Denied Boarding at the Port...Can We Fly Home?

[pjacobi]

I believe Hawaii is the only domestic destination where it would be a legal issue (as in, you'd actually be arrested), but it's a violation of every airline's policy.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201204/couple-arrested-for-flying-after-testing-positive

There was a case of a Honeymoon couple in Hawaii that broke quarantine, was arrested and spent the night in jail.


-Paul

 

[Dug720]

And there is at least one case - on JetBlue early on - where a guy had tested before flying, got the positive results as he and his wife were boarding, and continued to board and fly from NYC to somewhere in FL. His wife let it slip to another passenger who told the flight crew.

That guy and his wife are now banned from JetBlue (and conceivably American and other airlines they partner with, though I am not sure on that) for life.

 

[shburks]

According to DCL supervisor I spoke to, this is a rumor. Although it is on many FB groups and other boards, there is no list you added to, so there is nothing to prevent you from flying. Their only concern is not having you get on their ship. They do not track where you go once you leave the port nor do you need to tell them where you are going, so one could get in a car, go to a hotel, hop a train or a flight, go to Disney World, and/or leave the local area.

I am not suggesting that one should do any of those things. My question was simply if anyone testing positive would be restricted from flying for a certain amount of time or even be required to prove a negative test, and that is not the case.

 

[bethsg]

I have had the 2 Pfizer vaccine, and the booster. Somehow, I had a breakthrough case of COVID. Very mild symptoms, (like a little cold) which is good, and is the purpose of the vaccine. I recently traveled post COVID and with my vaccine card, and Neg Antigen test, was fine to travel. The PCR test is highly sensitive to the virus, and for that reason... you aren't to use PCR testing as a proof of recovery. You can remain positive with the PCR test for months. I'd hate to get to the port and be positive. I'll guess I haven't to use the Public health system (CVS, state locations etc), to make sure I'm PCR negative before my cruise. If I can't test PCR negative, I'll have to cancel despite not being a health risk. Am I missing something?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

My question was simply if anyone testing positive would be restricted from flying for a certain amount of time or even be required to prove a negative test, and that is not the case.

This is 100% false. Please stop spreading this.

You are REQUIRED to fill out a health declaration before boarding an airplane. You are ABSOLUTELY restricted from flying for 14 days after a positive test.

No, DCL doesn't participate in preventing you from flying. The airline prevents you from flying unless you plan on committing fraud on the health declaration form.

 

[Dug720]

I have had the 2 Pfizer vaccine, and the booster. Somehow, I had a breakthrough case of COVID. Very mild symptoms, (like a little cold) which is good, and is the purpose of the vaccine. I recently traveled post COVID and with my vaccine card, and Neg Antigen test, was fine to travel. The PCR test is highly sensitive to the virus, and for that reason... you aren't to use PCR testing as a proof of recovery. You can remain positive with the PCR test for months. I'd hate to get to the port and be positive. I'll guess I haven't to use the Public health system (CVS, state locations etc), to make sure I'm PCR negative before my cruise. If I can't test PCR negative, I'll have to cancel despite not being a health risk. Am I missing something?

I believe I have read that if you've recovered in the last 90 days, there is a form your doctor or someone fills out.

 

[AquaDame]

I believe I have read that if you've recovered in the last 90 days, there is a form your doctor or someone fills out.

People on the boards have confirmed being able to provide this info and board following recovery. Its worth reaching out and asking about the current policy.

 

[jjb1974]

Flying after a COVID positive test is the new shopping cart theory.

 

[Dug720]

Flying after a COVID positive test is the new shopping cart theory.

Shopping cart theory?

 

[jo-jo]

I have had the 2 Pfizer vaccine, and the booster. Somehow, I had a breakthrough case of COVID. Very mild symptoms, (like a little cold) which is good, and is the purpose of the vaccine. I recently traveled post COVID and with my vaccine card, and Neg Antigen test, was fine to travel. The PCR test is highly sensitive to the virus, and for that reason... you aren't to use PCR testing as a proof of recovery. You can remain positive with the PCR test for months. I'd hate to get to the port and be positive. I'll guess I haven't to use the Public health system (CVS, state locations etc), to make sure I'm PCR negative before my cruise. If I can't test PCR negative, I'll have to cancel despite not being a health risk. Am I missing something?

Just curious, with the breakthrough case, why did you get tested? Just to be sure or for work, etc. I also had the phizer and booster, and really if I had a runny nose, I don't know if I would run to get tested. Perhaps I should, but I'm saying it's not the first thing to come to mind.

 

[adamki]

Shopping cart theory?

Essentially it's the theory that returning your shopping cart is the primary test of one's moral character and the key to your ability to particpate in civil society.

 

[Kwami]

Just curious, with the breakthrough case, why did you get tested? Just to be sure or for work, etc. I also had the phizer and booster, and really if I had a runny nose, I don't know if I would run to get tested. Perhaps I should, but I'm saying it's not the first thing to come to mind.

If you do have symptoms that might be Covid-19, then you should get tested so that you don't spread the virus to others. Or, stay home until you aren't sick, I guess.

 

[SkyGuy]

Shopping cart theory?

In a nutshell, you can determine what kind of person someone is if he/she takes the time to return the shopping cart to the corral after using it rather than leaving it randomly in the lot. ie, it’s the right thing to do and it benefits others, but you don’t have any moral or legal obligation to do so.

 

[DCLMP]

I've never given DCL my flight information. I don't really think that's any of their business.

 

[Cheburashka]

I've never given DCL my flight information. I don't really think that's any of their business.

I agree no one should feel compelled to share, but personally I choose to always share it, because it might be useful to do so. If there is a flight delay on the way in, for example, or if there is Onboard Airline Check-In on the way out. People on the boards always say that DCL never waits for late flights, but on a Fantasy cruise 5 years ago, we left Port Canaveral hours behind schedule because winter weather had played havoc with many flights, and the captain himself announced that as the reason why we were departing late: giving guests the chance to board due to their flight delays. Obviously they aren't going to wait for everyone with a late flight & have no obligation to wait, but imo it's useful to let them know just in case if you're flying in day of. If enough guests have late flights & they know about it, they could very well choose to wait.

 

[lanejudy]

on a Fantasy cruise 5 years ago, we left Port Canaveral hours behind schedule because winter weather had played havoc with many flights, and the captain himself announced that as the reason why we were departing late

Chances are some of those folks had travel booked through DCL and it was less expensive to wait than arrange for those passengers to meet up with the ship. DCL will wait (within reason) for people who booked travel through DCL. Otherwise DCL is on the hook for getting those guests to meet the ship or reimbursement. Similar to an excursion.

However sharing flight info can be helpful, particularly post-cruise plans. There have been times the ship was significantly delayed returning to port and DCL informed airlines or facilitated changing flights, etc. If a guest didn't share that info, they are then on their own to modify plans.

 

[bethsg]

I believe I have read that if you've recovered in the last 90 days, there is a form your doctor or someone fills out.

I do have my recovery letter, based on initial diagnosis, but I'll be beyond the 90 days.... so it won't count. But the only way I'll know if I'm clear before I get to the port, is to get a PCR test locally, to be sure I'm negative, but the research I have read, I can remain PCR positive much longer than 90 days post initial positive. It just depends on your body. That is why the PCR test isn't used as a test of recovery.

 

[bethsg]

Just curious, with the breakthrough case, why did you get tested? Just to be sure or for work, etc. I also had the phizer and booster, and really if I had a runny nose, I don't know if I would run to get tested. Perhaps I should, but I'm saying it's not the first thing to come to mind.

We had traveled and both my husband and I had the same symptoms, and since we had flown we decided to do a test. He was neg (and never became positive) and I was positive. We followed the protocols for quarantining, and notification etc... so it was just a time line of waiting. We had more travel plans a month after this so he kept testing to make sure he never became positive, and after my timeline was over, I started testing using the at home BInax rapid antigen tests, because I knew I had to be Negative for our next trip in order to travel. If my destination had required PCR test (they only required antigen test), we would likely have had to cancel, but I don't know. I have no idea when my PCR will become negative, but using the PCR testing resources for proving recovery, seems to be a waste of the testing resources, and clearly not the intention of the various testing locations.

 

[mousefan73]

airline person here. No the no fly list has no connection to CDC or local health departments. Heck I don’t even think the TSA Has the IT know how, technically and resources to set up such a type of program. We’re talking of a potential of hundreds of thousands of people being added to this list a day. The no-fly list focuses on potential risk to cockpit and flight safety. Not health risks.

 

[shburks]

airline person here. No the no fly list has no connection to CDC or local health departments. Heck I don’t even think the TSA Has the IT know how, technically and resources to set up such a type of program. We’re talking of a potential of hundreds of thousands of people being added to this list a day. The no-fly list focuses on potential risk to cockpit and flight safety. Not health risks.

Thank you very much! This is extremely helpful. My husband and several members of my family work in the travel and airline industry but no one knew this exact information.