the current 2000 for any one resort and total of 5000 for all resorts may be a little much.

Unfortunately the convenience of selling off a major contract without forethought is why we are probably debating this issue.

 

[TCPluto]

...more about proving the OP wrong.

DVC is not going to discuss with you the specifics of the conversation with the OP.

Certainly the OP can share the Ebay listing if he wants...

Or having the OP prove his point isn't wrong and that what he said did happen, actually happened.

The DVC manager would certainly speak in general terms if they had a conversation about detering Ebay sales, because they want to stop them (I guess?).

They say they have a link showing the case specific thread, I would think they would want to post it to add credibility to their OP. I'd like to see it, as I can find over 20 DVC rentals on Ebay right now and this clearly is in conflict with the OP.

I'd like for the OP story to be true, but I am a little suspect.

It's not about disproving, it's about substantiating the claim which appears a little reckless.

 

[Jay Foster]

Hey,

Even Dumbo calmed down after my decaf reference! Calm down before some of you have a heart attack or something!

If I get the chance, I'll post the link tomorrow.

I can only tell you what the guy told me and no I don't want to say the guy's name as I didn't ask him if I could post his name on the internet where a bunch of people might go nuts over what he said. But even if I did, I wouldn't think it would be right for a bunch of people to call the guy and drive him nuts over my conversation with him. And given the tone of some of the posts, I think that is exactly what would happen.

Why not pick up the phone, email a link (as I did) and call them yourself? I can't see why one manager would not say the same thing as another.

In the meantime, try decaf!

 

[rinkwide]

...If I get the chance, I'll post the link tomorrow...

The item number would suffice as well (I could be wrong but I have this feeling you're going to be extremely busy tomorrow).

 

[mushpurple]

No matter what manager said...it does not mean that it is reality. How many times have we been given the wrong answer from Disney on one subject or another?

 

[paults]

this is getting good

 

[TCPluto]

(I could be wrong but I have this feeling you're going to be extremely busy tomorrow).

I'm confident you are correct.

I think the OP is the stuff of urban legend. DVC legend in this case...

 

[Y-ASK]

I guess I'm just old school, I thought points were the owners to do with as they see fit. If they choose to book all peak weeks for there own use at 11 months, that is there business. I don't see it being any different than booking them and then renting them.

I'd have to disagree with you there. I'm also a renter of over bought points, but I don't think you should be able to "rent" a reservation. I'm all for anyone being able to rent your points as you wish (except commerical renting) but I would prefer to see it setup so that a potential renter would need to contact you 1st and then you make the reservation after everyone has agreed to terms. I also have thoughts on someone who can't go at the last minute and how to handle that but don't feel it necessary to write a novel about the subject. I think TUG has a board setup called "Last Minute Rentals" that works well.

Y-ASK

 

[Jay Foster]

My goodness! I promise I will NEVER post anything like this again and I may NEVER lurk here ever again! I'm deleting the Dis from my favorites on all my computers immediately. I'm installing a virus on all my computers which will cause the hard drives to explode. I now also request that someone come over and tar and feather me. I have already called the police on myself and they assured me that they will give me 25 years in jail for the post. Can someone come over and kick my dog while we are at it? Any other punishment someone might want to inflict or is all this punishment enough?

Mushpurple,

You may be right. I don't know. I'm only relaying what the manager told me. Did the manager lie? I don't know. Is the manager uninformed? I don't know. In any event, if DVC does stuff about this, for me, I think it is a good idea to stop the commerical renters ONLY, not people who rent a few times a year which would be silly.

Here is the link on the one that was removed or canceled or hacked into by somone or maybe I hacked into ebay myself and did it, right or maybe I created the link and it really installs a virus on your computer? Again, I don't know with 110% certainty that it was removed because of my complaint, I can only relay what I know which I already did: http://cgi.ebay.com/Disney-Vacation-Boardwalk-Timeshare-Rental_

In the meantime, try decaf as I suggested.

 

[DVCconvert]

Can someone come over and kick my dog while we are at it?

Perhaps to help raise money for your bail -- you could auction this opportunity off on Ebay?!!

 

[Lewisc]

Nothing sinister, your link is incomplete. Search Ebay and you'll find people auctioning DVC vacations. One even quotes the "unofficial" policy of allowing an extra guest if the guest brings a sleeping bag and towels. I don't if the auction was pulled or you just didn't properly copy the link. NO BIG DEAL, your post gave us some interesting points to discuss.

No problem with your post.

My goodness! I promise I will NEVER post anything like this again and I may NEVER lurk here ever again! I'm deleting the Dis from my favorites on all my computers immediately. I'm installing a virus on all my computers which will cause the hard drives to explode. I now also request that someone come over and tar and feather me. I have already called the police on myself and they assured me that they will give me 25 years in jail for the post. Can someone come over and kick my dog while we are at it? Any other punishment someone might want to inflict or is all this punishment enough?

Mushpurple,

You may be right. I don't know. I'm only relaying what the manager told me. Did the manager lie? I don't know. Is the manager uninformed? I don't know. In any event, if DVC does stuff about this, for me, I think it is a good idea to stop the commerical renters ONLY, not people who rent a few times a year which would be silly.

Here is the link on the one that was removed or canceled or hacked into by somone or maybe I hacked into ebay myself and did it, right or maybe I created the link and it really installs a virus on your computer? Again, I don't know with 110% certainty that it was removed because of my complaint, I can only relay what I know which I already did: http://cgi.ebay.com/Disney-Vacation-Boardwalk-Timeshare-Rental_

In the meantime, try decaf as I suggested.

 

[dianeschlicht]

I checked today with a number of different search criteria, and I only found one studio rental from BCV that was worded strangly. I couldn't find ANY other DVC rentals of any kind.