Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[TwoMisfits]

The parks are not moving states...

Lots of things would have been impossible to believe before 2020...but we're not in Kansas, anymore, Toto...

I could start a list of the unbelievable things that have not just become believable, but have happened, so I discount nothing.

Things that can't go on, won't...and closed theme parks in CA can't go on long term...thus...

 

[jlwhitney]

I can't even process that DL wouldn't open until next summer at the earliest. I wonder if there is anything out there that would cause him to change his stance. How heartbreaking for all of the businesses and people who rely on tourism for their living.

so much can change between now and then a lot of which can’t be discussed here. But right now the big issue is the virus is novel it won’t be novel forever and whole yes further away from full herd immunity every bit more we go the harder for it to spread and also allows mutations that are weaker to have a better chance at taking over.

 

[Eric Smith]

Lots of things would have been impossible to believe before 2020...but we're not in Kansas, anymore, Toto...

I could start a list of the unbelievable things that have not just become believable, but have happened, so I discount nothing.

Things that can't go on, won't...and closed theme parks in CA can't go on long term...thus...

Do you have any idea how much it would cost to build two new theme parks from scratch? It’s not happening. Dallas also has a much worse climate than Southern California.

 

[rteetz]

Lots of things would have been impossible to believe before 2020...but we're not in Kansas, anymore, Toto...

I could start a list of the unbelievable things that have not just become believable, but have happened, so I discount nothing.

Things that can't go on, won't...and closed theme parks in CA can't go on long term...thus...

I am not saying its not possible but I think it would take a lot more to move them. I think some need to take a deep breath. Disney isn't the only company impacted by this and I am sure they are all talking about next steps. I do not believe in anyway moving operations out of the state is at the top.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

The parks are not moving states...

You’re right. We don’t have states in Canada

 

[gottalovepluto]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1318737950310617089

Honestly that sounds optimistic. It would require a vaccine not only approved by CA but also distributed through a large amount of the general population and working (the early vaccines require 2 doses). Even then they can still only open to 25% and only outdoor attractions. Which is a joke if you know DLR attractions.

Holidays 2021 is my optimistic take if DLR doesn’t try to fight back.

 

[rteetz]

if DLR doesn’t try to fight back.

And I would be shocked if they didn't.

 

[gottalovepluto]

I am not saying its not possible but I think it would take a lot more to move them. I think some need to take a deep breath. Disney isn't the only company impacted by this and I am sure they are all talking about next steps. I do not believe in anyway moving operations out of the state is at the top.

When I think about how much structural work has been done over the years on Matterhorn & SM... yeah. No. You can’t just dig it up, load it on trucks and hope the TX soil is the same as SoCal.

 

[Brianstl]

I am not saying its not possible but I think it would take a lot more to move them. I think some need to take a deep breath. Disney isn't the only company impacted by this and I am sure they are all talking about next steps. I do not believe in anyway moving operations out of the state is at the top.

What I do think could happen depending how long this plays out is Disney directing dollars originally intended for investment in the CA parks instead being shifted to parks in Florida.

 

[MickeyWaffles]

Lots of things would have been impossible to believe before 2020...but we're not in Kansas, anymore, Toto...

I could start a list of the unbelievable things that have not just become believable, but have happened, so I discount nothing.

Things that can't go on, won't...and closed theme parks in CA can't go on long term...thus...

You think with Disneyland shuttered they are going to build a couple of brand new parks somewhere? When construction on things at WDW is halted? Zero chance. Less than zero chance. If they can’t survive with Disneyland closed, they sure aren’t going to be building 2 new parks somewhere. Especially during a pandemic that has no end in sight yet. There’s incredible uncertainty and no sign of travel bouncing back anytime soon. That’s so short sighted. They aren’t making a huge decision like that.

Aside from this being absolutely impossible, can you imagine the uproar if they got rid of Walt’s park? Disneyland isn’t going anywhere.

Even moving HQ is a huge undertaking from a workforce and talent acquisition perspective. California is a strategic hub for them for many reasons and that’s not going to change because of this.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I love the mental image of Disney literally picking up and moving Disneyland piece by piece to another state to spite California.

Thanks to you guys I’m picturing the Matterhorn going on a road trip.

 

[gottalovepluto]

What I do think could happen depending how long this plays out is Disney directing dollars originally intended for investment in the CA parks instead being shifted to parks in Florida.

I think it would be shifted to The Walt Disney Company and then full stop. Don’t think FL would see it...

 

[andyman8]

Honestly that sounds optimistic. It would require a vaccine not only approved by CA but also distributed through a large amount of the general population and working (the early vaccines require 2 doses). Even then they can still only open to 25% and only outdoor attractions. Which is a joke if you know DLR attractions.

Holidays 2021 is my optimistic take if DLR doesn’t try to fight back.

Call me an optimist but if we have a vaccine approved by year’s end, it goes into distribution (which most of the candidates are already in to a certain extent) in early 2021, and they start distribution by March/April, I think a reopening at some point during summer is in the cards. But there’s a lot of it’s in that statement.

 

[DebbieB]

What I can't figure out is PA has a 2 week recommended quarantine list. I just finished mine from my Florida trip 2 weeks ago. California is not on the list.

My 9/30-10/6 was originally DL, we moved it to FL in August when it was apparent that they were not opening.

 

[Mit88]

Honestly that sounds optimistic. It would require a vaccine not only approved by CA but also distributed through a large amount of the general population and working (the early vaccines require 2 doses). Even then they can still only open to 25% and only outdoor attractions. Which is a joke if you know DLR attractions.

Holidays 2021 is my optimistic take if DLR doesn’t try to fight back.

You’d also have to get a certain part of the population to finally be open to the idea of vaccinations, which I think there’s a better chance of waking up tomorrow and these last 7 months were just a long vivid nightmare than for that to occur. If everyone isn’t taking the vaccine, or distribution the first year is light, and if the vaccine doesn’t take, which is the case with even the flu shot, then we’re talking a miracle for Disneyland to open by the summer AND stay open.

Honestly, I have a feeling the requirements will soften if the next few months go well. But even then I think the absolute earliest reopening time frame is still around Easter, which is absolutely mind boggling.

I guess Chapek spoke too soon when he said with certainty that DCL would be the last to come back on line. Still possible. But Disneyland is making it a competition

 

[rteetz]

What I do think could happen depending how long this plays out is Disney directing dollars originally intended for investment in the CA parks instead being shifted to parks in Florida.

Yes and no. Like you said it would really depend on length. Right now disney is doing bare minimum on both coasts as it is.

 

[skeeter31]

I really can’t believe people think Disney will up and move DL to another state, like it’s a carnival. People realize those buildings are actually foundation based and not trailers on blocks that can be hooked onto a semi and moved across country right? I get this is a rumors board, but let’s at least keep the rumors in the realm of human possibility.

 

[Mit88]

As stated by a tweet earlier, that has since been deleted, I absolutely believe Disney should be targeting Californians, and DL APs in particular to come to WDW. I know Californians are more cliquey with their park and basically don’t acknowledge the existence of WDW, but it’s something, and it’s better than what they’ve got. Stop sending passive aggressive messages to Newsom, take his residents and profit off of them.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I really can’t believe people think Disney will up and move DL to another state, like it’s a carnival. People realize those buildings are actually foundation based and not trailers on blocks that can be hooked onto a semi and moved across country right? I get this is a rumors board, but let’s at least keep the rumors in the realm of human possibility.

When it shows up here in a shopping mall parking lot in a Canadian city many Americans have never even heard of, you guys are all gonna look real silly.

 

[JenBush]

Disney completely abandoning California is a bit far fetched, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them pull back a little. Depending on how long this lasts I could see them slowly moving parts of HQ away. Only time will tell, and apparently reopening DL is going to take more time than I think we all expected.