Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Farro]

I think they will continue the all or nothing approach. Anything else is too complicated. As it is people “forget” now

There was a little chatter about the timeline of masks on the Disneyland side and its funny how much more optimistic folks here are. Like SO much more. Us Californians are just blobs of depression walking around on two legs these days... Many there feel masks will still be required in Nov 2021. Not a typo.

Personally I think it will be company wide health policy so WDW will not drop it until Disneyland does and Disney will be the last of the companies to drop the mask requirement out of caution. And it absolutely will not happen until a majority of the country has been vaccinated. So, I think we’re looking at mandates starting to drop in Summer 2021 if the public accepts the shot. If Disney goes with the “most cautious” of all theme parks approach I think they’ll take Fall 2021 is not out the question.

Wonder how long Masks = No Disney crowd can hold out? I didn’t last long. As soon as opening day was announced I decided I’d deal with it after all

California sure does seem to be staying the course as far as not lifting any restrictions. Do you know what your state hospitalization rate is?

Not that it matters I guess.

I'm sure people would go to Disneyland even if it meant with masks!

 

[gottalovepluto]

Just positive cases sure. Cases causing an increase in hospitalizations and death? That would make the news.

Europe is reportedly starting a second wave. France had it's highest day of positives yet.
The difference is this time (so far) their hospitalizations/deaths aren't going up. This is very important and sometimes I think reporting loses sight of that. If the virus mutates to be milder, that's a game-changer in itself. My thoughts if the virus does become weaker, people will travel again.

I’m gonna give Europe a month before getting optimistic...

California sure does seem to be staying the course as far as not lifting any restrictions. Do you know what your state hospitalization rate is?

Not that it matters I guess.

I'm sure people would go to Disneyland even if it meant with masks!

People flood Downtown Disney on the weekends, I think DL will see a very warm reception on opening. At least on weekends!

All CA data is here

 

[Farro]

I’m gonna give Europe a month before getting optimistic...


People flood Downtown Disney on the weekends, I think DL will see a very warm reception on opening. At least on weekends!

All CA data is here

Oh sure, but at least it's looking better than last time, for the moment. Even here in Illinois our cases shot up again for past few weeks (maybe over a month?), but hospitalizations never did.

 

[DCLMP]

Just positive cases sure. Cases causing an increase in hospitalizations and death? That would make the news.

Europe is reportedly starting a second wave. France had it's highest day of positives yet.
The difference is this time (so far) their hospitalizations/deaths aren't going up. This is very important and sometimes I think reporting loses sight of that. If the virus mutates to be milder, that's a game-changer in itself. My thoughts if the virus does become weaker, people will travel again.

I think people would travel if the borders were open. I know a lot of people with trips planned to Cancun and Cabo because it's open to Americans.

 

[Farro]

I think people would travel if the borders were open. I know a lot of people with trips planned to Cancun and Cabo because it's open to Americans.

Yes, that's probably one of the biggest issues.

If hospitalizations really do stay down even if increased positives, hopefully the talk will turn to the virus weakening. Which can hopefully lead to lessening of travel restrictions.

Time will tell.

 

[yulilin3]

That would not be good PR. I work in PR. The good PR is photos of guests wearing masks in front of the castle. As many masked photos out there as possible. For Disney, a photo exception would be a nightmare. Disney would not be commended for allowing people to remove masks for photos. They’d be slammed. The BEST thing for Disney to do during this pandemic is to promote every single safety precaution they are taking. The more photos of guests in masks, the better.

People take photos everywhere at Disney parks. They document everything. People would have masks off constantly. People don’t only take photos in certain spots.

It’s hilarious to me how people cannot accept Disney’s stance on this.

I agree with you about the PR side. It is very easy to take a picture with the castle in the background, without a mask and NOT break the rules. For example you can get a picture while sitting in the sleep hollow dining area, the plaza ice cream dining area, the casey's dining area and in the relaxation station area in Tomorrowland, for people that are not familiar with MK they would not know that in these areas you are allowed to take your mask off. But it is easier on Disney to just say you can't take off your mask for a picture

 

[Elle23]

Wonder how long Masks = No Disney crowd can hold out? I didn’t last long. As soon as opening day was announced I decided I’d deal with it after all

Truth. I am pretty sure there is post somewhere on the board saying I would never go to Disney if they required masks. Our trip is in 68 days.

 

[rteetz]

Sharing here since this is a very active thread. The DIS/Dreams/GKTW are in the midst of a 12 hour live show and auction to benefit Give Kids the World. They have already raised $95,000+ just this week alone. There are tons of items to bid on and ways to directly donate. As we all know GKTW has been hit hard by the pandemic and helping them is a big priority of the Disney community.

 

[Pyotr]

Agreed. However, we do feel perfectly comfortable visiting Disney Springs for lunch during a weekday. And yes, we cancelled our AP's partially because of the reason you cited.

I have plans on having dinner at Geyser Point next Saturday. This will be my first time eating out since the pandemic started. Disney is the only place I feel comfortable going to right now. Hotel stay only..no parks.

 

[xuxa777]

overall this is correct from my personal experiences. Universal is a close second to Disney, SW is the worst and when I say worst maybe compliance at 85%.
BUT
I don't think this has anything to do with allowing people to take masks off for pics.

Check out Busch Gardens

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Truth. I am pretty sure there is post somewhere on the board saying I would never go to Disney if they required masks. Our trip is in 68 days.

I know I said it lol, that we would wait them out.

Now I am not entering the US for the foreseeable future unless something changes whether or not I’m allowed but that is not a Disney issue. These last few months have taught me that the masks themselves are NBD and my entire family would have no issue wearing them. If they stick around as the norm in certain situations I wouldn’t be mad.

 

[hereforthechurros]

The issue with 80-90% mask compliance is that it sounds high, but in reality if one or two people for every 10 isn’t taking it seriously, it does start to create an issue as crowds grow. Disney requires masks because there is no way to guarantee distancing at any point. Not only that but those not following rules in the parks probably aren’t following them outside of the parks, meaning they’re more at risk of catching/spreading it.

Here’s to hoping no large outbreaks come from this weekend or as crowds increase! With schools back in session across the country we need to be even more mindful, in my opinion

 

[rpb718]

The issue with 80-90% mask compliance is that it sounds high, but in reality if one or two people for every 10 isn’t taking it seriously, it does start to create an issue as crowds grow. Disney requires masks because there is no way to guarantee distancing at any point. Not only that but those not following rules in the parks probably aren’t following them outside of the parks, meaning they’re more at risk of catching/spreading it.

Here’s to hoping no large outbreaks come from this weekend or as crowds increase! With schools back in session across the country we need to be even more mindful, in my opinion

I am doubtful any increase in cases within the next several weeks would be attributed to any theme park. As has been described from past holidays so far this year (Memorial Day, Independence Day) any outbreaks would be generally attributed as a post-holiday spike, which in this case would be Labor Day. And with universities/colleges/schools starting up before and after the holiday, this would spread the blame around in that direction. I think the only way any Florida theme parks could come under fire is if Florida itself has a big spike before the end of the month.

 

[Mit88]

The issue with 80-90% mask compliance is that it sounds high, but in reality if one or two people for every 10 isn’t taking it seriously, it does start to create an issue as crowds grow. Disney requires masks because there is no way to guarantee distancing at any point. Not only that but those not following rules in the parks probably aren’t following them outside of the parks, meaning they’re more at risk of catching/spreading it.

Here’s to hoping no large outbreaks come from this weekend or as crowds increase! With schools back in session across the country we need to be even more mindful, in my opinion

‘You’re exactly right. People that see others “Getting away with” not wearing their mask in the parks, taking pictures, drinking and eating while walking, etc are going to think “If they’re doing it, I’m going to do it” type of mentality. That’s not everyone, like I didn’t see people without their mask on and think that it was fine to take mine off because others were. But people that didn’t want to wear one in the first place will begin to have that mentality to try and push the boundaries.

I’m sure the 80-90% compliance is in reference to guests that weren’t in the eye line of CMs because the CMs I saw werent letting that fly. And they’re not kind if they need to tell you twice. They’re not rude or obnoxious, but they’re very stern to those trying to skirt the rules. Unfortunately a CM isnt paired with every guest or every party to make sure they’re following guidelines at all times, so some will slip through until they encounter a CM. But out of the line of sight, they can’t keep on top of every guest. Its up to the guests to take some responsibility as well

 

[Mit88]

I know I said it lol, that we would wait them out.

Now I am not entering the US for the foreseeable future unless something changes whether or not I’m allowed but that is not a Disney issue. These last few months have taught me that the masks themselves are NBD and my entire family would have no issue wearing them. If they stick around as the norm in certain situations I wouldn’t be mad.

‘I was never in the wait it out group, but I was definitely one that thought it would impede on my experience to deal with a mask, the heat, potentially dehydration, the running around, etc. and that concern grew as the trip got closer. But after day 2 of Vero, it had little to no impact on me.

But I’m also 32 years old with no children. So my experience is much easier because I’m not dealing with children that are more hesitant to wear one, and I kind of forget that aspect of the situation when I say “Don’t worry about it, the masks aren’t that bad”

 

[anthony2k7]

yeah, I never said there were no cases just not anything major. There's no way to block a major outbreak from one spot. that comes out.

But with tracing of cases still not really happening in FL how would anyone know the difference between a big outbreak and an isolated case?

 

[anthony2k7]

As someone going next week I’d love this and absolutely adhere to the mask policy the rest of the time. The problem is if you give most people an inch they will take a mile and allowing masks off while pictures will lead to masks being off more elsewhere.

People take pictures everywhere at disney. That's surely part of the issue.

 

[Mit88]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1302962895899238401

Sounds like the Soundstages and MIB tents MAY be used for houses in October. It would line up with the extremely long waits for Shrek if one of the theaters was closed.

 

[anthony2k7]

But that isn't what is happening at other places that do allow it.

But do they actually allow it in their rules? Or are they just not enforcing the rules as well as Disney?

 

[DGsAtBLT]

‘I was never in the wait it out group, but I was definitely one that thought it would impede on my experience to deal with a mask, the heat, potentially dehydration, the running around, etc. and that concern grew as the trip got closer. But after day 2 of Vero, it had little to no impact on me.

But I’m also 32 years old with no children. So my experience is much easier because I’m not dealing with children that are more hesitant to wear one, and I kind of forget that aspect of the situation when I say “Don’t worry about it, the masks aren’t that bad”

At this point I feel like the biggest issue with masks outdoors in warm climates is tan lines, lol.

Honestly, my kids have done really well too. Some kids despise wearing pants for example (we know a boy like this), so his mom tried out dozens of different kinds of pants until she found a pair he liked, bought multiple and future sizes too. Masks are a little like that especially for neurotypical kids. They’ll for the most part adapt and learn if they have to with some trial and error and work.

Forget Disney, tons of kids have to get used to wearing them daily at school.