Disney Boycott?

[BRERALEX]

I said it more in reaction to

It will make the crowds much lighter when my family and I head home to the BWV for New Years Eve whilst you losers are busy huffing and puffing and fooling yourselves into thinking you are important.

then to call anyone out. I know few people on here by there SN's and personalities. It's an opinion that to me causal fans just go and are sprinkled with pixie dust and accept whatever the company spews out. To me their happy with mediocrity and to me the hardcore fans don't. They know the disney of old and of new and don't accept everything with a Disney label on it. Thats about as elaborate as i get ten minutes being awake

 

[cooldisneymom]

I am a former ASM at TDS. I had to leave because of the many changes to our operation that were no longer "Disney" or magical anymore. I had to quit while my love for Disney was still strong. It's very different being on the other side of the mouse, not bad, but different. However, boycott? Never! I will never turn my back on something that has been so special and magical to me for 30+ years and now to my family all over 1 man. Why make everyone suffer? I have a teenage daughter that would rather go to WDW that any concert, sporting event, or trip offered to her. She plays park music at her computer and is a member of many Disney community boards. All I have to do is watch the local news any night and hear how lucky I am to have a kid this good. The WDC has been a tremendous positive influence on my family and I will continue to support them because the "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.."

 

[KNWVIKING]

***" It's an opinion that to me causal fans just go and are sprinkled with pixie dust and accept whatever the company spews out. To me their happy with mediocrity"***

But you don't get to decide whats mediocre to anyone but yourself. Maybe Mr Casual and Family have only experienced their local Six Flags theme park. When they wonder into WDW for the first time are they going to say " This is okay, BUT..." ? Or are they going to be awestruck ? In '95, I was Mr Casual. I was awestruck then and I will be again in 65 days. The World may not be the Eden some of you seem to remember, but it isn't anywhere near the cesspool it's being made out to be either.

 

[crusader]

Originally posted by BRERALEX
I said it more in reaction to



then to call anyone out. I know few people on here by there SN's and personalities. It's an opinion that to me causal fans just go and are sprinkled with pixie dust and accept whatever the company spews out. To me their happy with mediocrity and to me the hardcore fans don't. They know the disney of old and of new and don't accept everything with a Disney label on it. Thats about as elaborate as i get ten minutes being awake

Thanks for replying. I don't really view even a pixie dust laden fan as casual. They're obsessed and there's nothing remotely simple about it.

Conversely, the same "obsessive" label can apply to that die-hard core loyalist who refuses to accept or tolerate even the slighest deviation from past standards.

I think many here fall somwhere in the middle. I don't analyze my experiences at a Disney resort or themepark today based on what I felt in the 70's. For one thing, I was alot younger and much less responsible. I had a carefree attitude very similar to the remarkable young adults I get to call my own today.

I certainly don't excuse my own tastes and personality in measuring any purchase or vacation experience - past, present or future.

 

[dcentity2000]

"Well hi there everybody!"

I think we should bomb the Disney stores until they give us Eisner's head on a stick dipped in bromine.



Rich::

 

[BRERALEX]

But you don't get to decide whats mediocre to anyone but yourself. Maybe Mr Casual and Family have only experienced their local Six Flags theme park. When they wonder into WDW for the first time are they going to say " This is okay, BUT..." ? Or are they going to be awestruck ? In '95, I was Mr Casual. I was awestruck then and I will be again in 65 days. The World may not be the Eden some of you seem to remember, but it isn't anywhere near the cesspool it's being made out to be either.

but dude i did write many times...in my opinion, blah blah blah, in my opinion, blah blah blah.

But you don't get to decide whats mediocre to anyone but yourself.

your right.

 

[dcentity2000]

"Well hi there everybody!"

ps. That was a joke, just in case anyone didn't spot it

Happy surfing from Simba Cub



Rich::

 

[BRERALEX]

I think we should bomb the Disney stores until they give us Eisner's head on a stick dipped in bromine.

<-dcentity2000 before he modifies it HA!!!!

The Dis education is paying off.

 

[dcentity2000]

Originally posted by BRERALEX
<-dcentity2000 before he modified it HA!!!!

Got my number there!

It's a bit of a bad habit, posting something and then editing it to make it look prettier...

I just did it with this one! I set it as Times and apparently it's a small font on Windows

Does anyone else casually proofread their own posts, or am I just being a tad too cautious about what I write?



Rich::

 

[dcentity2000]

Originally posted by BRERALEX
"I think we should bomb the Disney stores until they give us Eisner's head on a stick dipped in bromine."
<-dcentity2000 before he modified it HA!!!!

The Dis education is paying off.

That's just unsettling...



Rich::

 

[BRERALEX]

i tink is evidnt i nver pruufread lol. Im off to work i hope everyone has a disney day full of disney smiles and disney laughs!

 

[larry_poppins]

Thinking it over my choice of the word "boycott" was wrong. Perhaps Eisner's choice of "cost containment" is better. As Disney, in the last few years has told us this is the best we can do an you better like it. I have found that I have been reigning in my spending at the parks. This is not a complete boycott, but my spending has been parallelling the spending that corporate Disney has done concerning the Attractions.

The money I am no longer spending at domestic Disney can be spent at Tokyo Disney or Hawaii, etc...

 

[GBHost]

Boycotts are like government conspiracies in my opinion....They both usually take an improbable number of participants to effectively pull-off.

I would venture to guess that less than 1% of all Disney conumers (movie and park goers, etc) even know about this controversy over Eisner and the bean counters running the world's best loved entertainment conglomerate. Sure, we heard about the 43% no confidence vote on the news last week, but unless you're tuned-in to the Disfan machine, that info means little. I've been to Disneyland twice and WDW 6 or 7 times since 1972 and I've only recently showed up here in anticipation of planning my next trip in 2006. I, like most Disney consumers, would never have even dreamed that there was anything to boycott if I hadn't started reading the various fan sites (which most consumers, I'm sure, would never take the time to do).

Even if you got 75% of the regulars of these boards to participate in a boycott, you'd barely make a blip on Disney's financial radar screen....... So, if you love doing Disney, do Disney. If you don't want that creep (an opinion I've formed only in the last week or so) Eisner getting *your* hard earned dollars, then by all means, stay away.

It would be wise to stop fooling yourselves that you could make any effective attempt at a meaningful boycott and instead begin a discussion on how possibly you can affect a change in this wounded organization. How? I'm not sure....buy stock and vote, write to your congressman and the SEC and ask them how Mr. Eisner is still the CEO of the company after getting a 43% no vote or how Mr. Mitchell got a promotion to Chairman with a 24% no vote. Write letters to the company, be a pain in the a**. Certainly there are better methods than an impotent boycott. Perhaps this would make a better discussion on these boards.

 

[GBHost]

I just got an email from SaveDisney.com with a prewritten email that you can send to M. Eisner with the subject "Please step down as CEO."

I immediately added my name and mailed it off. I think following Roy and the gang will be more effective than the boycott.

 

[Another Voice]

Call it a boycott or whatever you want – the public stopped buying Disney stuff a long time ago. Sure, there may be a peak now and again like Pirates, but the public continues to stay away, avoid, boycott, avoid, and non-patronage California Adventure, the Stores, ABC, Feature Animation and Pop Century among many, many other products.

Those business failures have driven Eisner to where he is today.

The only branch he can cling to is his belief that there remains vast numbers of people who will buy anything as long as it has a Diseny® sticker on it. All he has to do is find a way to make that stuff cheaper and cheaper – and then he can watch the money roll in.

Any man who is making Bambi: The Sequel is not interested in growing his business.

There has to be a clear message sent that Eisner's "there's a sucker born every minute" attitude doesn't work anymore. The public is going to send its message through (see the latest sweeps ratings for ABC – 'Millionare' was a disaster). The only issue left is whether people are going to try and muffle to screams of the consumers.

People saying "we must support Disney no matter what" are sending the exact opposite message and so are hurting Disney by allowing The Enemy to cling on longer.

 

[freediverdude]

Please tell me he's not really making Bambi: The Sequel, and that was just a joke on your part. Please.....

 

[BRERALEX]

nope, there will be a bambi 2

Bambi: Platinum Edition scheduled for next March
March 5, 2005
Disney shareholders conference

During yesterday's annual Disney shareholders conference, it was revealed that Bambi will be next March's "Platinum Edition" DVD release. Most likely Bambi 2 will be released around the same time a the Bambi re-release.

http://www.magicalears.com/films/animation/ComingUp/Bambi2/notes.php

now what did Walt say ..something like he had no time for sequals that he'd rather use his creativity for new projects?

 

[TDC Nala]

sorry, I'm not prepared to boycott anything at WDW.

But I'll be more than happy to boycott ABC.

 

[PKS44]

Originally posted by crusader
Why can't disney sell trinkets and higher end stuff? Why can't disney produce a variety of media entertainment including critically acclaimed quality work and fun cartoons? Do you realize how many people absolutely love to buy loads and loads of stuff!! Many of them couldn't afford only quality merchandise so are you saying Disney should avoid the low end consumer market?

Because that is not what made them the success they were that made people love them in the first place...you cannot make your name as a company that never compromises on quality and then try to have two lines of merchandise-one that sticks with the old values of quality first and another that goes cheap...because consumers then no longer believe that the good stuff is good anymore...you have cheapened your brand name...and I might add you also demoralize your workforce...people who came to Disney because it meant quality and creativity are destroyed if they have to turn out garbage for "the masses." They lose the drive to make the good stuff for Disney or they leave to go make the good stuff for someone who does care...and thus you help your competition and seal your demise..this is not a new idea---it was dramatized very well in the film Executive Suite in the 1950's with William Holden which airs from time to time on Turner Classic Movies...

 

[crusader]

Here's where quality gets a bit convoluted.

Are we talking about raw materials and production costs associated with the merchandise? or

Are we talking about the films which Disney now has three production divisions to work under? or

Are we talking about the attractions and level of service and amenities within the themeparks?

This company is huge! Appearance plays a very big role in consumer products. If you see plush everywhere, you feel like the quality is cheap. I'll agree with that.

So change the display and find a better way to sell stuffed mickey's. Big deal. They're still coming from China.

If you can tell something is fake, which many adults could decipher even with the old "show" - ie, Jungle Cruise/ 20,000 leagues/ Snow White et al. that didn't lose any of the vacationers because there was so much being provided as a whole. That really hasn't changed.l

The main themepark deterrant for Disney is price driven - not quality driven.

If they restore everything and raise prices, there won't be any increase in attendance.

I'm not sure what you are really saying.