Cutting in Line

[mgdisney]

Like many other here, 1 or 2 people wouldn't bother me, a group of 15 on the hand would!

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

If it's one person, I don't care. Wouldn't do it myself, but I wouldn't care.

On the other hand, if it's just one person on the line, and the rest of the party joins them later, not cool.

 

[KateKat23]

I am one of those people it wouldn't bother me either. Heck I am on vacation. When I am in Florida it really takes alot for me to get steamed. Also we just got back yesterday and not once did we see this in any lines we were in and we were in lines for EVERYTHING!! It was busier than I have ever seen it. I thought everyone around us was in awesome spirits. We met such nice people in line.

 

[kmvand1]

Guess I'm guilty of being a "line cutter" then too! Have done it several times, and have to agree, it's not a big deal - nor is it technically "cutting in line".

 

[Elliott]

I do do the TSM and soarin' rush...I get the FP's while the wife and kids catch up. But they don't go in the line until I join them, they wait at wherever the line is forming. I just don't want to have to fight who knows how many people to get caught up with them, and you never know when your going to ask to go by that one guy who has almost had enough and you are the one to set him off!
I agree that 1 more person is not likely to make my wait any longer since most riders go through as groups but people trying to get caught up with their party just makes the least enjoyable part of WDW (other than paying the bill) that much more unenjoyable.

 

[dacky041208]

Guess I'm guilty of being a "line cutter" then too! Have done it several times, and have to agree, it's not a big deal - nor is it technically "cutting in line".

I don't think it is a big deal, but I don't see how it isn't cutting in line. It is a rare occasion but I have heard CMs insist people wait for their entire party before hopping in line.

 

[Tara922c]

I personally wouldn't do it because I don't like being seperated from my group, but I wouldn't care if someone else did it in front of me. I rarely see people join thier family, so if it was one, or two people, I wouldn't care. Now, if was a big group joining one or two people already in the line, that might push my buttons. Do I think it is wrong? Yes, Am I going to let it ruin my vacation, or say something, No.

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

Guess I'm guilty of being a "line cutter" then too! Have done it several times, and have to agree, it's not a big deal - nor is it technically "cutting in line".

Ok I'll take the bait how is getting in front of people that were already standing in line ahead of you to advance your position ahead ot them NOT "cutting in line"?

 

[tiredsigh]

I wouldn't wait in line and let my family all come up to meet me. However, I have a bladder disease and sometimes, I have to pee So I have caught up with my family while they are in line.

I have gotten fastpasses for TSM while my family goes into the line for the ride and then caught up with them. We are a family of four so me catching up with my family isn't going to change the wait time in most instances. My family will still be in one car. That's the only ride I have ever done that for. I don't see it as an issue.

Now the 14 teenagers or a whole family coming through the line to catch up with one person who did the waiting is not fair IMO since that does make wait times longer.

But, I'm at WDW so I wouldn't go off on someone

And the PP mentioning stepping over the chain: I would be sitting there hoping that they WHOOPS fell over the chain I know. I can be mean like that

 

[wdw&sonny]

To me, it's rude and I would never do it. Either run faster with the FPs or tell your party to wait at the entrance until you get there. I've seen it lots of times where a couple of people run ahead to get in line and then the slower members excuse themselves through the crowd.

My kids have done this many times, and even though many people are very polite and understanding and offer to let me move forward to join them, I always make them come back to join me. Not, trying to ruin their fun or temper their excitement, just trying to be courteous. There's plenty of fun to be had.

Still, if 1 person asked to pass me by on their way to join their party, I certainly would not say anything.

 

[Elliott]

Guess I'm guilty of being a "line cutter" then too! Have done it several times, and have to agree, it's not a big deal - nor is it technically "cutting in line".

I'm not sure what "technically "cutting in line"" is but.....

From Wikipedia
"Cutting in line, also known as line/queue jumping, butting, barging, budging, skipping, ditching, breaking, shorting, or pushing in is the act of entering a line or queue at any position other than the end. The act of cutting is generally frowned upon by most people. However, it has developed a set of rules to allow for "fair" cutting. These include asking for "cuts" – permission to enter ahead of the person that was asked, or "back cuts" – permission to enter behind the person who was asked.

However, since cutting in front of one person is in essence adding to the wait of every person behind them, this technique is considered fair only if each person behind the one being "cut" allows it. Rarely will such things work in a formal line (such as an amusement park). "Back cuts," similarly, are generally considered impermissible because the person allowing the cut loses nothing by having a person enter in behind them, while everyone else behind the cutter does suffer the additional wait."

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

It doesn't bother me. I have never encountered any of that behavior, so, I tend to think it is uncommon.

But, then, I have been accused of wearing rose colored glasses at WDW. lol. I actually went and bought a set from zenni!

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

I'm not sure what "technically "cutting in line"" is but.....

From Wikipedia
"Cutting in line, also known as line/queue jumping, butting, barging, budging, skipping, ditching, breaking, shorting, or pushing in is the act of entering a line or queue at any position other than the end. The act of cutting is generally frowned upon by most people. However, it has developed a set of rules to allow for "fair" cutting. These include asking for "cuts" – permission to enter ahead of the person that was asked, or "back cuts" – permission to enter behind the person who was asked.

However, since cutting in front of one person is in essence adding to the wait of every person behind them, this technique is considered fair only if each person behind the one being "cut" allows it. Rarely will such things work in a formal line (such as an amusement park). "Back cuts," similarly, are generally considered impermissible because the person allowing the cut loses nothing by having a person enter in behind them, while everyone else behind the cutter does suffer the additional wait."

I wiki'ed it too and was gonna put it in my post but changed my mind.

 

[Luvamouse]

I'm not sure what "technically "cutting in line"" is but.....

From Wikipedia
(abbrv. version) "Back cuts," similarly, are generally considered impermissible because the person allowing the cut loses nothing by having a person enter in behind them, while everyone else behind the cutter does suffer the additional wait."

Great job Elliot!

I too have no problem with 1 person, or an adult and any child under 12 basically. Would I do it? Nope, never. But I don't mind the honest ones... well, the seemingly honest ones...

 

[MaumeeMom]

Ooops! Looks like Elliott was posting at the same time I was.

Guess I'm guilty of being a "line cutter" then too! Have done it several times, and have to agree, it's not a big deal - nor is it technically "cutting in line".

What is the technical definition of cutting in line?

Ok I'll take the bait how is getting in front of people that were already standing in line ahead of you to advance your position ahead ot them NOT "cutting in line"?

Exactly what I thought. Bypassing people who have already been waiting is cutting IMO.

From Wikipedia:

Covert cutting

In lieu of following the procedure mentioned above, some will cut in line by joining up with family members or friends already standing in line. This action is usually more acceptable, but can still be considered "cutting". Many times, this action is purely out of convenience, when one member of the group "saves a place" for the other members, especially when the wait is lengthy. However, this is not always the case. It is more acceptable when the two people are simply together to conduct one transaction, however if both people plan to conduct one transaction each, it is particularly disrespectful (especially in queues with slow cycle times due to high individual transaction times).

 

[2BOYMOM]

I do do the TSM and soarin' rush...I get the FP's while the wife and kids catch up. But they don't go in the line until I join them, they wait at wherever the line is forming. I just don't want to have to fight who knows how many people to get caught up with them, and you never know when your going to ask to go by that one guy who has almost had enough and you are the one to set him off!
I agree that 1 more person is not likely to make my wait any longer since most riders go through as groups but people trying to get caught up with their party just makes the least enjoyable part of WDW (other than paying the bill) that much more unenjoyable.

This is how I feel.

 

[PatsMom]

I do do the TSM and soarin' rush...I get the FP's while the wife and kids catch up. But they don't go in the line until I join them, they wait at wherever the line is forming. I just don't want to have to fight who knows how many people to get caught up with them, and you never know when your going to ask to go by that one guy who has almost had enough and you are the one to set him off!
I agree that 1 more person is not likely to make my wait any longer since most riders go through as groups but people trying to get caught up with their party just makes the least enjoyable part of WDW (other than paying the bill) that much more unenjoyable.

TSM has a sign and CM's making announcements - have all of your party together before you get in line. We noticed it last trip and were glad. That ride was particularly obnoxious for line cutters who were catching up to their party after getting fast passes.

Everyone says one person catching up to their party woudn't bother them. What was happening at TSM was about 100 persons catching up to their parties - pushing their way past people. It was very annoying to those patiently waiting in line.

It is line cutting no matter how you justify it. But those who are going to do it, will do it anyhow. I personally can't imagine pushing past a bunch of people who have been patiently waiting just for convenience. It is rude.

 

[tiggerfan9984]

Ooops! Looks like Elliott was posting at the same time I was.



What is the technical definition of cutting in line?



Exactly what I thought. Bypassing people who have already been waiting is cutting IMO.

From Wikipedia:

I don't see the problem if it's one person meeting their party. Unless he/she is not riding with their party, it isn't going to cause you to wait longer.

 

[tiggerfan9984]

pushing their way past people. It was very annoying to those patiently waiting in line.

I can agree with that. I don't think it would bother me but I can see how it would be annoying.

 

[CarolynU]

Not done it but nor would it bother me if it was just one person. It's the line cutting groups that annoy me as other posters have said.