Disney Cruise Line in Austraila?

[JM_97]

Interesting video. It would not surprise me if the Wonder started to split between Alaska and Australia and one of the newer ships started to split between Bahamas/Caribbean and Mexico.

 

[CaseyCruiser]

Interesting video. It would not surprise me if the Wonder started to split between Alaska and Australia and one of the newer ships started to split between Bahamas/Caribbean and Mexico.

Interesting

 

[FightingIrishman]

Interesting indeed. Do they sail from Vancouver, California, Hawaii, or Southeast Asia to Australia? I would be love to be on one of those repositioning cruises.

 

[JM_97]

Interesting indeed. Do they sail from Vancouver, California, Hawaii, or Southeast Asia to Australia? I would be love to be on one of those repositioning cruises.

I bet the Wonder does Alaska then transfers to Hawaii then transfers to Australia. Then once it's time for the summer again, goes back in the opposite direction.

 

[DCSWO]

That is interesting. 5000 miles between Hawaii and Sydney. That's 8-10 days at sea with not much along the way. I guess they could stop in the Solomon Islands, New Caledonia or even Fiji. It would certainly give people an appreciation of how massive the Pacific Ocean truly is. Fiji is awsome by the way!

 

[Intr3pid]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but it's highly unlikely we'll see any Australian or Asian cruises for a while from Disney. At least not until all 7 ships are in the bag - and the COVID/war issues are past their peak.

The registration might simply be a way to offer AUD fares to the Australians.

That said, you needn't wait. We are heading down under this December - and really looking forward to clocking a couple of cruises along with a land trip.

 

[Husker Mike]

Maybe not all seven, but when the sixth ship comes out, Disney will need to find new routes to serve. And judging from the reaction to the Wish, I expect the Fantasy to be replaced for the week-long Caribbean sailings by either the Wish or ship #6. (They'll put the new ship on the more traditional sailings to entice people to sail that route again.)

 

[disneydreamer781]

IMO, DCL needs more of a presence in NY.

 

[JM_97]

Maybe not all seven, but when the sixth ship comes out, Disney will need to find new routes to serve. And judging from the reaction to the Wish, I expect the Fantasy to be replaced for the week-long Caribbean sailings by either the Wish or ship #6. (They'll put the new ship on the more traditional sailings to entice people to sail that route again.)

It will be interesting to see what they do with both the Magic and Fantasy. I have a feeling the Magic will slowly sail less and less in the Bahamas and Caribbean. Fantasy could either move to another FL port full time or split between FL and NY.

 

[Kwami]

IMO, DCL needs more of a presence in NY.

But why? Most cruises from NY go to Bermuda, which will get boring pretty quickly. You can throw in a few New England / Canada cruises in the fall or a few longer cruises down to Castaway Cay or something, I guess, but I'm still not seeing much variety from NY.

 

[disneydreamer781]

But why? Most cruises from NY go to Bermuda, which will get boring pretty quickly. You can throw in a few New England / Canada cruises in the fall or a few longer cruises down to Castaway Cay or something, I guess, but I'm still not seeing much variety from NY.

Well, that's your opinion. There are destinations other than Bermuda and Canada they could sail to from NY. There are also places like the Bahamas and the Caribbean. There is a east coast market that Disney is missing out on.

 

[Kwami]

Well, that's your opinion. There are destinations other than Bermuda and Canada they could sail to from NY. There are also places like the Bahamas and the Caribbean. There is a east coast market that Disney is missing out on.

I don't think so. For most of the east coast, it's easier to get to Port Canaveral than to the pier in Manhattan, and cheaper, too. And, NY is far from the Caribbean. The repositioning cruise in October has three sea days (and a stop in Bermuda) before it gets to Antigua. Caribbean cruises from NY (with Disney's ships) would have to be quite a bit longer than cruises from Port Canaveral, which would limit their appeal because of work, school, and cost considerations. Or, they would have to visit fewer ports. Disney doesn't visit some of the more northern destinations in the Caribbean. That could change, but I don't see them adding DR or Haiti to the schedule any time soon.

 

[JM_97]

I don't think so. For most of the east coast, it's easier to get to Port Canaveral than to the pier in Manhattan, and cheaper, too. And, NY is far from the Caribbean. The repositioning cruise in October has three sea days (and a stop in Bermuda) before it gets to Antigua. Caribbean cruises from NY (with Disney's ships) would have to be quite a bit longer than cruises from Port Canaveral, which would limit their appeal because of work, school, and cost considerations. Or, they would have to visit fewer ports. Disney doesn't visit some of the more northern destinations in the Caribbean. That could change, but I don't see them adding DR or Haiti to the schedule any time soon.

I mean you could do 7 night Bahamas cruises but I don't think that makes a whole lot of sense to do those too often if you have Bahamas cruises out of PC AND Miami at the same time now. It would have to be Bermuda mostly, which is a common destination out of NYC. Repetitive, sure, but the Fantasy has always had a repetitive schedule. It generally does East/West Caribbean non-stop.

If you go that route it would have to be 7 night Bermuda cruises. Throw in a few 7 night Bahamas for good measure and then maybe a rare long cruise to the Caribbean. The Fantasy might be too big to do those NE/Canada cruises that the Magic used to do.

 

[Royal Consort]

The registration might simply be a way to offer AUD fares to the Australians.

It's not. There are not enough people who sail Disney (too far away) in Australia to bother other than a handful of uber fans. Registering for GST looks explicitly like offering cruise itineraries within the country. Australia has a large cruise market and all of the big players cruise here. Disney is a notable exception. I think they are wanting to remedy this with their expanded fleet.

 

[KashasMom]

I don't think so. For most of the east coast, it's easier to get to Port Canaveral than to the pier in Manhattan, and cheaper, too. And, NY is far from the Caribbean. The repositioning cruise in October has three sea days (and a stop in Bermuda) before it gets to Antigua. Caribbean cruises from NY (with Disney's ships) would have to be quite a bit longer than cruises from Port Canaveral, which would limit their appeal because of work, school, and cost considerations. Or, they would have to visit fewer ports. Disney doesn't visit some of the more northern destinations in the Caribbean. That could change, but I don't see them adding DR or Haiti to the schedule any time soon.

Royal does 8 and 9 nights out of NYC (Bayonne) and they have no problem filling those big ships. And they do go to the Caribbean. I'd love to see Disney do more out of NYC.

As far as Asia and Australia - I don't see Disney going there or any other exciting places, like South America.

 

[JM_97]

Royal does 8 and 9 nights out of NYC (Bayonne) and they have no problem filling those big ships. And they do go to the Caribbean. I'd love to see Disney do more out of NYC.

As far as Asia and Australia - I don't see Disney going there or any other exciting places, like South America.

I've done Bermuda from NYC on Norwegian and had a great time. This was long before COVID but the ship was very full. Also, it's a great excuse to spend a day or two in NYC beforehand.

 

[KashasMom]

Well, that's your opinion. There are destinations other than Bermuda and Canada they could sail to from NY. There are also places like the Bahamas and the Caribbean. There is a east coast market that Disney is missing out on.

I agree. The big RC and NCL ships have no problems filling their cruises out of NYC.

 

[Intr3pid]

Australia has a large cruise market and all of the big players cruise here. Disney is a notable exception.

Disney isn't a big player. It's a niche cruise operator.

Australia's cruise market is fairly saturated as is. They are used to seeing ridiculously low fares from P&O and Carnival.

 

[Kwami]

Royal does 8 and 9 nights out of NYC (Bayonne) and they have no problem filling those big ships. And they do go to the Caribbean. I'd love to see Disney do more out of NYC.

As far as Asia and Australia - I don't see Disney going there or any other exciting places, like South America.

As far as I can tell, Royal has 3 cruises from Bayonne to the Caribbean next year. They're 9, 9, and 11 nights. One of the 9-night cruises isn't really a Caribbean cruise because it only visits two places in the Bahamas (Nassau, CocoCay) and their private resort on Haiti. The other 9-night doesn't return to Bayonne.

So, it's like I said. Disney would have to offer longer, more expensive cruises to get to the Caribbean from New York. And what for? Getting to Bayonne isn't any easier than getting to PC for most of the east coast.

 

[elsawasajedi]

IMO, DCL needs more of a presence in NY.

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