Does ANYONE believe Iran?

[#1MMFan]

Whilst I appreciate most Americans would stand by and also agree to help Britain if she so requested it, I certainly hope that is a last resort. There is a definite culture difference between our two countries, notably how trigger-happy people are.

 

[momof2inPA]

Whilst I appreciate most Americans would stand by and also agree to help Britain if she so requested it, I certainly hope that is a last resort. There is a definite culture difference between our two countries, notably how trigger-happy people are.

I don't think it's a difference in the citizens of the country, but those in power currently. Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy.

 

[dcentity2000]

Because "words" have worked so well with Iran in the past.....

Wake up.

No excuse.



Rich::

 

[dcentity2000]

Iran have now put their plans to release one of the sailors on hiatus and is demanding an apology for the alleged intrusion.



Rich::

 

[catherine]

What I find interesting in this whole fiasco is that the first lot of coordinates that Iran gave showing where the British sailors where when the were picked up was in Iraqi waters then the Iranians changed the coordinates to show the sailors in Iranian waters.

I've just seen a news report showing Iranian citizens with signs saying that the British sailors and marines shouls be executed!!

 

[dcentity2000]

What I find interesting in this whole fiasco is that the first lot of coordinates that Iran gave showing where the British sailors where when the were picked up was in Iraqi waters then the Iranians changed the coordinates to show the sailors in Iranian waters.

I know! Ridiculous, isn't it?

I've just seen a news report showing Iranian citizens with signs saying that the British sailors and marines shouls be executed!!

Things are getting out of hand. It may come to special forces going into Iran to rescue the sailors, but I hope to hell that doesn't happen as it could lead to war and any war with Iran will be both bloody and long.



Rich::

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

I've just seen a news report showing Iranian citizens with signs saying that the British sailors and marines shouls be executed!!

I trust that even the most diabolical of Iranian leaders would know that would be a grave error.

 

[Cool-Beans]

Better to use words rather than force where possible. Less people die.
Rich::

No, more people die. As evidenced by 9/11. The Iranians were so terrified of President Reagan that they let the hostages go the day he took office. They knew what was coming if they didn't behave.

Quadaffi and his flippin "Line of Death." Preesident Reagan not only said, "Screw you and your 'Line of Death'", he went over the line and bombed the guy's flippin house. Didn't actually kill him, but got one or more of his kids...and that was that. Quadaffi has behaved himself ever since. On 9/11 he was the first to come out and say, "Not me! I'm not involved! My country supports America."

When they know that screwing with us means they will die, they don't take hostages or come and kill us. Therefore, we don't have to kill them. And NOBODY dies.

When you get weaklings like Presidents Clinton and Bush, you get war.

Great Britain is a sovereign nation. Playing superhero to the rest of the world is what got us into this stupid fabricated war in the first place.

Who knows what the US is doing behind the scenes? I don't think there are any known CIA agents on the Dis. I totally agree that we should help, if and when it is needed.

We are very close to a war with Iran as well as the action in Iraq. I don't think the English soldiers were in Iranian waters however, I also don't think we should be baited into another war sooner than absolutely necessary.

What do you want to wait for? Mushroom clouds?

 

[Cool-Beans]

I trust that even the most diabolical of Iranian leaders would know that would be a grave error.

Unless they already have their nuclear weapons and are setting themselves up to use them.

But even so, they can't get the whole country. Our country would survive and theirs would be eliminated.

 

[RadioNate]

What do you want to wait for? Mushroom clouds?

Please

I fully believe that Iran is a threat but when we go to war with them it needs to be on OUR terms not theirs. Right now in my eyes there isn't a clear and present danger to the United States. I also don't believe that we are prepaired to sustain an invasion into yet another country. These people no longer care about a policy of deterence. They are more than willing to give their lives in trade for more dead Americans.

When they commit an act against the United States, I fully expect an appropriate response from our government.

I also believe that we are likely helping Britain in a NON-PUBLIC way. I do not believe all our military and intellegence decisions need to be discussed on the evening news. If Britain asks for public action on the part of the US, I expect GWB to make available all resources necessary.

 

[dcentity2000]

No, more people die. As evidenced by 9/11. The Iranians were so terrified of President Reagan that they let the hostages go the day he took office. They knew what was coming if they didn't behave.

Quadaffi and his flippin "Line of Death." Preesident Reagan not only said, "Screw you and your 'Line of Death'", he went over the line and bombed the guy's flippin house. Didn't actually kill him, but got one or more of his kids...and that was that. Quadaffi has behaved himself ever since. On 9/11 he was the first to come out and say, "Not me! I'm not involved! My country supports America."

When they know that screwing with us means they will die, they don't take hostages or come and kill us. Therefore, we don't have to kill them. And NOBODY dies.

When you get weaklings like Presidents Clinton and Bush, you get war.

What do you want to wait for? Mushroom clouds?

And with that you lose all standing



Rich::

 

[Cool-Beans]

And with that you lose all standing



Rich::

When you are nice and try talking and pieces of paper, you end up with hostages and war. When you scare the bejezus out of them, everyone is safe and happier.

We saw both sides with President Carter and President Reagan. We're seeing how a mix (a nicey-nice war) works with President Bush. We'll see what comes next.

 

[eclectics]

When you are nice and try talking and pieces of paper, you end up with hostages and war. When you scare the bejezus out of them, everyone is safe and happier.

We saw both sides with President Carter and President Reagan. We're seeing how a mix (a nicey-nice war) works with President Bush. We'll see what comes next.

Maybe we'll nuke Tehran to the ground and you'll get your wish.

 

[DawnCt1]

And with that you lose all standing



Rich::

What standing? Reagan blew up Quadaffi's house and we haven't heard from him again. Iran mined the waters and Reagan sunk their navy. When they don't understand "words", they understand force.
Actually for a country sitting in the middle of "oil nirvana", they have one gas refinery. Establish a complete naval blockade, don't let anything in or out and bring their economy to a halt. The Brits will be home before you know it. Blair needs to put his foot down instead of trekking to the worthless UN.

 

[Cool-Beans]

What standing?

I'm not sure what "standing" I lost, but I never knew I had it, so it won't be missed.

 

[DawnCt1]

I'm not sure what "standing" I lost, but I never knew I had it, so it won't be missed.

I have said it before, but I am AMAZED that anyone would believe Iran. It boggles my mind.

 

[mefordis]

I'm absolutly serious. They are not Americans there for I don't think a public response from GWB or an action by the American military is needed. I'm ALL for helping but I don't think we need to be involved in another nations issues without a direct request from that nation.

Why is that so horrible???

 

[Cool-Beans]

I have said it before, but I am AMAZED that anyone would believe Iran. It boggles my mind.

Not me. I thought there would be a lot of people supporting Iran and finding some way to pin the fact that they took hostages on President Bush and Tony Blair.

So, I'm a little heartened by the results of the poll. But I do wonder if it would have been different had they taken American hostages.

 

[#1MMFan]

Whilst I can understand why folks would suggest going in with force, or the "actions speak louder than words" approach, I think there has to be an initial time for talks. The world has to see that the UK is a not an irrational nation prone to declaring war or other similar acts of violence without due consideration and without exhausting more diplomatic options first. It doesn't matter how "undiplomatic" the country we are dealing with is. If we don't engage in talks then the rest of the world (save of course the US) thinks that we are war-mongers, or extremely arrogant at the very least.
Of course, don't forget that if Iran had those nuclear weapons already developed, they would take a heck of a shorter time to reach Britain than they would the US. Even though we have a very sophisticated missile detection system, and an extremely effective millitary, both would have to kick in lot faster than they would for the US.

 

[LakeAriel]

What standing? Reagan blew up Quadaffi's house and we haven't heard from him again. Iran mined the waters and Reagan sunk their navy. When they don't understand "words", they understand force.
Actually for a country sitting in the middle of "oil nirvana", they have one gas refinery. Establish a complete naval blockade, don't let anything in or out and bring their economy to a halt. The Brits will be home before you know it. Blair needs to put his foot down instead of trekking to the worthless UN.

Aren't you the slightest bit concerned your sons will be off to Iran? You did say two of them were signing up..that was about a year ago, so I guess they are in Iraq now? Just wondering since diplomacy is so against your philosophy. I would be a wreck if I were you.