Disney News, Discussion & an Element of Fun - 2024 Edition

now onsite people have to work through the offsite people and there's a second checkpoint, versus just enter correct gate and go!

I can see losing time to wade through the offdsite people standing at the check site

I checked in at Galaxy’s Edge/Grand Avenue, and the congestion there was minor. CMs were directing offsite guests to wait to the side. The checkpoint itself was quick and easy. It also seemed easier to enter the front gates with more entry tapstyles open.

Hadn’t read about this change before today so it did catch me a bit by surprise. Now if only they would bring back the Citizens of Hollywood. That’s the pre-pandemic thing I miss the most.
 
How is it a disadvantage? Onsite guests still get past the checkpoints prior to park opening, and offsite guests still do not. The offsite guests don't also have to dribble through the turnstiles at park open, so it is less of an advantage than it was before, but that's not at all the same.

This is also how the other three parks worked the last time I was there, so it is consistent.
Yes, that's why ppl (resort guests) have much preferred the way DHS did it. It gives them a greater advantage with the short 30 mins. of extra time. Now at regular park open more ppl will already be inside the park and. at the entrance of whatever land they prefer to start at as opposed to trickling in. Like I said at least we can still go to the actual line, but it is less appealing to your onsite guest than the other way. We have always been hoping the other parks will move to DHSs way of doing rope dropping.
How is it a disadvantage? Onsite guests still get past the checkpoints prior to park opening, and offsite guests still do not. The offsite guests don't also have to dribble through the turnstiles at park open, so it is less of an advantage than it was before, but that's not at all the same.

This is also how the other three parks worked the last time I was there, so it is consistent.
 

My Royal Dream (Bibbidi Bobbedi Boutique) in Disneyland Paris now available for all guests

And some rants about prices.

As of 22 October all Disneyland Paris guests can book a reservation for the prince(ss) makeovers at the Disneyland Hotel. Prices start of 95 euro and need to be booked through the app.

Originally this experience was only available for guests staying at the Disneyland Hotel.
The Disneyland Hotel had several experiences only available for guests staying there. After the reopening of the long refurbishments, it wasn't even possible to visit. Then you needed a reservation. Now it's open for all. And the character buffet, The Royal Banquet, is available now for all guests too. Royal Banquet is (in my opinion) the best buffet / meal onsite, but it's not wrth 3 figures per adult.

The only exclusive perks left are the prince & princess dinner at Table de Lumière and the princess meet & greets.
My guess within a year Table de Lumière will be available for all guests as well. When you see pictures of people having dinner here, there are always loads of empty tables in the back.

And will that be enough to lure people to those very expensive rooms? In low season a room at the Disneyland Hotel is around 600 euro a night, which is a lot for EU to 1.800 euro a night during Christmas. That's pricing out so many people.

Also last week they have slightly raised the prices for certain restaurants. One of them is the princess restaurant in the park, Auberge de Cendrillon, raised the prices for the adult meal from 95 euro to 100 euro. My prediction is that it will get a lot easier to get a reservation there.

Disneyland Paris is now reaching the max. price point for a lot of things. Discovering that there are things people are not willing to pay for or not willing to pay that much for.
 
And the character buffet, The Royal Banquet, is available now for all guests too. Royal Banquet is (in my opinion) the best buffet / meal onsite, but it's not wrth 3 figures per adult.

The only exclusive perks left are the prince & princess dinner at Table de Lumière and the princess meet & greets.
My guess within a year Table de Lumière will be available for all guests as well. When you see pictures of people having dinner here, there are always loads of empty tables in the back.

We ate at both of those restaurants in July, and I wouldn’t book a room there to get that perk. They weren’t great. Definitely not worth the price tag, the food was mediocre and the crowds were annoying.
 
Legacy Prizes Return to Fossil Fun Games in DinoLand USA Ahead of Closure

Just when you think that a creature has gone extinct, it makes a triumphant return. For some reason, the old Chester & Hester Dino-Rama plush prizes have returned to DinoLand USA just over two months before the area will close permanently. While visiting Disney’s Animal Kingdom today, we noticed that some of the legacy versions of the plush prizes were available for guests to win.

Currently only available in small sizes, the old plush prizes can be found at all of the game locations. Most of the locations even have their own specialty plush styles based on the game theme.

Fossil Fueler & Whac-A-Packycephalosaur



Comet Crasher



Mammoth Marathon



Bronto Score



Here’s a look at the current offering of (updated) plush prizes. The current lineup of prizes was updated back in September 2020.


 
‘Mickey’s Once Upon a Christmastime Parade’ Daytime Performances for ABC Holiday Special Taping in Early November

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Walt Disney World has updated its entertainment lineup to reflect a parade change on November 9th and November 10th. On those two days, the Disney Festival of Fantasy Parade will not be performed, and it has been replaced by daytime performances of Mickey’s Once Upon a Christmastime Parade. The change is likely due to planned filming for the annual ABC holiday special.

Guests can watch Mickey’s Once Upon a Christmastime Parade at 2pm on both days.

Following the two-day adjustment, it’s back to normal with the Disney Festival of Fantasy Parade scheduled to return on November 11th.

However, daytime performances will likely return following the conclusion of Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party. Walt Disney World typically offers the Once Upon a Christmastime Parade as standard daytime entertainment during Christmas Week.
 
Seventy years ago, today: October 27, 1954

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/disneyland-abc-tv-70/

Disneyland’ on ABC: An Entertainment Inflection Point 70 Years Later​


70 years ago this Sunday, Walt Disney greeted viewers in their homes across America as the host of the first episode of Disneyland — a series later known as The Magical World of Disney, amongst other names — on ABC.

From the start, he offered viewers the opportunity to share in his “latest and greatest dream:” Disneyland, the park. For the first time, folks all over the country were able to get a tantalizing glimpse at yet another creation from Walt Disney.

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Walt Disney on the set for the first episode of Disneyland, the series, in front of a painted map of Disneyland, the park

Excavation for the park had begun only about two months prior to the broadcast, with a planned opening less than nine months away.

That initial Disneyland broadcast represents an inflection point for The Walt Disney Company — and the entire entertainment industry. It paved the way for a theme park with no antecedent, it helped reveal the potential of television for Hollywood, and formed the basis for what a modern and diversified entertainment company could look like.
This is the story of how that all came to be.

“Yesterday, Tomorrow and Fantasy”

Back one night in the summer of 1953, Walt Disney was lying sleepless in bed.

Over the years taking his daughters to fairgrounds, zoos, and outdoor attractions across the globe, Walt began dreaming up a family fun park that would outdo them all. It would be clean, imaginative, and a happy place for the whole family to “visit the worlds of yesterday, tomorrow and fantasy.”

Walt knew how innovative of a vision he had in his head, saying to the board of directors at Walt Disney Productions that “there’s nothing like it in the entire world. I know, because I’ve looked. That’s why it can be great.”

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Walt inspecting the Jungle Cruiseattraction at Disneyland

He already had a grand vision, but what was keeping him up at night was figuring out how to create such an endeavor.
Walt needed a way to not only fund the creation of the park, but to make sure that potential guests knew that it was there at all.

As insomnia was getting the best of him, an idea struck — television would be how he would create and share his dream with the world.

Reaching Fans in a Whole New Way

While it now seems matter of fact, getting into television in the early 1950s was seen as a risk for a company that was until then primarily involved in producing theatrical films.

The Disney board was concerned over adding a new field for the company, in addition to already entering the amusement park business.

However, the Disney studio had enjoyed some success earlier in the decade with a couple of TV specials, so “Walt was able to plainly see how the fruits of his studio’s creative labors could be leveraged to good — and wide — use for the mass audience that television provided,” Kevin M. Kern, regional manager for the Walt Disney Archives, said.

Walt’s argument for television was multi-pronged and proved to be prophetic for the future of the company.
“There’s a way we can get to the public,” Walt had said of TV. As Kern puts it, television would allow Walt to “create new content, promote new projects, and re-introduce a library stable of previous theatrical hits and characters all in one package. That was an enticing prospect.”

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Walt preparing to film for television

Once Walt convinced both his brother and business partner, Roy, and the Disney board to go in on the plan for the park and television, they were able to join with ABC to create an arrangement that impacted both companies immensely.

ABC would initially support Disneyland, and in exchange, Disney would provide its vast library of feature-length and short films to be aired on ABC, in addition to producing a new weekly program, Disneyland. The program would be used to give regular updates on the progress of the park, inciting what Kern calls “a sense of wonder as to what was being built in the orange groves of Anaheim.”

The result of that initial broadcast on October 27, 1954, was “wildly successful,” Kern noted, “with an audience that continued to grow over time.”

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Walt on the set of the Disneylandseries

It enabled Walt to experiment with television storytelling methods and provide “real-time” Disneyland updates on ABC, which “allowed for both entities to grow and draw in even wider audiences than before,” Kern said.

“Disney cartoons were being seen by a larger audience each than had seen them during their entire theatrical releases,” biographer Bob Thomas reflects in his seminal read, Walt Disney: An American Original. “Mickey’s status as a folk hero was guaranteed for another generation.”

For Disneyland, it helped drum up excitement to the tune of over 33,000 guests pouring through the gates on its Opening Day, July 17, 1955 (an event that was also broadcast live on ABC).

Success on ABC would continue for Disney. Davy Crockett and Zorro would prove huge hits. Disney and ABC’s partnership would also lead to another hugely influential series, the Mickey Mouse Club. We have that series “to thank for the now ubiquitous mouse ear hats we see at Disney Parks around the globe,” Kern said. “Try imagining the American pop culture landscape without an element like that, and one quickly sees the vast impact of programs such as these on both the televised fare of the era and our mass consciousness.”

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Walt Disney and the Mouseketeers on the set of “The Fourth Anniversary Show” (1957)

Disneyland Leads to a Modern Entertainment Company

On that first episode of Disneyland, Walt states “you’ll find that Disneyland the place and Disneyland the TV show are all part of the same.”

In a sense, that would come true over four decades later, when The Walt Disney Company merged with Capital Cities/ABC in 1996.

“There was a mutual respect between the entities in their approach to storytelling,” Kern explained. “Which, when fully combined, opened the door for even greater success across a plethora of platforms, from broadcast news to print, radio, film, TV, theme parks, and beyond.”

As Kern notes, even before TV or the parks or cruises or streaming services, Walt and Roy Disney felt that “the Disney name had to mean something, and that something, they always hoped, was quality.”

With quality at the center, “the Disney brothers knew that their product could feed multiple sources and venues once it was created,” Kern said. “Shorts could be re-aired on television, feature films could be serialized and spotlighted in specialty programming, film stories and characters could serve as the basis for unique theme park attractions, merchandise could support and feature any number of storytelling needs, be they books, records, comics, or the like.”

After that initial Disneyland broadcast in 1954, Disney would soon become ubiquitous across not only film and merchandise, but also television, live experiences, and more — all the while ensuring that the characters and stories from each segment would feed into one another. This strategy — that came to life 70 years ago with the debut of the Disneyland TV series — created the sort of multifaceted entertainment company that Disney is still known as today.
Kern puts it succinctly: “This understood interconnectivity is why a concept like Disneyland, and really the whole company, ended up being so successful.”
 
I checked in at Galaxy’s Edge/Grand Avenue, and the congestion there was minor. CMs were directing offsite guests to wait to the side. The checkpoint itself was quick and easy. It also seemed easier to enter the front gates with more entry tapstyles open.

Hadn’t read about this change before today so it did catch me a bit by surprise. Now if only they would bring back the Citizens of Hollywood. That’s the pre-pandemic thing I miss the most.
The thing I miss the most is the Garden Tea Room (well, and the Magical Express too).
 
And resort airline checkin... and resort package deliveries... and ... and.... and... I could go on, but... I understand things change and folks visiting who never had these amenities don't misss them like we do...
I really don't understand why resort package deliveries haven't come back. I'm sure I'm not the only person who has bought less because I don't want to haul it back to the hotel.
 
The thing I miss the most is the Garden Tea Room (well, and the Magical Express too).

Most definitely Magical Express! I was specifically referring to what’s still missing at HS, but there are so many more things I still wish would be brought back as well. Trying to think of the new things that might make up for them, but other than Tron and Guardians, both of which I skipped last week, I’m still coming up short.
 
Most definitely Magical Express! I was specifically referring to what’s still missing at HS, but there are so many more things I still wish would be brought back as well. Trying to think of the new things that might make up for them, but other than Tron and Guardians, both of which I skipped last week, I’m still coming up short.
The Citizens of Hollywood still have not returned and I don't think they will which is a shame because they were awesome and brought so much kinetic energy to a park that is 100% missing it.
 
HS originally was a working studio and celebrated the movie and television industries... They used to do actual animation tours where the artisits worked behind glass windows, and there were backlots, sound studios and other "movie making" attractions. They really have gone in a different directions now, and gotten away from the Hollywood movie business vibe... more meet and greets with characters for photos, etc. I miss those CoH performers too! They really added a lot to the park. And every act was different. They were very talented.
 
The Citizens of Hollywood still have not returned and I don't think they will which is a shame because they were awesome and brought so much kinetic energy to a park that is 100% missing it.

HS is sorely lacking that smaller fill-in type entertainment that keeps guests happy in between shows and major rides. One can only watch Muppets 3D and browse through the shops so many times. When I rope-dropped last week I ended up with several stretches of boring empty time that should have been filled with atmospheric entertainment.
 
I really don't understand why resort package deliveries haven't come back. I'm sure I'm not the only person who has bought less because I don't want to haul it back to the hotel.
My guess is that Disney has done the math, and the amount of sales they're losing because of the lack of resort delivery is less than the amount they'd have to pay for staffing resort delivery (from what I've been told from CMs who worked it, it took a lot of people to get everything sorted and delivered to the right places). I really thought it would come back when the College Program first came back post-COVID, but it seems to be another relic lost forever to history. Maybe once Dinosaur shuts down for good, we can borrow a Time Rover and bring it back from the past.
 















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