Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[hereforthechurros]

Have you shared the tales from the boards? Did wonders for getting my crew on board with no EP on the weekend

I know, I'm trying to explain that to him but he's just such a filthy casual.

 

[JacknSally]

I don't know how that is possible without knowing what the capacity was set at to begin with ... and then what % of that capacity was being used

Maybe it was always 50% but prior to that they never got more than 25 used? Not saying that was the case, but I just don't know how you can tell it is increased capacity vs more of a static capacity level being used. (now, Disney shifting around the buckets, that is something eaiser to track)

On the Tuesday show today, John mentioned (and made it very clear that this is second-hand information that is not in any way "official" or confirmed or even necessarily accurate) that [Person A told John] that [a CM in the parks told Person A] that capacity had quietly been raised to 50% in the last week. Take the secondhand info with however much salt you (general you) deem appropriate. Whether or not it's true, we'll likely never know for sure.

Personally, I think it's probably more likely that they're finally closing in on their 25% (or whatever) max capacity, whereas 2 months ago they were capped at 25% (or whatever) but only actually hitting 15% (or whatever). But who knows.

If anyone's interested in hearing the team discuss their experiences, the final discussion topic today was capacity/crowd-levels/compliance in the last week and how it feels in the parks now vs. what it looks like in vlogs/photos and earlier reports, and what impact (if any) the recent Stage 3 in Florida might have on the parks.

Discussion starts around 46:00.

 

[Justrose]

OMG that fall one, though! Something that pretty for Thanksgiving will will be in my face all day every day!

I really hope that is going to be there still in November for my trip!

 

[andyman8]

Capacity has not been increased to 50%. There are ”regular“ days at all four parks where they just barely get to 50% capacity. I agree with @rteetz and @yulilin3 that more spots are being used, partly because some (especially locals/FL residents) are getting more comfortable and because Disney is getting smarter with how to allocate “spots” between the three buckets. I’m not saying that haven’t opened up a few thousand more reservations here or there but nothing even remotely close to being within the realm of jumping to 50%. That’s not to say it won’t be for the holidays or later on, but for now, the math just doesn’t support that claim.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

there's a 200 page thread on the TPaS board with hundreds of AP's who have called and emailed and still nothing. These refunds have been handled horribly

I totally checked out of the AP threads over there and the David’s thread over on the DVC boards because it’s too depressing to be reminded over and over that there’s still two huge issues outstanding for us from March.

Youre telling me I should probably stop living in denial and spend hours dealing with Disney again? Bleh. Lol.

 

[rteetz]

Capacity has not been increased to 50%. There are ”regular“ days at all four parks where they just barely get to 50% capacity. I agree with @rteetz and @yulilin3 that more spots are being used, partly because some (especially locals/FL residents) are getting more comfortable and because Disney is getting smarter with how to allocate “spots” between the three buckets. I’m not saying that haven’t opened up a few thousand more reservations here or there but nothing even remotely close to being within the realm of jumping to 50%. That’s not to say it won’t be for the holidays or later on, but for now, the math just doesn’t support that claim.

Yep. People also need to think about the appearance of crowds. I think many look at crowds differently now than they did pre-covid. Many of the people eating attractions are either taking in significantly less people or not open at all. This is a place DHS has been suffering. Their big people eating shows aren’t open. Those people are instead waiting in attraction lines, in the open shops or restaurants.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Capacity has not been increased to 50%. There are ”regular“ days at all four parks where they just barely get to 50% capacity. I agree with @rteetz and @yulilin3 that more spots are being used, partly because some (especially locals/FL residents) are getting more comfortable and because Disney is getting smarter with how to allocate “spots” between the three buckets. I’m not saying that haven’t opened up a few thousand more reservations here or there but nothing even remotely close to being within the realm of jumping to 50%. That’s not to say it won’t be for the holidays or later on, but for now, the math just doesn’t support that claim.

Thank you, that’s what I was wondering. I thought 50% of actual capacity was basically your typical park day before all this, give or take. 50% would at least show pretty wide open calendars I would think.

I think those numbers with lessened hours and capacity would look awful IRT wait times and crowds around the parks. From my limited knowledge, I don’t think that’s what we’re seeing.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Yep. People also need to think about the appearance of crowds. I think many look at crowds differently now than they did pre-covid. Many of the people eating attractions are either taking in significantly less people or not open at all. This is a place DHS has been suffering. Their big people eating shows aren’t open. Those people are instead waiting in attraction lines, in the open shops or restaurants.

My local friend went to DHS last Thursday and said it was a ghost town outside of the line queues.

Every time I see a post about how crowded it is now I think about DHS the Sunday before Thanksgiving last year. I had never seen that many people in that park before. It was insane. I’m sure it’s no where near that.

 

[Spridell]

I don’t buy that. I really don’t. If they have they haven’t by much. I just think more people are coming.

Yeah I think you are right. It just may seem like they raised capacity.

I was there June 22nd when resorts first opened and was pretty much the only family staying at OKW that night. Then again in Aug when Epcot was totally empty and it felt like a ghost town, and then again 2 weeks ago at MK where it def felt much much more crowded.

I guess with more people coming it gives the appearance of them raising capacity but in reality, no one was really there the first 2 months.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

My local friend went to DHS last Thursday and said it was a ghost town outside of the line queues.

Every time I see a post about how crowded it is now I think about DHS the Sunday before Thanksgiving last year. I had never seen that many people in that park before. It was insane. I’m sure it’s no where near that.

My reference point is a HEA showing night in MK that happened to be the only one that week thanks to a private party and Halloween parties. No way we’re approaching anything like that at the moment.

In the weeks leading up to our trip I kept seeing reports of it taking hours to exit MK by way of the TTC if you tried to leave right after fireworks.

 

[hereforthechurros]

On the Tuesday show today, John mentioned (and made it very clear that this is second-hand information that is not in any way "official" or confirmed or even necessarily accurate) that [Person A told John] that [a CM in the parks told Person A] that capacity had quietly been raised to 50% in the last week. Take the secondhand info with however much salt you (general you) deem appropriate. Whether or not it's true, we'll likely never know for sure.

Personally, I think it's probably more likely that they're finally closing in on their 25% (or whatever) max capacity, whereas 2 months ago they were capped at 25% (or whatever) but only actually hitting 15% (or whatever). But who knows.

If anyone's interested in hearing the team discuss their experiences, the final discussion topic today was capacity/crowd-levels/compliance in the last week and how it feels in the parks now vs. what it looks like in vlogs/photos and earlier reports, and what impact (if any) the recent Stage 3 in Florida might have on the parks.

Discussion starts around 46:00.

Thanks for sharing! My only issue with it being assumed it's capacity being raised vs. demand closing in on capacity is that most days for months now haven't been selling out. You'd think there would be a noticeable need for availability ahead of a capacity increase.

Also, as much as Disney set out to be safety first in this, DL being closed for half the year with no end in sight has to be killing them. Look for more pressure to be put on the open parks to make up what they can.

 

[SaintsManiac]

My reference point is a HEA showing night in MK that happened to be the only one that week thanks to a private party and Halloween parties. No way we’re approaching anything like that at the moment.

In the weeks leading up to our trip I kept seeing reports of it taking hours to exit MK by way of the TTC if you tried to leave right after fireworks.

I was in the Hub on July 4th last year.... Now that was something...

 

[hereforthechurros]

I was in the Hub on July 4th last year.... Now that was something...

Please don't make me picture that.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Please don't make me picture that.

Dessert party was worth every penny!

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1311026205718609927

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1311027664539529218

SOON

 

[pixieprincess925]

I was in the Hub on July 4th last year.... Now that was something...

I was at MK that day also! I was amazed how many people Disney could fit in the plaza leading up to the ferry and monorails. Pretty sure it would stretch to the back of the park if we had those kinds of crowds with today's social distancing.

 

[Grumpy by Birth]

Deleted. rteetz beat me to it!

 

[pixieprincess925]

oh - I also wanted to note that the character cavalcades are awesome and I hope they keep them!

As long as the cavalcade times aren't "posted", there shouldn't be parade traffic waiting along the route each time.

 

[Tigger's ally]

Deleted. rteetz beat me to it!

You gotta get up pretty early in the morning to beat that dude at anything.