Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[runjulesrun]

I really can’t believe people think Disney will up and move DL to another state, like it’s a carnival. People realize those buildings are actually foundation based and not trailers on blocks that can be hooked onto a semi and moved across country right? I get this is a rumors board, but let’s at least keep the rumors in the realm of human possibility.

I don't believe for a second that DL would be moved to a different state but in a dreamer's world, I would love to see them stick it to Newsom for keeping them closed and moving would achieve that. Not reality but when you are a little bitter, it's fun to dream.

 

[Mit88]

I really can’t believe people think Disney will up and move DL to another state, like it’s a carnival. People realize those buildings are actually foundation based and not trailers on blocks that can be hooked onto a semi and moved across country right? I get this is a rumors board, but let’s at least keep the rumors in the realm of human possibility.

Ultron picked the city of Sokovia out of the ground and raised it into the atmosphere. Have you seen some of the AI that’s been created? We’re close to Ultron. And if we’re close to Ultron, we’re close to being able to move Disneyland and DCA to another state.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Call me an optimist but if we have a vaccine approved by year’s end, it goes into distribution (which most of the candidates are already in to a certain extent) in early 2021, and they start distribution by March/April, I think a reopening at some point during summer is in the cards. But there’s a lot of it’s in that statement.

2020 cancelled optimism. Not a thing anymore.

 

[sullivan.kscott]

Call me an optimist but if we have a vaccine approved by year’s end, it goes into distribution (which most of the candidates are already in to a certain extent) in early 2021, and they start distribution by March/April, I think a reopening at some point during summer is in the cards. But there’s a lot of it’s in that statement.

The biggest if in that statement is getting people to be willing to take it. And be compliant in getting both doses within the window (all vaccine candidates currently not paused in the US require 2 4-6 weeks apart)

 

[gottalovepluto]

As stated by a tweet earlier, that has since been deleted, I absolutely believe Disney should be targeting Californians, and DL APs in particular to come to WDW. I know Californians are more cliquey with their park and basically don’t acknowledge the existence of WDW, but it’s something, and it’s better than what they’ve got. Stop sending passive aggressive messages to Newsom, take his residents and profit off of them.

From a Californian- PREACH. WDW hotels aren’t exactly overflowing anyway...

 

[gottalovepluto]

Disney completely abandoning California is a bit far fetched, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them pull back a little. Depending on how long this lasts I could see them slowly moving parts of HQ away. Only time will tell, and apparently reopening DL is going to take more time than I think we all expected.

The people who work at HQ have no interest in permanently leaving sunny + without humidity California. Disney has already moved much of their production out of state, gonna be harder to start moving other stuff.

 

[sullivan.kscott]

You’d also have to get a certain part of the population to finally be open to the idea of vaccinations, which I think there’s a better chance of waking up tomorrow and these last 7 months were just a long vivid nightmare than for that to occur. If everyone isn’t taking the vaccine, or distribution the first year is light, and if the vaccine doesn’t take, which is the case with even the flu shot, then we’re talking a miracle for Disneyland to open by the summer AND stay open.

Honestly, I have a feeling the requirements will soften if the next few months go well. But even then I think the absolute earliest reopening time frame is still around Easter, which is absolutely mind boggling.

I guess Chapek spoke too soon when he said with certainty that DCL would be the last to come back on line. Still possible. But Disneyland is making it a competition

At this point I think Disneyland very well could be last. Especially if they can get European sailings going.
If these next few months don’t go well and are anywhere close to March/April in the northeast from a news standpoint, I have a feeling a significant portion of vaccine hold-out folks will change their tune. But it’s going to be months from approval to distribution and then to see the positive effects.
Orange County, CA, is a long way off from the announced guidelines. It’s going to take revision or legal action to get DLR open.

 

[Brianstl]

When it shows up here in a shopping mall parking lot in a Canadian city many Americans have never even heard of, you guys are all gonna look real silly.

It is going to end up in one of those places in Saskatchewan that sounds like a made up city name.

 

[sullivan.kscott]

As stated by a tweet earlier, that has since been deleted, I absolutely believe Disney should be targeting Californians, and DL APs in particular to come to WDW. I know Californians are more cliquey with their park and basically don’t acknowledge the existence of WDW, but it’s something, and it’s better than what they’ve got. Stop sending passive aggressive messages to Newsom, take his residents and profit off of them.

YES. And California has no travel quarantine requirement, so ...

 

[DGsAtBLT]

It is going to end up in one of those places in Saskatchewan that sounds like a made up city name.

Disneyland Regina! We don’t even have to change the acronym.

 

[Brianstl]

The people who work at HQ have no interest in permanently leaving sunny + without humidity California. Disney has already moved much of their production out of state, gonna be harder to start moving other stuff.

They are interested in no state income tax.

 

[sullivan.kscott]

The people who work at HQ have no interest in permanently leaving sunny + without humidity California. Disney has already moved much of their production out of state, gonna be harder to start moving other stuff.

Sunny, no humidity, and a pretty good water wonderland = Lake Tahoe. Nevada would be much more tax friendly, too.

 

[Mit88]

Orange County, CA, is a long way off from the announced guidelines. It’s going to take revision or legal action to get DLR open.

That’s the only way I see them opening before fall/winter 2021. I think revision is definitely possible, or maybe just hopeful on my end.

SDCC, a HUGE revenue stream for the city of San Diego every summer wouldn’t be able to take place with these requirements in place. Many people would still be weary of going in 2021 anyway, but having nothing of profit for that city two years in a row from SDCC would absolutely destroy San Diego businesses that are still left standing. So then you’re looking at Anaheim, and San Diego in extreme financial trouble.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Sunny, no humidity, and a pretty good water wonderland = Lake Tahoe. Nevada would be much more tax friendly, too.

They can’t afford housing there. You see the Bay Area discovered Tahoe around about April

 

[sullivan.kscott]

That’s the only way I see them opening before fall/winter 2021. I think revision is definitely possible, or maybe just hopeful on my end.

SDCC, a HUGE revenue stream for the city of San Diego every summer wouldn’t be able to take place with these requirements in place. Many people would still be weary of going in 2021 anyway, but having nothing of profit for that city two years in a row from SDCC would absolutely destroy San Diego businesses that are still left standing. So then you’re looking at Anaheim, and San Diego in extreme financial trouble.

Yep. It’s going to kill a lot of CA tourism for gathering type events. I’m planning my return to racing in 2021, and have been eyeing Ironman Cali in October (Sacramento is the host). It’s not a huge event by other standards, but 2500 athletes willing to drop $700+ on a race, plus hotels and food before spending a long weekend to a week in wine country or Disneyland/Uni Hollywood is one of many events in limbo from these guidelines.

 

[sullivan.kscott]

They can’t afford housing there. You see the Bay Area discovered Tahoe around about April

NoCal has discovered Montana (alongside WA and OR). I’ll take my new equity, but sheesh. Probably couldn’t move up if we sold now because our home price curve is steeper than our infection rate.
It’s not an invalid point, though, that a homeowner in Burbank could sell and have a decent chunk to take to a new market. Or Disney could find the talent if some folks aren’t willing to move (I don’t doubt there is that population, too).

-Honestly, though, Disney isn’t moving. This is a rough patch, but it will end. It’s fun to speculate and daydream of a big corporation (or many) “sticking it to the man.”

 

[one_cat]

Do you have any idea how much it would cost to build two new theme parks from scratch? It’s not happening. Dallas also has a much worse climate than Southern California.

Texas s a big wealthy state. They would pay big money to bring Disney and all that prestige to their state.

 

[disneyland_is_magic]

Has Newsom mention anything about rapid tests? Is that something he is willing to adjust to? I would think offering that as proposed protocol in a lawsuit (while continuing with masks, social distancing and reduced capicity) would make it very difficult for Newsom to defend.

And yes, I know these tests are not perfect but it's certainly another layer of protection and make the probability of spreading Covid even smaller.

 

[Julie Amber]

Sunny, no humidity, and a pretty good water wonderland = Lake Tahoe. Nevada would be much more tax friendly, too.

Clearly, you’re not familiar with Tahoe I’m the winter. You can’t even drive those roads most of the time and I’ve seen 20 foot snow banks on either side. Quite a rough place for a theme park to operate for sure

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I love the mental image of Disney literally picking up and moving Disneyland piece by piece to another state to spite California.

Thanks to you guys I’m picturing the Matterhorn going on a road trip.

Holiday roooooaaaaddddd, holiday rooooaaaaddd

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