Something you might want to consider is do you want to trade out resale CCV for direct CCV and still have two “MK” resorts. Would you rather hold onto CCV until a resort comes along that may be more advantageous in terms of a separate location to own?I’ll move us back, I am struggling, unnecessarily probably, with this. We own 150 points direct at Poly and 100 points resale at CCV. Love both those resorts and happy with the total number of points we have, at the moment, but like everyone else probably could use a bit more, but certain a would like not a must have.
The part I struggle with is we really do enjoy using our points at other resorts and I don’t like the idea of being locked out of new resorts going forward. In doing some rough back of the napkin math, it would cost me about $10,000 to sell my current CCV contract and buy direct for the same 100 points using the current incentive. The only reason I’m considering it is the current incentive at CCV combined with possible price increases in the future.
Am I crazy to even consider it? I can afford it, but it wasn’t on my 2026 bingo card for sure, and ideally would like to not spend it considering we just bought direct at the Poly last year (paid in full).
My other thought is that if the new resorts coming out are nice, we could always keep the 2 resorts we have now and look at buying 100 direct at one of the new resorts, like lakeshore lodge.
I am thinking back to 2016 when we did our first tour but weren’t in a position back then to afford something like DVC and the amount we would have saved then if we were able to buy back then vs now. Another thing that is telling me to sit and wait is we have only been owners for 2 years. So really, still in the honeymoon phase. I don’t want to “load up” now and get too much too fast.
Thanks as always for your insights!
My thought is wait until LSL goes on sale since you dont need them now.I’ll move us back, I am struggling, unnecessarily probably, with this. We own 150 points direct at Poly and 100 points resale at CCV. Love both those resorts and happy with the total number of points we have, at the moment, but like everyone else probably could use a bit more, but certain a would like not a must have.
The part I struggle with is we really do enjoy using our points at other resorts and I don’t like the idea of being locked out of new resorts going forward. In doing some rough back of the napkin math, it would cost me about $10,000 to sell my current CCV contract and buy direct for the same 100 points using the current incentive. The only reason I’m considering it is the current incentive at CCV combined with possible price increases in the future.
Am I crazy to even consider it? I can afford it, but it wasn’t on my 2026 bingo card for sure, and ideally would like to not spend it considering we just bought direct at the Poly last year (paid in full).
My other thought is that if the new resorts coming out are nice, we could always keep the 2 resorts we have now and look at buying 100 direct at one of the new resorts, like lakeshore lodge.
I am thinking back to 2016 when we did our first tour but weren’t in a position back then to afford something like DVC and the amount we would have saved then if we were able to buy back then vs now. Another thing that is telling me to sit and wait is we have only been owners for 2 years. So really, still in the honeymoon phase. I don’t want to “load up” now and get too much too fast.
Thanks as always for your insights!
They’re referring about selling their contract and buy the same amount of points direct. It’ll be $10k more than what they can sell their current one.It costs $10,000 to sell a contract?
Ah got it, I was like im never selling thenThey’re referring about selling their contract and buy the same amount of points direct. It’ll be $10k more than what they can sell their current one.
As a CCV lover and a person who likes direct points, I wouldn’t do that. You could make a case for a new contract if you were adding, but replacing your current one isn’t a good move. That contract will have access to most resorts for a while.I’ll move us back, I am struggling, unnecessarily probably, with this. We own 150 points direct at Poly and 100 points resale at CCV. Love both those resorts and happy with the total number of points we have, at the moment, but like everyone else probably could use a bit more, but certain a would like not a must have.
The part I struggle with is we really do enjoy using our points at other resorts and I don’t like the idea of being locked out of new resorts going forward. In doing some rough back of the napkin math, it would cost me about $10,000 to sell my current CCV contract and buy direct for the same 100 points using the current incentive. The only reason I’m considering it is the current incentive at CCV combined with possible price increases in the future.
Am I crazy to even consider it? I can afford it, but it wasn’t on my 2026 bingo card for sure, and ideally would like to not spend it considering we just bought direct at the Poly last year (paid in full).
My other thought is that if the new resorts coming out are nice, we could always keep the 2 resorts we have now and look at buying 100 direct at one of the new resorts, like lakeshore lodge.
I am thinking back to 2016 when we did our first tour but weren’t in a position back then to afford something like DVC and the amount we would have saved then if we were able to buy back then vs now. Another thing that is telling me to sit and wait is we have only been owners for 2 years. So really, still in the honeymoon phase. I don’t want to “load up” now and get too much too fast.
Thanks as always for your insights!
I don't think you're crazy at all. I'm considering doing the same. Note that the sweet spot for the current CCV sale is 150 points - incentives go from $18/point at 100 points, $22/point at 125 points, and $26/point at 150 points. Nothing higher after that. Right now, the incentives on 150 Poly points and 150 CCV points work out to almost the same price. And don't forget that a CCV contract has 2 more years on it than a Poly contract. That said, the "drive off the lot" depreciation with a CCV contract is certainly more than PVB, so at's not as "risk-free" as a PVB points purchase - but, if these points are to keep for the long-term, that shouldn't matter much.I’ll move us back, I am struggling, unnecessarily probably, with this. We own 150 points direct at Poly and 100 points resale at CCV. Love both those resorts and happy with the total number of points we have, at the moment, but like everyone else probably could use a bit more, but certain a would like not a must have.
The part I struggle with is we really do enjoy using our points at other resorts and I don’t like the idea of being locked out of new resorts going forward. In doing some rough back of the napkin math, it would cost me about $10,000 to sell my current CCV contract and buy direct for the same 100 points using the current incentive. The only reason I’m considering it is the current incentive at CCV combined with possible price increases in the future.
Am I crazy to even consider it? I can afford it, but it wasn’t on my 2026 bingo card for sure, and ideally would like to not spend it considering we just bought direct at the Poly last year (paid in full).
My other thought is that if the new resorts coming out are nice, we could always keep the 2 resorts we have now and look at buying 100 direct at one of the new resorts, like lakeshore lodge.
I am thinking back to 2016 when we did our first tour but weren’t in a position back then to afford something like DVC and the amount we would have saved then if we were able to buy back then vs now. Another thing that is telling me to sit and wait is we have only been owners for 2 years. So really, still in the honeymoon phase. I don’t want to “load up” now and get too much too fast.
Thanks as always for your insights!
Or, better yet, keep the CCV resale contract AND buy 150 direct CCV pointsAs a CCV lover and a person who likes direct points, I wouldn’t do that. You could make a case for a new contract if you were adding, but replacing your current one isn’t a good move. That contract will have access to most resorts for a while.
Now we're talking! I do wish they were offering just something a little extra for add-ons above the 150 point level. It would really probably push me to do more.And don't forget that LSL (and beyond) will be restricted points.
I'm really considering whether to wash all my ccv pts (350) while picking up 50 more (was going to buy another 50 pts later this year at VGF, not because we need more VGF in particular, but it's our only direct bucket). Alternative I'm looking at is 200 pts ccv and just wash 100 of them.
Agreed. I'm tempted to just wash 100 now while adding 100 new direct. Then in whenever # of years wash the other half in a two step (knowing it could be many years). Increasing those tiered incentives would make this easier.Now we're talking! I do wish they were offering just something a little extra for add-ons above the 150 point level. It would really probably push me to do more.
We are looking at an add on at CCV too. We are all direct at VGF, PVB and CCV and do not need to wash any points but alternate between Poly Tower and CCV every other Thanksgiving and want to move to a 2bdrm at CCV after our DD had her own bathroom in a 1bdrm at the Poly Tower this Thanksgiving.I’ll move us back, I am struggling, unnecessarily probably, with this. We own 150 points direct at Poly and 100 points resale at CCV. Love both those resorts and happy with the total number of points we have, at the moment, but like everyone else probably could use a bit more, but certain a would like not a must have.
The part I struggle with is we really do enjoy using our points at other resorts and I don’t like the idea of being locked out of new resorts going forward. In doing some rough back of the napkin math, it would cost me about $10,000 to sell my current CCV contract and buy direct for the same 100 points using the current incentive. The only reason I’m considering it is the current incentive at CCV combined with possible price increases in the future.
Am I crazy to even consider it? I can afford it, but it wasn’t on my 2026 bingo card for sure, and ideally would like to not spend it considering we just bought direct at the Poly last year (paid in full).
My other thought is that if the new resorts coming out are nice, we could always keep the 2 resorts we have now and look at buying 100 direct at one of the new resorts, like lakeshore lodge.
I am thinking back to 2016 when we did our first tour but weren’t in a position back then to afford something like DVC and the amount we would have saved then if we were able to buy back then vs now. Another thing that is telling me to sit and wait is we have only been owners for 2 years. So really, still in the honeymoon phase. I don’t want to “load up” now and get too much too fast.
Thanks as always for your insights!
If you are going to spend $10K just to wash resale to direct CCV... maybe just buy 50 direct points at CCV instead? That is $12750 and at least you get 50 more points than you currently have. There are no incentives at 50 points, so it's not a deal or anything.The part I struggle with is we really do enjoy using our points at other resorts and I don’t like the idea of being locked out of new resorts going forward. In doing some rough back of the napkin math, it would cost me about $10,000 to sell my current CCV contract and buy direct for the same 100 points using the current incentive. The only reason I’m considering it is the current incentive at CCV combined with possible price increases in the future.
I think it’s only a matter of time before we see a fee per point to use restricted points at one of the restricted resorts. Why wash them all for a one time payment when you can have restricted members continually paying a fee to access the restricted resort. Especially, I don’t think they’d allow you to then use those points at all restricted resorts, just the one you selected.Just tossing this out there - what I see DVD doing is pulling levers to increase revenue (hello, $500 transfer fee) that are similar to the ways that other timeshares increase revenue. Beyond the transfer fee, another way that timeshares boost revenue is to offer a conversion or upgrade fee to "turn" resale points into direct points. The delta between resale and direct is about $100 per point, give or take (less on Poly, more on BLT). But if DVD were to split the difference and offer the option (even a one-time, limited opportunity option) to turn resale points into direct points for a conversion fee of $50 per point, I bet they'd make many, many millions very quickly. Marriott club has something like this. So it seems that DVD already has their eyes on other timeshare revenue structures--so maybe this might actually happen.
Because DVD could sell the conversion fee multiple times, in most cases, for the same points. At least according to Fidelity (https://www.fidelityrealestate.com/blog/dvc-resale-restrictions/?utm_source=chatgpt.com) most owners tend to keep a DVC contract between five and fifteen years. (Another broker said between seven and ten years.). So let's say 10 years on average. So here's a possible pattern. Sell points once direct at full price. Resale at ten years with the possibility of a $50pp upgrade. Resale at twenty years. Resale at thirty years. And final resale at forty years (admittedly, an upgrade with ten years left on a contract might not be common, but at twenty years left, I bet it would be somewhat frequent). It's been my experience that owners tend to believe they will keep a contract for life--but for the most part this doesn't usually happen. (Again, the group here is a likely exception). So most owners will likely over value the benefit of the $50pp conversion without factoring in how long most owners actually keep a contract. And DVD, I think, would make more money this way than with a per use fee.Why wash them all for a one time payment when you can have restricted members continually paying a fee to access the restricted resort.
I believe you are overestimating the number of resales a bit. Not sure what source fidelity is using but the numbers usually mentioned here only refer to people who are actually selling (so those who sell, do so after 5-10, 7-10 years). Those people, who never sell, are not counted for the average, making it appear much lower.Because DVD could sell the conversion fee multiple times, in most cases, for the same points. At least according to Fidelity (https://www.fidelityrealestate.com/blog/dvc-resale-restrictions/?utm_source=chatgpt.com) most owners tend to keep a DVC contract between five and fifteen years. (Another broker said between seven and ten years.). So let's say 10 years on average. So here's a possible pattern. Sell points once direct at full price. Resale at ten years with the possibility of a $50pp upgrade. Resale at twenty years. Resale at thirty years. And final resale at forty years (admittedly, an upgrade with ten years left on a contract might not be common, but at twenty years left, I bet it would be somewhat frequent). It's been my experience that owners tend to believe they will keep a contract for life--but for the most part this doesn't usually happen. (Again, the group here is a likely exception). So most owners will likely over value the benefit of the $50pp conversion without factoring in how long most owners actually keep a contract. And DVD, I think, would make more money this way than with a per use fee.
That could be true--as DVD is never going to release the actual numbers. I did take the number on the high end of the seven to ten year estimate. But even with this, I'm pretty sure the average contract has the potential to have a "conversion" fee attached to it multiple times over its life. The sheer volume of resale contracts each year suggests that there's substantial turnover in ownership. There are the lifelong Disney fans (many of whom may keep contracts until they end), but mostly what I see are families with younger children buying DVC contracts...and then renting those points when those same kids are in the latter part of high school....and then selling those points when they realize that there's not going to be the same type of yearly or bi-yearly large family trip to florida after those kids graduate college. I'm just saying that a significant conversion fee would, as I see it, likely yield more revenue over time than one-time per use fees.I believe you are overestimating the number of resales a bit. Not sure what source fidelity is using but the numbers usually mentioned here only refer to people who are actually selling (so those who sell, do so after 5-10, 7-10 years). Those people, who never sell, are not counted for the average, making it appear much lower.