DISGUSTING! How dare the police do this...UPDATE #70!!!

[lillygator]

if they were being sarcastic why the mad face smilie?

 

[disneynutt1225]

Ok...nine lives were RUINED because they were arrested???? Sounds to me like their lives may have just been saved.

Nevermind all the other lives that may have been saved because of the arrests. Whenever I read about things like this, I think about a girl in my high school who died of a heroin overdose a few months before the end of her senior year - it was 1996 and it was written up in Seventeen, People, and a few other magazines IIRC. Such a shame when anyone does drugs, but it's even more sad when it's a child, IMO. I say good for the Narcs (who really have been around forever) for a job well done.

 

[UnderTheMistletoe]

I know I will be flamed but, I have to somewhat agree with the op. I think it is fine to send in the police dog if they want to get the drugs out of the school, but I don't think it is ok for a police officer to trick a kid into bringing the drugs to school. Almost every highschool student knows where to get drugs. The officer asked them to get it and bring it to school. It does not necessarily mean they are doing drugs or selling drugs. They may not have made a profit and just picked it up for her. It was a stupid thing to do. They will be punished for dealing drugs. They will be expelled from school. This is going on thier records. We will have to wait and see what thier punishment is, but it seems to me that they will have a severe punishment for doing this officer a "favor" Although it was a stupid favor in thier eyes it was a favor.

I am NOT flaming.

My questions to you:

1) Not every high school student knows where to get drugs. I sure as heck didn't. If you know where to get the drugs, then it's likely you or your friends have engaged in this behavior. That's still illegal. What are you feelings on this?

2) You know moral right and wrong from a young age. You also know legal right and wrong well before high school. Additionally, most middle schoolers had DARE programs. Even if someone asks you do to them a favor- even if it is a pretty woman- you know right and wrong. Don't you have to actively engage in the decision? Haven't you chosen to take the other path?

3) Armed and uniformed police officers with dogs don't do as much good as an undercover cop, in my opinion. There's almost always a leak and students know when the dogs will be coming in and clean out their lockers and cars. This also doesn't stop the dealers that deal "outside" the school. I mean this in two terms:
(a) It doesn't stop dealers who sell to not only their schoolmates, but also to others outside the school (ie, teammates, neighborhood friends, etc)
(b) It doesn't stop dealers who are too afraid or too smart to bring anything to school, but instead deal off school grounds outside of school hours. My bet is that the kids interested still know who these people are and how to go about a successful deal with them.
And what do you do about kids who are deathly afraid of dogs? I think there have actually been successful lawsuits about this recently...

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

Are there any pics of the undercover cop so I can judge if I would have been tricked while I was in HS? Just so I can be fair before I decide how I'm leaning on this issue.

 

[UnderTheMistletoe]

Are there any pics of the undercover cop so I can judge if I would have been tricked while I was in HS? Just so I can be fair before I decide how I'm leaning on this issue.

Doubtful...hence undercover

 

[AllyandJack]

I thought that they only arrested repeat offenders. So, if the cop only scored once from a student, they didn't get busted, but someone who repeatedly got drugs and seemed to be in the "business" were the ones who got arrested. The cop was there for 4 months, so I think it was a well thought out bust - not just someone who went in for a week and asked for drugs and arrested anyone who managed to get some.

 

[OhMari]

I live in a fairly small village, and my kids had a lock-down yesterday. They brought the dogs in. These kids are told numerous times this will happen.

10 years ago we had a very prominent kid from a very well liked family. He was the biggest drug seller. He was always up at our h.s. in the parking lot selling drugs. No one ever questioned this. Late one night, high on drugs, he car didn't make a curve and he died. He had a huge funeral. His parents never knew of his drug selling or drug use. They wanted to know why the school never told them or anyone else.

 

[Shugardrawers]

I know I will be flamed but, I have to somewhat agree with the op. I think it is fine to send in the police dog if they want to get the drugs out of the school, but I don't think it is ok for a police officer to trick a kid into bringing the drugs to school. Almost every highschool student knows where to get drugs. The officer asked them to get it and bring it to school. It does not necessarily mean they are doing drugs or selling drugs. They may not have made a profit and just picked it up for her. It was a stupid thing to do. They will be punished for dealing drugs. They will be expelled from school. This is going on thier records. We will have to wait and see what thier punishment is, but it seems to me that they will have a severe punishment for doing this officer a "favor" Although it was a stupid favor in thier eyes it was a favor.

No flames here. I'm actually glad someone else said what I was thinking. I know a lot of kids who would have done anything to be accepted or perceived as "cool", even if that meant assisting someone else in obtaining drugs. They may not have taken money for it and may not have had any intention of partaking but now they'd be caught up in it. Sometimes, undercover cops have been known to use peer pressure to get that bust. None of this in any way excuses the kids involved. You danced the dance, time to pay the piper. I'm just saying I could see how an otherwise innocent kid could find themselves charged with things they never thought they would do. There is a difference between helping out the cute girl who wants to get hooked up and selling the stuff. I do still think though that everyone involved needs to face some sort of charges, just some more severe than others. And I still think the OP was kidding. With 5k+ posts under their belt, they know this place well enough to know they'd be run out of town on a rail for that sort of thing.

 

[hucifer]

Are there any pics of the undercover cop so I can judge if I would have been tricked while I was in HS? Just so I can be fair before I decide how I'm leaning on this issue.

So sorry, Duckfan. You'll always have to wonder...

 

[Disney1fan2002]

THANK YOU MY FAMILY!

Some of you were on to me. I was being sarcastic. I posted this the way I did to find out of there were many parents like Janet Libby. I am NOT Janet Libby, but I want to find out her address and send her a (not so) nice letter.

I was disgusted that here we have, yet again, a parent coming to the defense of their criminal child, and it scares me, really and truly scares me that this seems to be more and more common. In my day, if a kid got in trouble with the police, they begged the police to keep them in jail, because jail was much safer than what would be waiting for them at home.

I have seen posts where some people do not agree on certain levels of punishment. Some seem like anything their kid does deserves not much of a punishment. So, I posted what I did, to see if we had any moms like Janet Libby here. At first, when I posted it, after the 1st few response, I wanted to give in then, it killed me to pretend to have that opinion. But, I told myself I would wait 2 pages of responses before I gave myself up. I left to bring my kids to CCD, and just 90 minutes later, I have to read through 5 pages! WoW! and 99% think I am crazy! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! For giving me hope, that moms like Janet Libby are few and far between. (I hope).

I did not want to use the smilie so as not to give away my research. I did try to put a quirkie sentence in there, to lighten it up, and some sharp people picked up on it. Thanks, for not all thinking I am a kook!

 

[~queenie~]

Are there any pics of the undercover cop so I can judge if I would have been tricked while I was in HS? Just so I can be fair before I decide how I'm leaning on this issue.

read this post but didn't notice you wrote right away.. should have know it was you

always good for a luagh arent ya!!

 

[WebmasterAlex]

I thought that they only arrested repeat offenders. So, if the cop only scored once from a student, they didn't get busted, but someone who repeatedly got drugs and seemed to be in the "business" were the ones who got arrested. The cop was there for 4 months, so I think it was a well thought out bust - not just someone who went in for a week and asked for drugs and arrested anyone who managed to get some.

That is 100% NOT true they do arrest first time offenders.
I sort of understand where the OP is coming from.
If the police officer went into the school, started actually investigating, digging and working her way up to the dealers that were actually bringing drugs into the school that would be a good thing. That would be a long, hard and dangerous job.

If she went in, tricked a couple of kids that were not previously selling drugs into scoring for her and then mass arresting them so we can have a big media splash, what a waste. The school isn't any safer and it was a big waste of taxpayer money.

Until that information comes out at trial, and it will, it's very hard to judge whether this was an effective police action or a suburban police department pretending to be super cops.

 

[highland3]

THANK YOU MY FAMILY!

Some of you were on to me. I was being sarcastic. I posted this the way I did to find out of there were many parents like Janet Libby. I am NOT Janet Libby, but I want to find out her address and send her a (not so) nice letter.

I was disgusted that here we have, yet again, a parent coming to the defense of their criminal child, and it scares me, really and truly scares me that this seems to be more and more common. In my day, if a kid got in trouble with the police, they begged the police to keep them in jail, because jail was much safer than what would be waiting for them at home.

I have seen posts where some people do not agree on certain levels of punishment. Some seem like anything their kid does deserves not much of a punishment. So, I posted what I did, to see if we had any moms like Janet Libby here. At first, when I posted it, after the 1st few response, I wanted to give in then, it killed me to pretend to have that opinion. But, I told myself I would wait 2 pages of responses before I gave myself up. I left to bring my kids to CCD, and just 90 minutes later, I have to read through 5 pages! WoW! and 99% think I am crazy! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! For giving me hope, that moms like Janet Libby are few and far between. (I hope).

I did not want to use the smilie so as not to give away my research. I did try to put a quirkie sentence in there, to lighten it up, and some sharp people picked up on it. Thanks, for not all thinking I am a kook!

You had me... hook, line and sinker!!!! Glad to hear your real views. Good idea on a way to guage the real sentiment on the board.

 

[Planogirl]

THANK YOU MY FAMILY!

Some of you were on to me. I was being sarcastic. I posted this the way I did to find out of there were many parents like Janet Libby. I am NOT Janet Libby, but I want to find out her address and send her a (not so) nice letter.

I was disgusted that here we have, yet again, a parent coming to the defense of their criminal child, and it scares me, really and truly scares me that this seems to be more and more common. In my day, if a kid got in trouble with the police, they begged the police to keep them in jail, because jail was much safer than what would be waiting for them at home.

I have seen posts where some people do not agree on certain levels of punishment. Some seem like anything their kid does deserves not much of a punishment. So, I posted what I did, to see if we had any moms like Janet Libby here. At first, when I posted it, after the 1st few response, I wanted to give in then, it killed me to pretend to have that opinion. But, I told myself I would wait 2 pages of responses before I gave myself up. I left to bring my kids to CCD, and just 90 minutes later, I have to read through 5 pages! WoW! and 99% think I am crazy! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! For giving me hope, that moms like Janet Libby are few and far between. (I hope).

I did not want to use the smilie so as not to give away my research. I did try to put a quirkie sentence in there, to lighten it up, and some sharp people picked up on it. Thanks, for not all thinking I am a kook!

Your original post did come across as sounding sarcastic to me even if a bit bizarre. I don't know how successful your approach was because most parents who think this is wrong probably won't say anything. I doubt that most DISers would want to possibly face the wrath of the masses.

Personally, I don't have a problem with this bit of entrapment. Drugs should not be in the schools period. The only thing I've always disliked is surprise searches unless there's cause. But that's a completely different issue.

 

[kristen821]

I am NOT flaming.

My questions to you:

1) Not every high school student knows where to get drugs. I sure as heck didn't. If you know where to get the drugs, then it's likely you or your friends have engaged in this behavior. That's still illegal. What are you feelings on this?

2) You know moral right and wrong from a young age. You also know legal right and wrong well before high school. Additionally, most middle schoolers had DARE programs. Even if someone asks you do to them a favor- even if it is a pretty woman- you know right and wrong. Don't you have to actively engage in the decision? Haven't you chosen to take the other path?

3) Armed and uniformed police officers with dogs don't do as much good as an undercover cop, in my opinion. There's almost always a leak and students know when the dogs will be coming in and clean out their lockers and cars. This also doesn't stop the dealers that deal "outside" the school. I mean this in two terms:
(a) It doesn't stop dealers who sell to not only their schoolmates, but also to others outside the school (ie, teammates, neighborhood friends, etc)
(b) It doesn't stop dealers who are too afraid or too smart to bring anything to school, but instead deal off school grounds outside of school hours. My bet is that the kids interested still know who these people are and how to go about a successful deal with them.
And what do you do about kids who are deathly afraid of dogs? I think there have actually been successful lawsuits about this recently...

I do think the kids were wrong in getting the drugs for her. It was very stupid of them, but they may not be the drug dealers. They will be punished for dealing drugs.

1. I can almost guarantee almost every student in the highschool I went to knows who to go to if they wanted some drugs. I can tell you where to go if you wanted drugs and I don't do drugs. I am mature enough to not get it for somebody if they asked, but these teenagers made a poor judgement call. Maybe for popularity or whatever thier reasons may have been.

2. I agree the kids were wrong, but I don't agree with how the police tricked them into doing something wrong. If they wanted to catch kids with drugs they can search lockers bring in dogs etc. Get the kids that have the drugs on them don't tell a kid to go get drugs then arrest them

3. If the school is really bad they can have a lockdown where everyone must stay in the classroom they are in unless escorted by a police officer. They did this at the highschool in my neighborhood.
a. That is exactly my point they aren't stopping the dealers instead they are arresting the middle man for something more major then they should be arrested for. They are going to be arrested for a class x felony since they were dealing on school grounds. They may have never had the drugs on school property if it wasn't for this officer.

As for the kids afraid of dogs I really feel bad for them, but if the police want to be fair to the children they are arresting this is what they need to do.

 

[amid chaos]

Alex, she had 32 drug buys with 9 kids being arrested. I seriously doubt that any of them were first timers.

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Alex, she had 32 drug buys with 9 kids being arrested. I seriously doubt that any of them were first timers.

But are we talking about a joint each time? Or a pound?
Like I said if these where the kids really pushing drugs in the school I am all for it. I just have my doubts untill the facts come out

 

[amid chaos]

Please excuse my language...LOL

I doubt the horny kid who thought he could get into her pants with a few joints was arrested.

 

[~queenie~]

But are we talking about a joint each time? Or a pound?
Like I said if these where the kids really pushing drugs in the school I am all for it. I just have my doubts untill the facts come out

i think I read Falmouth police confiscated more than $6,000 worth of marijuana, $3,500 in cash and various drug paraphernalia at one of the homes searched early yesterday morning in Falmouth. Nine teenagers, five of them juveniles, were arrested and charged.

 

[Airplane dis freak]

im #$%@ glad they arrested/caught them!!
I just hope SHS doesnt have this problem!