Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[TheMaxRebo]

And I understand that but, and I want to use this word loosely because it’s going to seem like an attack but I don’t mean it that way, it’s kind of selfish.

1, as I stated above, the theatrical experience provides jobs to a lot of people, and a lot of younger people, a lot of which is needed to put them through college.

2. These movies are available at home 90 days after they’re in theater, so it’s not like theatrical is exclusive. Where we’re heading, streaming is looking to become exclusive.

3. These directors are making these movies to be seen in theaters, not at home. Same with some actors, though actors will take jobs no matter where their film is screened. But we’re going to see the end of film as an art and begin to see film as a media conveyor belt. More SharkNado, less Ford v. Ferrari.

In the end, we may see more movies, but of far less quality, and far less jobs being given out

but wouldn't the job just shift? not like media isn't being made, just more designed for streaming. I am sure productions like Mandalorian or Game of Thrones employ tons of people as well .... if anything people are consuming more media in total not less. And a lot of that streaming quality is increasing improving as well

I also think the theater experience will live on for a long time - at least for th big movies that benefit most from being seen in a theater. Just might be fewer theaters in total but what are left are designed for those time of "epic" movies

(though, perhaps not my place to comment - both of your examples of movies (both good and bad) are ones I have not seen)

 

[Mit88]

Totally agree! I can't imagine James Cameron would have spent a decade of time and astronomical amounts of money working on new technologies to film Avatar 2, 3 and 4, if he knew going in that the movies would never make it to a big screen. I wonder what's going around in his mind right now.

Christopher Nolan has even discussed retirement if the trend towards streaming continues.

 

[The Pho]

Christopher Nolan has even discussed retirement if the trend towards streaming continues.

I really like how insistent he is towards the theatrical experience. I could see him moving towards tighter budgets and sticking hard to theaters should things turn. I’d hate to lose his output.

 

[Tigger's ally]

Sorry but I agree with some of the responses on Twitter.

This one is a complete waste.

This money could of been better used elsewhere

You might not think so if you were taking a grandma or grandpa who you knew it was their last trip. Last time we took my dad it was their last trip and we didn't get the splash picture included in our photo's and I really wish we had as that was his favorite ride.

 

[Mit88]

but wouldn't the job just shift? not like media isn't being made, just more designed for streaming. I am sure productions like Mandalorian or Game of Thrones employ tons of people as well .... if anything people are consuming more media in total not less. And a lot of that streaming quality is increasing improving as well

I also think the theater experience will live on for a long time - at least for th big movies that benefit most from being seen in a theater. Just might be fewer theaters in total but what are left are designed for those time of "epic" movies

(though, perhaps not my place to comment - both of your examples of movies (both good and bad) are ones I have not seen)

I don’t see a job shift that would include Charlie the ticket ripper suddenly becoming a production assistant on a streaming movie set at age 16.

Those are just opposite end of the spectrum movies that I could think of lol. And both have their fan bases, film is subjective, I’m not here to judge the nature of the film, just the quality. With the goal shifting from theatrical cash to subscriber dollars, budgets are going to shrink, which will impact quality of some films. As technology grows, quality costs a lot of money. And while practical can do the trick in lower budget movies, like the Creed movies for example, blockbuster movies need that budget or else Vin Deasel ain’t going to Space in Fast15

 

[xuxa777]

Have you seen the RV yet? Do you know what it looks like?

The pontoons are fun. Are they perfect? No. It’s not part of a parade that’s been planned for years. I’m glad they have been able to find a doable way to do distanced appearances at AK, and it seems neat to see them float by.

Also, for years characters rode around World Showcase on a bus.

Ok, here is the RV, pretty low rent, and much worse than the Double Decker on brand World Showcase bus, surprised it doesn't have the 800-RV4RENT number still on it.

 

[TwoMisfits]

but wouldn't the job just shift? not like media isn't being made, just more designed for streaming. I am sure productions like Mandalorian or Game of Thrones employ tons of people as well .... if anything people are consuming more media in total not less. And a lot of that streaming quality is increasing improving as well

I also think the theater experience will live on for a long time - at least for th big movies that benefit most from being seen in a theater. Just might be fewer theaters in total but what are left are designed for those time of "epic" movies

(though, perhaps not my place to comment - both of your examples of movies (both good and bad) are ones I have not seen)

It will probably lead to the 2nd tier of the industry getting huge pay cuts. When it's not going theatrical, they'll look to save a ton of money of costs. The easiest place to do that is on talent and effects. For movies, talent may be relegated to one big salary, a few midtier ones, and everyone else at day rate.

Hollywood is gonna hurt. I expect more overall jobs for acting for less overall pay - kinda like the gig economy, just at higher job rates...

 

[Mit88]

I really like how insistent he is towards the theatrical experience. I could see him moving towards tighter budgets and sticking hard to theaters should things turn. I’d hate to lose his output.

Even Patty Jenkins basically insisted that, even though you can watch WW84 at home, to please, if it’s safe enough in your area to try and see it in theaters how it’s meant to be seen. While making a lot of money helps these directors continue to get paid an inordinate amount of money (wayyy more than a writer, I can tell you that from experience), it’s still their art. It’s like saying you saw everything at the MET because you saw all the exhibits through a google search. Sure, you saw the art, but you didn’t experience it, and that’s two completely different things

 

[Tigger's ally]

Ok, here is the RV, pretty low rent, and much worse than the Double Decker on brand World Showcase bus, surprised it doesn't have the 800-RV4RENT number still on it.

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Looks pretty good to me. Especially since this is probably temporary.

 

[sullivan.kscott]

yup - if anyone in the ride vehicle did not have their mask on than no one got the photos. So the group that paid for Memory Maker and followed the rules is punished b/c another group didnt' follow rules

So I see this as mostly for that first groups' benefit - that they can still get their ride photos

And hopefully the offending group doesn’t get a photo at all. I’d hate for people to be emboldened to misbehave knowing they’ll get a photo anyway.

 

[Farro]

Ok, here is the RV, pretty low rent, and much worse than the Double Decker on brand World Showcase bus, surprised it doesn't have the 800-RV4RENT number still on it.

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It looks exactly like I would think a caravan would look!

I half expect a plume of smoke to come out when the doors open...

 

[yulilin3]

Looks pretty good to me. Especially since this is probably temporary.

It's this or just have them appear in the lobbies, this is actually extra theming

 

[TheMaxRebo]

It will probably lead to the 2nd tier of the industry getting huge pay cuts. When it's not going theatrical, they'll look to save a ton of money of costs. The easiest place to do that is on talent and effects. For movies, talent may be relegated to one big salary, a few midtier ones, and everyone else at day rate.

Hollywood is gonna hurt. I expect more overall jobs for acting for less overall pay - kinda like the gig economy, just at higher job rates...

I don't know - I think back to when Walt started doing TV and everyone thought he was nuts as it would kill the movie industry and obviously that didn't happen

An added media doesn't mean the former has to end - but people will need to evolve

 

[MickeyWaffles]

Ok, here is the RV, pretty low rent, and much worse than the Double Decker on brand World Showcase bus, surprised it doesn't have the 800-RV4RENT number still on it.

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I don’t know, I think it’s kind of fun for a temporary dose of added magic at the resorts during a pandemic when there would otherwise be nothing. I know my kids would lose their minds if they saw the characters roll up in this at a resort.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

The forever impacts on industries that are based around in person experiences are why it was so important and why it still is so important to have a unified response and not just let “personal responsibility” take control. Largely it failed, and we have pockets in places such as New Zealand that did well but otherwise? It sucks. It really sucks to see the entertainment industry (among so many other things) take what may be a permanent hit.

Im sorry if this is too OT, thought it may be okay given the conversation about theatre and filmmaking right now. I’ll be sad to those go if that’s what it comes down to.

 

[only hope]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/12/disn...ace-masks-to-guests-faces-for-on-ride-photos/

This is the way forward... can't wait to hear the complaints about people not getting maskless photos.

And hopefully the offending group doesn’t get a photo at all. I’d hate for people to be emboldened to misbehave knowing they’ll get a photo anyway.

I was going to say that. The offending party shouldn’t get the photo. They should be met by security after they get off and escorted out of the park. But it’s great that other parties will maybe get their photo now.

 

[Krandor]

The forever impacts on industries that are based around in person experiences are why it was so important and why it still is so important to have a unified response and not just let “personal responsibility” take control. Largely it failed, and we have pockets in places such as New Zealand that did well but otherwise? It sucks. It really sucks to see the entertainment industry (among so many other things) take what may be a permanent hit.

Im sorry if this is too OT, thought it may be okay given the conversation about theatre and filmmaking right now. I’ll be sad to those go if that’s what it comes down to.

I agree with you. Theaters were having some issue pre-covid competing with streaming and the like not so much because people didn't want to go to the theater (though inconsiderate people in theaters were an impact) but the cost and that cost though was what created the money to create something like endgame. The cost is one reason moviepass did so well and after they collapsed the theaters started offering their own subscription programs (was with MP and am now with A-List).

COVID though has really just increased the issues theaters already faced and I don't know what the backside of that side of things looks like. While I have a nice setup at home watching Black Widow for example on that vs in dolby cinemia or IMAX isn't close to the same.

There are some industries that will recover and there are some that will be permanently changed. in-person conventions are another that will be interesting to watch. I wonder if some decide virtual is the better route to stay with?

 

[rteetz]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/12/new-...rder-to-likely-affect-disneyland-resort-soon/

 

[Krandor]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/12/new-...rder-to-likely-affect-disneyland-resort-soon/

*sigh*. there was a time when DLR staying closed until end of the year seemed perposterous.

 

[Mit88]

I agree with you. Theaters were having some issue pre-covid competing with streaming and the like not so much because people didn't want to go to the theater (though inconsiderate people in theaters were an impact) but the cost and that cost though was what created the money to create something like endgame. The cost is one reason moviepass did so well and after they collapsed the theaters started offering their own subscription programs (was with MP and am now with A-List).

COVID though has really just increased the issues theaters already faced and I don't know what the backside of that side of things looks like. While I have a nice setup at home watching Black Widow for example on that vs in dolby cinemia or IMAX isn't close to the same.

There are some industries that will recover and there are some that will be permanently changed. in-person conventions are another that will be interesting to watch. I wonder if some decide virtual is the better route to stay with?

Well subscription programs such as A-List and Regals version were JUST starting to turn a corner into a profiting stream for those companies just as Covid hit. It would have been beneficial for both the company and consumer right around now.

as for conventions, I think you’ll see branch offs such as DC Fandome become a yearly, or bi-annual virtual convention, and wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Disney has already started planning a Marvel version. But if it’s at all possible to return, conventions like SDCC and D23, the Star Wars one etc will return in physical form. San Diego I know relies heavily economically on SDCC and are in very big trouble if it doesn’t return