Disney to cancel FPs if room is cancelled

[gwynne]

Wow i missed a lot not visiting the DIS for 24 hours!

So sorry if this has been covered... when are they doing this for ADRs I can’t even get our number 1 reservation at 180+7 for 11 people are anytime. Rather annoying...

Maybe try making two ressies, 6 + 6 online (use an additional mde)
Or, calling can help, too.
Sometimes the reservations aren't loaded yet...that has happened to me a couple of times.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

 

[siren0119]

Wow i missed a lot not visiting the DIS for 24 hours!

So sorry if this has been covered... when are they doing this for ADRs I can’t even get our number 1 reservation at 180+7 for 11 people are anytime. Rather annoying...

As far as I know ADR's have been this way for Split stays for a while. Your issue is probably more related to the size of your party - try breaking it up into two smaller reservations and try for the same approximate time frame. If you show up together and just request everyone is seated near each other, they will try and accommodate and seat you all at the same time.

 

[NJlauren]

Maybe try making two ressies, 6 + 6 online (use an additional mde)
Or, calling can help, too.
Sometimes the reservations aren't loaded yet...that has happened to me a couple of times.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

This is what we did, still find it annoying, and even splitting it times are very limited for the new meal at Artist point.

As far as I know ADR's have been this way for Split stays for a while. Your issue is probably more related to the size of your party - try breaking it up into two smaller reservations and try for the same approximate time frame. If you show up together and just request everyone is seated near each other, they will try and accommodate and seat you all at the same time.

I mean the leading reservation, when will they crack down on that for ADRs, we did split it, but it’s still rather annoying. Even with splitting it times are extremely limited.

 

[siren0119]

This is what we did, still find it annoying, and even splitting it times are very limited for the new meal at Artist point.



I mean the leading reservation, when will they crack down on that for ADRs, we did split it, but it’s still rather annoying. Even with splitting it times are extremely limited.

Ah gotcha. They definitely don't make it easy!!!! I wonder if eventually they'll eliminate ALL ability to book FP/ADR's on a rolling basis. That would SUCK but nothing would surprise me at this point.

 

[NJlauren]

Ah gotcha. They definitely don't make it easy!!!! I wonder if eventually they'll eliminate ALL ability to book FP/ADR's on a rolling basis. That would SUCK but nothing would surprise me at this point.

I doubt they will take away the length of stay. It’s that if I booked 3/4 extra days then changed my reservation I could probably have gotten what I wanted.

Just annoying, I likethe crack down of loop holes, makes it easier for the rest of us. That’s just my opinion.

 

[PrincessWithABlaster]

This is what we did, still find it annoying, and even splitting it times are very limited for the new meal at Artist point.

It got a lot of good reviews from bloggers so it's not surprising (every day guest reviews have been pretty mixed).

 

[guerns17]

All split stay fastpasses were still around this morning. That would have been 48 hrs since my overarching Resort cancellation plus over night. So it does seem if you have split stay you need fastpasses for you can book a temporary resort reservation for the entire split stay length and then cancel after the fastpasses are made. The system seems to recognize the split stay resort reservations as a place holder for those fastpasses.

 

[jhoannam]

All split stay fastpasses were still around this morning. That would have been 48 hrs since my overarching Resort cancellation plus over night. So it does seem if you have split stay you need fastpasses for you can book a temporary resort reservation for the entire split stay length and then cancel after the fastpasses are made. The system seems to recognize the split stay resort reservations as a place holder for those fastpasses.

Thanks for testing! Now I wonder how long it will take to cancel the FPs once you cancel all the reservations.

 

[intertile]

My God, I just finally caught up with this thread. It amazes me how Disney IT makes something so simple to rectify, so complicated. The site coding could have stayed as it was, all you had to do was make any changes to any reservations within 60 days have to go through a human. It's very simple for a CM to realize if someone is cancelling a reservation for purposes of gaming Fp or staying offsite, etc. This way you wouldn't have to penalize legit onsite stays, and people playing within the rules. I'm sure some people would have still have gotten away with some shenanigans, but it would have taken care of most of the cheating.

 

[NJlauren]

It got a lot of good reviews from bloggers and such so it's not surprising (every day guest reviews have been pretty mixed).

Agreed but it’s still insane, I find it hard to believe at 180+7 for 4 people 5pm and 8pm are the only options, is every on site guest eating there? I mean I guess it’s possible...

 

[otten]

Agreed but it’s still insane, I find it hard to believe at 180+7 for 4 people 5pm and 8pm are the only options, is every on site guest eating there? I mean I guess it’s possible...

We booked it for 4 people at 7pm with no trouble at all at 180 days plus 1 but that was before reviews started coming out about it. Once the reviews started it got much harder to get.

 

[Runnsally]

My God, I just finally caught up with this thread. It amazes me how Disney IT makes something so simple to rectify, so complicated. The site coding could have stayed as it was, all you had to do was make any changes to any reservations within 60 days have to go through a human. It's very simple for a CM to realize if someone is cancelling a reservation for purposes of gaming Fp or staying offsite, etc. This way you wouldn't have to penalize legit onsite stays, and people playing within the rules. I'm sure some people would have still have gotten away with some shenanigans, but it would have taken care of most of the cheating.

No way disney customer service would want to create that friction between a guest and cast member. Also, would be a big expense in additional person power to field all those calls.

 

[intertile]

No way disney customer service would want to create that friction between a guest and cast member. Also, would be a big expense in additional person power to field all those calls.

The phone CM's already have to give bad news to guests at times, this would be no different. I really don't think you would get that many more phone calls. As soon as the loophole users realize that the jig is up, you would mainly have people shortening there stay by a day or so. Not that many people adjust there stay within 60 days due to the constraints the airlines put on them. In essense I don't think you'd have that much more of an uptick in calls over time...perhaps initially as people started getting caught with lead in reservations.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

All split stay fastpasses were still around this morning. That would have been 48 hrs since my overarching Resort cancellation plus over night. So it does seem if you have split stay you need fastpasses for you can book a temporary resort reservation for the entire split stay length and then cancel after the fastpasses are made. The system seems to recognize the split stay resort reservations as a place holder for those fastpasses.

so if I understand this correctly, and this is how it winds up functioning in the end (meaning, no further updates from Disney) that means the end result is:

- The book a room, schedule your FP at 60 days, and cancel that room loophole no longer will work
- People with legit split stays are now negatively impacted
- People that are cool with leveraging the leading days loopholes still can, just the mechanics are different

Is that about right?

 

[adam.adbe]

So I can only see two ways any of this makes sense:

a) Disney IT are just as dysfunctional as ever
b) This is actually just a transition to another policy (differing FP windows for Deluxes and non-deluxes)

That latter scenario makes a lot of sense in-as-much-as with SW online a lot of people would pay Deluxe prices to get a real crack at both SW FPs for their stay, and split stays would become much more murky if resort hopping would also switch the benefits - as a two day Deluxe plus three day mod would previously be FP windowed the same as a five day Deluxe stay.

Occam's razor points to Disney IT though. :-/

I'm annoyed, I was actually planning to split-stay for our next trip, because while I love FQ, my wife has always been curious about AK/WL.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

The phone CM's already have to give bad news to guests at times, this would be no different. I really don't think you would get that many more phone calls. As soon as the loophole users realize that the jig is up, you would mainly have people shortening there stay by a day or so. Not that many people adjust there stay within 60 days due to the constraints the airlines put on them. In essense I don't think you'd have that much more of an uptick in calls over time...perhaps initially as people started getting caught with lead in reservations.

As someone who worked in a call center...no way would I wish more work upon them lol.

 

[guerns17]

Thanks for testing! Now I wonder how long it will take to cancel the FPs once you cancel all the reservations.

As of now, even though I canceled the rooms. The room reservations and fastpasses are still on my account. When I cancelled the first overarching reservation that came off my account right away. Not sure what’s going on. If the fastpasses don’t come off soon I’ll go and remove them manually.
EDIT:Resort reservations are now off my account. I’ll report when fastpasses are gone. I’m guessing by Wednesday?

 

[BridgetBordeaux]

Tanget issue- if you have a FP opening up soon, check MDE. There are still reports of booking windows opening up early. YMMV

edit: the system is glitchy. Does not hurt to try several times a day.

 

[Gentry2004]

so if I understand this correctly, and this is how it winds up functioning in the end (meaning, no further updates from Disney) that means the end result is:

- The book a room, schedule your FP at 60 days, and cancel that room loophole no longer will work
- People with legit split stays are now negatively impacted
- People that are cool with leveraging the leading days loopholes still can, just the mechanics are different

Is that about right?

This is my understanding of the changes.

 

[dreamit]

so if I understand this correctly, and this is how it winds up functioning in the end (meaning, no further updates from Disney) that means the end result is:

- The book a room, schedule your FP at 60 days, and cancel that room loophole no longer will work
- People with legit split stays are now negatively impacted
- People that are cool with leveraging the leading days loopholes still can, just the mechanics are different

Is that about right?

I'm not sure that this part is confirmed true. I think it's still unknown what happens if someone has a split stay booked along with a simultaneous, continuous reservation and then cancels both the overarching, continuous reservation and the first (leading) reservation on their split stay. The testing that I've noted in this thread is where the days of the split stay match the days on the canceled, continuous reservation.