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Absolutely there are concerns with what other people will do. There are a large portion of people that theres no amount of convincing that will have them put on a face covering, and to a point, thats their right. But its also the right of businesses not to let them in. I personally havent seen anyone without a mask on in my 4 trips to the grocery store, but I see people while I’m walking my dog without wearing one. Those cases I’m not too worried about as our street isnt filled with people so theres really not much of a necessity to wear one. I’d love it if everyone could come to solidarity and do this one thing for the betterment of the entire community, but its just unrealistic, unfortunately. Its just best to attempt to avoid the ones not following the guidelines, though at times its tough to.



This is what I thought a few weeks ago, but was corrected. Yes, the number is rumored to be around 95-100k, but thats never been, and likely never will be a confirmed number. But its also not a good number to base capacity levels on as the average day at MK only sees about 40-50k people. So in all likelihood their capacity limit would be based on that number, and not necessarily the ~90k number. So a 50% limit would be more like 25k, which is still a lot of people, but theyd easily be able to obtain that number if they desired. It will probably be around 18-20k to start, depending on when they reopen.
The problem is that you have different organizations and media outlets that have now came out saying that masks serve zero purpose and are just a measure so people will stop worrying. Why wear one if they are just to make people feel good? I work in public safety and wear one at work, only because I don't have a choice. When I'm off work , I don't, not once.
 
Just thinking of the optics. Throw crap, some sticks. As a lawyer you know a click-through, even a signed form- all can be tossed In court by claiming signing under duress-“ I was holding up the line, my kids were screaming, I didn’t understand some of the words”- while I suspect that disney would prevail, watching UO from the sidelines makes smart legal sense to me, the non-lawyer type!

it doesn’t have to be duress. Even a signed waiver doesn’t absolve a company from liability if it can be proven they were negligent. As a case in point tough mudder has people sign a death waiver. they still got sued when somebody died because they had inadequate safety procedures on an obstacle. In a case like that if I’m climbing a cargo net and I fall on my own that’s on me but If they don’t attach the cargo net properly and the whole net falls a waiver won’t cover you.
 
I’m not talking about the pandemic. I’m talking about the fact that Disney has known for a long time there would be issues with compliance on face masks.
LEGOLAND is not requiring guests to wear a face covering. That would make me a bit anxious going there with no barrier between me and other guests. Since it’s a park basically for 12 and under there’s going to be a lot of close contact. Will be hard to social distance in that park. Hope it works out well for them.
 
They’re selling dated tickets to be used on specific days. If they know they won’t open by then, that’s not acceptable. That’s fraud imo. If they still don’t know, that’s fine. But they also need to communicate better.
Yeah, I had dated tickets for June. When my room reservation was "affected", I expected my tickets to extend. When the park hours were yanked, I thought surely my tickets would be extended (as promised) then.

Nope. I called. They said "Wait and see if we're actually open on that day, and then maybe we'll extend you. There will be an announcement next month."

With a 60-day fastpass reservation window, there's a real small window to use those tickets, and no school break long enough to use my tickets.

I didn't use the word fraud while I was talking to them, but it feels like fraud, and like services not provided. Disney lost a lot of good will for us in just a few days.
 

It does things are changing daily on what their plans are. MNSSHP is now rumoured not to be taking place as its hard to do with social distancing measures in place.

I think Disney's biggest issue is transportation in regards to opening. Universal doesn't have to worry as much.
I wouldn’t assume that those rumors accurately reflect what is going on. If they do have some truth to them, it’s likely whoever is leaking the info doesn’t have the full picture.
 
Maybe look at it under booking a new reservation? Availability does change, but usually to the extreme you describe. Although I’m curious as to how you found a CL room open when it would appear they are all blocked out.
Wonder if it’s like what we saw with CSR. All gone one day and then random rooms popped back into inventory...
 
Agreed. Disney's biggest issue with enforcing the masks is doing in a Magical way. Where other parks will most likely go with constantly harping on people to wear them. Just look at most parks around the country and how they deal will people taking their phones out on rides. Six Flags and Cedar Fair will kick people out for doing that as it's a safety issue. Disney just hands out fast passes for doing it.

I disagree that they are quite that lax. But regardless, this was an issue Disney was fully aware of. There were no surprises and it’s not a reason for delaying opening.
 
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Does anyone know, are they resuming construction on anything yet?

I have to be honest, that's what is bothering me most. If they are getting the NBA, whatever they do with guests and parks opening, they better resume construction on Rat, Tron, the mess that is Future World in Epcot.

To me, the rumor of an August opening seems to suggest they aren't as worried about their finances as we are! So come on, let's start the unfinished projects please.
 
Does anyone know, are they resuming construction on anything yet?

I have to be honest, that's what is bothering me most. If they are getting the NBA, whatever they do with guests and parks opening, they better resume construction on Rat, Tron, the mess that is Future World in Epcot.

To me, the rumor of an August opening seems to suggest they aren't as worried about their finances as we are! So come on, let's start the unfinished projects please.

Remember the good ol’ days back in March when we could still daydream about Disney kicking construction into high gear while the parks were closed and get projects done faster? 🙃
 
Remember the good ol’ days back in March when we could still daydream about Disney kicking construction into high gear while the parks were closed and get projects done faster? 🙃

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Yes!!! But seriously, not opening, not doing construction, what the heck are they doing???

I don't expect the projects that weren't started to get going, but at least they should be starting on the projects that already are in progress. I mean let's be real, those are already paid for.
 
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Yes!!! But seriously, not opening, not doing construction, what the heck are they doing???

I don't expect the projects that weren't started to get going, but at least they should be starting on the projects that already are in progress. I mean let's be real, those are already paid for.

Pausing the castle painting killed me a little at the time.
 
The problem is that you have different organizations and media outlets that have now came out saying that masks serve zero purpose and are just a measure so people will stop worrying. Why wear one if they are just to make people feel good? I work in public safety and wear one at work, only because I don't have a choice. When I'm off work , I don't, not once.

Why does the person under the Mickey costume wear that costume if it’s just to make people feel good? Adults know that there’s a person under there dealing with unbearable heat, yet adults go up and take pictures and get autographs just as much as kids do.

If they come out and say masks are no longer mandatory, then great. But as long as I’m asked to wear one, it’s a mild inconvenience. No one wants to wear them. When I was a kid and my parents told me to clean my room, I didn’t say “Whats the point if I’m the only one that goes in there?”
 
Pausing the castle painting killed me a little at the time.

I still have really mixed feelings about the whole super bright blue thing, but the half-done castle makes me cringe. If they can finish *anything* before they reopen, I hope they please make the castle look nice. At least that is a smaller project. We all know we aren't coming back to a fixed EPCOT 🤣
 
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Yes!!! But seriously, not opening, not doing construction, what the heck are they doing???

I don't expect the projects that weren't started to get going, but at least they should be starting on the projects that already are in progress. I mean let's be real, those are already paid for.
For what it's worth a poster on WDW magic that is good with info has said not to expect any construction to happen til parks open again.

I disagree that they are quite that lax. But regardless, this was an issue Disney was fully aware of. There were no surprises and it’s not a reason for delaying opening.

I agree they knew the issue but it's just one of the reasons for delaying. I'm guessing it's one of many for delaying. Transportation is another plus getting people to pay full price for half of the experience.
 
Agreed. I think their biggest issue is trying to balance all of that and keep the Disney Magic. IMO if Disney wants to open they need to lose some of that magic.
A lot of it has to do with money and keeping the Magic. Its a tough balance for Disney more then Universal.
Agreed. Disney's biggest issue with enforcing the masks is doing in a Magical way. Where other parks will most likely go with constantly harping on people to wear them.

As you correctly point out, Disney is Magical. And I think that remains a strength during these times.

I can handle less magic (although smaller crowds increases it IMO) for a while once they open.
 
I hesitate to believe any/most/all of these posters with connections/that are good with info. I know if I was a Disney exec with enough clout to get wind of the big news, I would assume that telling others would be a no-no. Telling my known fellow Disney addict friends who I can reasonably assume would share it with others (probably publicly) would be a definite no-no. Why are these people potentially risking their own job status to provide friends with grains of possibly somewhat correct at one point in time information? It just doesn't make a lot of sense for me. I feel like in this economy especially, people are extra careful about not jeopardizing the security of their jobs.

I'm sure everyone is well-meaning, but I think most of this super-specific stuff that we hear if true at all is pretty far down the line in a big game of telephone.
 
For what it's worth a poster on WDW magic that is good with info has said not to expect any construction to happen til parks open again.



I agree they knew the issue but it's just one of the reasons for delaying. I'm guessing it's one of many for delaying. Transportation is another plus getting people to pay full price for half of the experience.
That’s my point, it’s not a valid reason to delay. They were aware of transportation issues as well. They knew they’d have to cut back on experiences. I’m sure they were planning their re-opening the morning after they closed. Nothing, absolutely nothing has changed that would make them delay opening.
 
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