Disney Boycott?

[HauntedMansionFan]

Originally posted by Mr D
I'm surprised anybody remembers my little trip to Orlando back in january, in retrospect 4 weeks was too long and too early in the winter because after my return from the warm sunny days to my home here north of Anchorage, Alaska I found I still had at least 3-4 months more of winter, thats right, usually the last ice to thaw out on the lakes usually occurs late may and rarely even into the first week of june or so.

I agree 4 weeks is to long, if I were to go to Universal more then one day I would hang myself.

 

[Mr D]

I went to Universal for two weeks, having a GAP was immensely helpful. to this day I still thank the very cute associate at guest Services that gave it to me. It performed better than the Express pass.

 

[HauntedMansionFan]

Originally posted by Mr D
I went to Universal for two weeks,

As I stated above, I would have hung myself.

 

[Chuck S]

I have to agree with HMF, while some folks LOVE Universal, I went once, and have not returned. I just don't like it. I do usually go to Sea World Orlando every couple of years, I find that park nice in Orlando. But I could NOT spend several days there. But I do go to WDW an average of 20 days per year (thank you DVC).

 

[manning]

AV -- You remember the saying "you can fool some of the people some of the time -------". Eisner's belief is "You can fool enough of the people enough of the time to get away with it."

What the people don't realize is that there has to be a reason for change.

 

[HauntedMansionFan]

I love how when someone goes against the "hate Eisner" motto or isn't ready to pick up a torch and pickforce to raid the big bad headquarters, they are immediately labeled as "fools" or "shouldn't call themselves a Disney fan".

 

[disrailfan]

We (DW, DD'sx2 and I) plan on visiting WDW as much as possible. I look at it this way, Mike's days are numbered I suspect that when his contract is up in 2006 he will be gone!

I am not going to allow my vacations to be ruined which will only hurt the CM's of disney.

 

[mitros]

Thanks for being here AV! A lot of us appreciate what your saying.

 

[BRERALEX]

Thanks for being here AV! A lot of us appreciate what your saying.

to quote the Passion....."Amen"

 

[ohanafamily]

Wow, I am a DVC Member, They Have My Money already. I suspect Roy has more plans than getting thumb-nosed by Ei$ner. He anticipated this action, and will continue to fight.

My prespent $$$ are already there. Boycotting will hurt me. We are not going back until the end of May, Hopefully, some other things will have happened by then.

This board is seeming more and more like the Debate Board (a casual thought) It seems like rather than news we are getting a lot of self-justification and refusal to see both sides. I see What Ei$ner has done. It is true Roy Got him. It is also more than just my opinion that when Frank Wells died that Michael lost the one person who brought balance to him. It is quite sad.

I know of many good things he has done for the company, but I have also known many companies to go out of business when they start pinching pennies. JMHO

 

[LTUDawg]

Get real. I will continue to enjoy my Disney vacations and entertainment. As a shareholder and fan, why would I "cut of my nose to spite my face"?

I voted against Eisner/Mitchell, that's my right. But gees....they didn't kill anybody. The attractions and movies are still a favorite of my family and me. We will continue to enjoy them until (when and if) they are no longer enjoyable!

 

[LTUDawg]

Oh, I see, a disgruntled employee says I need to boycott. Forgive me, I will immediately!

Seriously, I think many miss the point that there are fans for even what we consider stupid. Why rug rats? Lion King 1 and 1/2? Teletubies?, Hockey?, Miller Lite?

I am a white male with kids toddler to teenage. I have learned that "family" entertainment is often targeted to others (besides me). Look at these boards! Horizons is better that Mission Space, World of Motion better than Test Track, Captian EO... well, you get my point.

In the end a CEO like Eisner is judged on EPS. Walt would have been also. The point of the vote was to remind Disney Boardmembers that Disney fans and employees have very high expectations. That point, I hope, will get across via EPS loss due to "casual fans" going to Univerasal (et al).

Until then, forgive me if I don't join up with the boycott. The thought of "Six Flags over Pensecola" scares me!

 

[BRERALEX]

Casual fans don't notice the decline of the parks over the years and the hardcore ones can.

 

[KNWVIKING]

***" Casual fans don't notice the decline of the parks over the years and the hardcore ones can." ***

So where does that put me ?

 

[BRERALEX]

I dont know you tell me lol

been having mikes hard lemonade lolol this is fun

I think what im trying to convey is calling hardcore fans casual fans cause they are going to boycott something they love is unfair.

I love disney so much and miss how good it used to be ...in my opinion and so i can understand someone being so upset with current management that they would boycott something they have love for to see it rise back to old level of creativity and originalism.

so what i was trying to say is that casual fans don't notice the all the changes that make people sick and hardcore fans do.

 

[Planogirl]

I was a hardcore fan too. I was so hardcore that my husband worried a bit that I was badly obsessed and that it would get worse. I've been many, many times and plan to go again just not as often. Is that a semi-boycott?

The odd thing is that I like Universal and even more strangely, I fail to see what Universal has to do with Disney's troubles. They must be involved somehow because the "true" fan always seems to bring them up in these threads. Often they slam Universal when someone criticizes WDW like somehow that makes Disney better. Interesting.

We are (or were) hardcore fans here. Most people aren't like this and I suspect that their opinion is what truly matters. If Disney gets the reputation of being cheap or tacky or overly-expensive or whatever, will the casual fan start to lose interest?

 

[Peter Pirate]

Planogirl, I think you have it a little backwards. I generally only use Universal in a discussion when someone else has made a previous analogy using them as the new model or something and I really don't see it happening that often around here.

For all the talk we had in years past about Disney and their competition it seems painfully obvious that Universal is not in a position to rival Disney anywhere but the periphery and this Disney accepts (irregardless of it being good or bad).

All of the IOA worshipers beat the drum on how they were so popular and last year would be 'their' year but once again it didn't happen and that lowly Animal Kingdom still drew more.

But what Universal does or doesn't do really means little in the scope of what Disney is or isn't doing and I think most of us see that.

M:S, Mickphil and (upcoming) E:E have made Disney more relevent and Universals Mummy could boost its cache as well, but Disney's real issue is at the top right now and this should work itself out soon (one way or another).

 

[Another Voice]

"Get real. I will continue to enjoy my Disney vacations and entertainment. As a shareholder and fan, why would I "cut of my nose to spite my face"?"

Then please, go enjoy your vacation.

But get real. You only are able to enjoy WDW because millions and millions of other people want to enjoy it as well. Unless you and Mr. Viking are willing to give Eisner about $10 billion each to keep the place open, perhaps you should also be concerned about what others care about.


"…whilst you losers are busy huffing and puffing and fooling yourselves into thinking you are important."

Yes, that's one of the funny thing about us colonials. We kinda think we are bloody well important when a company asks for our money.

Time after time after time Disney has demanded that we buy something – from California Adventure to merchandise-free Stores to shoddy animated garbage. And when the public refuses, the company blames its own customers. Worse, people appear on the Internet to demand we lower our standards to meet whatever effort Disney is willing to churn out – and bashing anyone trying to uphold the standards the company claims to support.

Well, that game is over. The brand monkeys aren't happy with the rotten bananas anymore. California Adventure and Disney/Studios Paris are deserted. ABC has been abandoned. No one lines up to catch the opening of Disney's latest animated feature. Even Disney noticed how bad things where – they replaced 'The Wonderful World of Disney' with 'Americas Funniest Home Videos'.

The public has spoken.

The "boycott" began when Disney stopped making products people wanted to buy.

And now it's finally reached the level that even Wall Street notices.

 

[TheWho]

If I'm going to botcott WDW because of a SOB CEO , think of all the other products/services I would have to stop using.

WDW is bigger than ME. I travel to Walt DisneyWorld, not Ei$nerWorld.

If any CM's are listening, keep up the good work, it's you people that make the place special and by the way, I'll see you in July.

Dave in NJ

 

[Planogirl]

Originally posted by Peter Pirate
Planogirl, I think you have it a little backwards. I generally only use Universal in a discussion when someone else has made a previous analogy using them as the new model or something and I really don't see it happening that often around here.

For all the talk we had in years past about Disney and their competition it seems painfully obvious that Universal is not in a position to rival Disney anywhere but the periphery and this Disney accepts (irregardless of it being good or bad).

All of the IOA worshipers beat the drum on how they were so popular and last year would be 'their' year but once again it didn't happen and that lowly Animal Kingdom still drew more.

But what Universal does or doesn't do really means little in the scope of what Disney is or isn't doing and I think most of us see that.

M:S, Mickphil and (upcoming) E:E have made Disney more relevent and Universals Mummy could boost its cache as well, but Disney's real issue is at the top right now and this should work itself out soon (one way or another).

Mr Pirate, if you look back over this thread you will see that there is some of the usual tiresome blasting of Universal. I realize that you don't do this but some do and for some reason do this in threads regarding Disney's problems or lack thereof. This is what I am referring too. I just believe, as I think you do, that Disney needs to stand on its own and should not be compared to anywhere else. After all, Disney is supposed to set the standard.