Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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Got my first test yesterday since returning home. Getting another one when I receive the results and then another when I receive those results. 3 negative tests and I’ll allow myself out of quarantine. Feel nothing yet day 4 of being back, but could be asymptomatic if I did get it in Florida
 
As I’m sure you are aware a lot of people refuse to go to sea world. So you’re already dealing with a different group of people than Disney World.

Of the people I know of who would go to Sea World, they just don’t care about the animals. I would be surprised if they care about other people catching a (possibly) deadly cold.
can only speak for myself. I go to SW, I care about animals and I know the changes that SW has made in their company and with the treatment of animals. I also go to WDW. And I care about other people catching a deadly cold. So I guess I might be the only person out there that goes to both and does care about animals and others safety? I am not a fan of generalization
 

can only speak for myself. I go to SW, I care about animals and I know the changes that SW has made in their company and with the treatment of animals. I also go to WDW. And I care about other people catching a deadly cold. So I guess I might be the only person out there that goes to both and does care about animals and others safety? I am not a fan of generalization
Plus SeaWorld does outstanding work in animal rescue and rehabilitation. I had the great pleasure to work with them in my former job, and they were extraordinarily responsive and professional.
 
ugh I'm gonna go ahead and sayt it, I really hate people sometimes. Sea World is honestly the most vocal of all the theme parks in terms of reminding people the rules, showing people the rules, have more Ambassadors patrolling and yet people are just blatantly breaking them, it's so frustrating, and if an outbreak or even just a case gets linked back to SW it'll be the parks fault.
I didn't do any rides just the 2 main shows and some of the animal exhibits and the craft beer festival, it wasn't horribly busy in any of those locations although the food kiosks had longer queues than what I've seen at Epcot so far
So kudos to SW for trying their best and booo to all the idiots who cannot adhere by the rules

It is only going to get worst, people are flat out worn out and now you have more people going out that said they would wait till no masks.
 
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Yay! 21 days (August) in Florida with family, WDW and Universal. Negative COVID tests 10 days after.

Yuck.. 1 week at college and DD has symptoms (101 fever and sore throat) and a confirmation that roommate tested positive. All of us were tested today. Waiting for results.

Disney World.. safer that college.
 
Yay! 21 days (August) in Florida with family, WDW and Universal. Negative COVID tests 10 days after.

Yuck.. 1 week at college and DD has symptoms (101 fever and sore throat) and a confirmation that roommate tested positive. All of us were tested today. Waiting for results.

Disney World.. safer that college.
Disney is definitely safer than college!
I am wishing for a speedy recovery for your Daughter and her roommate
 
It is only going to get worst, people are flat out worn out and now you have more people going out that said they would wait till no masks.

The further we get from reopening, the more Disney fans are having less of an issue with wearing a mask as long as they get their fix

****Need to add this because the 2 times I’ve stated this opinion I’ve gotten responses of “I’m not going until masks are not mandatory”. This is not a one-size-fits-all opinion. This is a general observation that I’ve gathered from asking guests at the parks, to seeing posts on social media*****

There just arent a whole lot of people (actually I havent seen/heard any) that I’ve seen say that once they’ve gotten done with their WDW trip that they’ll never make another trip where they have to wear a mask again. Unless you’re coming from a very cold climate where wearing a mask is an additional piece of clothing to keep you warm, and you’re not used to heat/humidity, the heat+humidity+mask isnt as miserable as you’d assume it is if you havent been.
 
The further we get from reopening, the more Disney fans are having less of an issue with wearing a mask as long as they get their fix

****Need to add this because the 2 times I’ve stated this opinion I’ve gotten responses of “I’m not going until masks are not mandatory”. This is not a one-size-fits-all opinion. This is a general observation that I’ve gathered from asking guests at the parks, to seeing posts on social media*****

There just arent a whole lot of people (actually I havent seen/heard any) that I’ve seen say that once they’ve gotten done with their WDW trip that they’ll never make another trip where they have to wear a mask again. Unless you’re coming from a very cold climate where wearing a mask is an additional piece of clothing to keep you warm, and you’re not used to heat/humidity, the heat+humidity+mask isnt as miserable as you’d assume it is if you havent been.

I was more referring to people not following the rules. It’s happening everywhere.

Hard to say how the coming months will go and how many APs will actually renew. We have 2 months left and haven’t gone and not sure we will because for some of us the mask and heat is miserable. And yes I still know many around me that will not go till no masks (2.5 hours away). Also have quite a few that did 1 day trip and are done , those that had passes expired and are waiting till later now to renew. Now that the holiday weekend over will be interesting to see what happens.
 
I was more referring to people not following the rules. It’s happening everywhere.

Hard to say how the coming months will go and how many APs will actually renew. We have 2 months left and haven’t gone and not sure we will because for some of us the mask and heat is miserable. And yes I still know many around me that will not go till no masks (2.5 hours away). Also have quite a few that did 1 day trip and are done , those that had passes expired and are waiting till later now to renew. Now that the holiday weekend over will be interesting to see what happens.

Its mask fatigue. Just like quarantine fatigue about 4 weeks into Stay at Home Orders. Some people dont have the willpower to confine to the rules that they dont want to follow. But Disney isnt going to allow guests to dictate that stance. They’re going to continue to tell everyone they see to wear their mask, and wear it correctly if they already arent. There will always be people that arent seen by the powers that be, but I can tell you from experience that they havent let up enforcing the rules. So people that dont like it arent going to be allowed to walk around without a mask just because they’re tired of it
 
The further we get from reopening, the more Disney fans are having less of an issue with wearing a mask as long as they get their fix

****Need to add this because the 2 times I’ve stated this opinion I’ve gotten responses of “I’m not going until masks are not mandatory”. This is not a one-size-fits-all opinion. This is a general observation that I’ve gathered from asking guests at the parks, to seeing posts on social media*****

There just arent a whole lot of people (actually I havent seen/heard any) that I’ve seen say that once they’ve gotten done with their WDW trip that they’ll never make another trip where they have to wear a mask again. Unless you’re coming from a very cold climate where wearing a mask is an additional piece of clothing to keep you warm, and you’re not used to heat/humidity, the heat+humidity+mask isnt as miserable as you’d assume it is if you havent been.

The people that have been going to the parks up until now have been the hardest of the hardcore Disney fans who would go regardless of the situation.

The fact is that many people won’t go as long as masks are required. 3 of my co-workers, who are just as hardcore as me, cancelled their annual passes due to the mask requirement. Many of our friends in the Tampa area won’t go with the restrictions and masks in place. I cancelled my annual pass and had all my tickets refunded for the year.


Disney has some difficult divisions to make when the Rona starts to pass. Disney can not survive long term with the parks at 10% capacity.
 
The people that have been going to the parks up until now have been the hardest of the hardcore Disney fans who would go regardless of the situation.

The fact is that many people won’t go as long as masks are required. 3 of my co-workers, who are just as hardcore as me, cancelled their annual passes due to the mask requirement. Many of our friends in the Tampa area won’t go with the restrictions and masks in place. I cancelled my annual pass and had all my tickets refunded for the year.


Disney has some difficult divisions to make when the Rona starts to pass. Disney can not survive long term with the parks at 10% capacity.

And I spoke to numerous people down there that said they hadn’t planned on making a trip because of the masks, but decided that they needed Disney. Again, its not a one-size-fits-all. But people are deciding that Disney is more important to them than having to wait until whenever they release the mask rule. It could easily be next July-August, potentially longer, until the mask mandate is lifted at Disney. Disney fans arent known to have that much self control where if its safe, but they have to wear a mask, eventually they’re probably going to decide the trade off is worth it
 
And I spoke to numerous people down there that said they hadn’t planned on making a trip because of the masks, but decided that they needed Disney. Again, its not a one-size-fits-all. But people are deciding that Disney is more important to them than having to wait until whenever they release the mask rule. It could easily be next July-August, potentially longer, until the mask mandate is lifted at Disney. Disney fans arent known to have that much self control where if its safe, but they have to wear a mask, eventually they’re probably going to decide the trade off is worth it

hardcore Disney fans are still not the biggest majority In the park normally. Those are the ones mostly going now.
 
hardcore Disney fans are still not the biggest majority In the park normally. Those are the ones mostly going now.

Never said that. It takes time for things to get back to normal. This was never going to happen overnight. Can’t force people on an airplane during a pandemic. But more people are getting more comfortable. The parks wont be at capacity for weeks straight any time soon, but theres eventually going to be a turning point where people get to a comfort level where they’ll return.
 
The people that have been going to the parks up until now have been the hardest of the hardcore Disney fans who would go regardless of the situation.

The fact is that many people won’t go as long as masks are required. 3 of my co-workers, who are just as hardcore as me, cancelled their annual passes due to the mask requirement. Many of our friends in the Tampa area won’t go with the restrictions and masks in place. I cancelled my annual pass and had all my tickets refunded for the year.


Disney has some difficult divisions to make when the Rona starts to pass. Disney can not survive long term with the parks at 10% capacity.

This, same thing in my area. Sure it seems like a lot are going but bottom line is the parks are no where. Near as busy. My good friend is hardcore Disney goes 1-4 times a month and they aren’t renewing if masks aren’t dropped by feb/March when their passes are up, they have had fun but I they are also finding it won’t be worth the renewal
Cost either.

your right this is not sustainable for long for Disney. They have also lost a huge portion of people that spend a lot. First timers, families with young kids, the international market.
 
Never said that. It takes time for things to get back to normal. This was never going to happen overnight. Can’t force people on an airplane during a pandemic. But more people are getting more comfortable. The parks wont be at capacity for weeks straight any time soon, but theres eventually going to be a turning point where people get to a comfort level where they’ll return.

It is not just comfort , it’s financial For many. It’s also gonna take a long time for many to feel comfortable spending that kind of money on a vacation, many won’t be able to for years.
 
Strong thunderstorms moved through around 6pm or so and Epcot really cleared out after that. Line for Frozen stayed long though so we skipped that. Able to get food at a few booths with no wait though. Boardwalk area has lines for the pizza window and bakery. Checked into our room and found that we have no hot water in the shower so may be moving rooms if they can't fix it. Sigh.

Oh, and mask compliance was pretty high - notable exception being a guy directly in front of us in the line for Soarin' who kept putting it around his chin and then just took it off altogether. CM caught him and he said "I forgot, sorry". Um, no we watched him put it up only when a CM came into our sightline throughout the line. Grr. We just kept two markers between him and us. There always has to be that one jerk to try to ruin an experience for others.

Other than that, a good but fairly crowded day. That said, the longest we waited was about 15-20 minutes for Soarin' when it was posted as a 30 min wait. Others were also shorter than posted wait times and mostly walk ons to 5 or 10 minutes. Didn't do Frozen like I mentioned and also Test Track was a long wait initially followed by shutting down due to the storms so we didn't do it either. I should also note that in the Living Seas area there was no social distancing and it was pretty crowded looking into the different aquariums so that would be an area to skip on a crowded day.

AK tomorrow and from looking at the wait times at that park today we feel like it won't be too bad. Knock on wood.
 
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This, same thing in my area. Sure it seems like a lot are going but bottom line is the parks are no where. Near as busy. My good friend is hardcore Disney goes 1-4 times a month and they aren’t renewing if masks aren’t dropped by feb/March when their passes are up, they have had fun but I they are also finding it won’t be worth the renewal
Cost either.

your right this is not sustainable for long for Disney. They have also lost a huge portion of people that spend a lot. First timers, families with young kids, the international market.
Right now and for the foreseeable future Disney can’t do anything about the masks anyway because they are under a mandate in Orange County. So it is not a question of Disney making any decisions at all about masks to affect their bottom line - they are following the local mandate which the local authorities have said will likely be in place until at least the end of this year. This isn’t up to Disney. Could they loosen up *where* they require people to wear masks? Sure, a little bit, but once you start telling people you don’t have to wear them here but you do have to wear them there, you make your employees’ jobs that much harder and make it that much easier for people to skirt the rules. They have to do much less policing when the understanding is that you are expected to wear a mask everywhere. I do think that eventually we will see a ramping down of the masks - maybe having them be required inside shops and restaurants and indoor attractions only - before things become totally mask free at Disney but I think we are at least 3-4 months away from something like that.
 
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