Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[FatBambi]

Can I just say that everytime a twitter link gets posted, my heart stops?

 

[Spridell]

I'm not saying this would happen ... but I don't see the NBA deal tied to the parks opening. Could we potentially be in a situation where the only thing active on WDW property is the NBA and potential MLS stuff?

DVC would have to remain open as well

 

[Tjddis]

Of course he doesn't.

I’m just curious if this falls under the category off a skilled political professional using his experience to show leadership in a challenging situation?

 

[marinejjh]

Yeah I can’t see how the NBA can justify using up all these resources when the states trending in a bad direction very fast. As much as I want basketball back, there’s much more important things at stake here

I agree and with 16 players testing positive today, not including staff or coaches, I dont think they will ever make the trip.

 

[Friendlyadvice2]

DVC would have to remain open as well

DVC would NOT have to remain open if things are deemed unsafe. The POS specifically allows for this.

 

[rpb718]

Just reviewing the park availability calendar. No change on the resorts side, but the trends so far on the AP side are weekends filling up first for July and August. I'll assume Mondays & Fridays would start to fill up next followed by mid-week. DHS also is usually the first to show no availability with EPCOT usually being the last. The rate for MK and AK to fill up are almost identical - on the AP side at least. Nothing special around Labor Day yet, but eventually I expect that weekend to show availability changes soon.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I said on another thread the you could not pay me to go to FL right now. Not even a free trip to WDW would get me there.

100%

I hope people who do choose to go have a wonderful time and stay healthy and safe, but there is no way I would take my family there right now even though there is little I want more than to take our missed vacation.

 

[Wreckem]

Those 3 states are also where folks were outside all spring...and now head inside b/c the heat and/or humidity is too brutal in summer...it's a reversal from March where the folks in the north were inside with heat while those states were outside...

Plus, the protests, especially in TX, where they traced a huge outbreak to Houston's, didn't help...people together for hours in confined spaces seems to be a really bad idea (not that we didn't already know that...but now we really do)...

Of course, that also makes theme park lines even more problematic...

There are areas of Florida that didn’t see large protests that are still seeing massive spikes in new cases (even in relatively affluent areas). Ive been out and about a bit, and I believe County officials when they say the issue is noncompliance. People aren’t wearing masks and socially distancing, and it seems like the orders are not being effectively enforced (if there is such a way). After there was a local mask mandate put into place this week, our local mall was still not enforcing the requirement (even some security guards were not wearing masks). While the protests absolutely did not help and were a factor in recent upticks in some areas, assigning them a large chunk of responsibility for the recent spike is not only not reflected in the data but it also is unproductive as it doesn’t address the route of the problem: noncompliance.

It is not the protests that are driving the outbreaks. It is the bars. If it was the protests Chicago would have seen a spike, instead they have halved their daily cases since the protests started.

There is ample evidence, atleast in Texas, that show bars reopening lead to this outbreak. People went bars and clubs and from there it went everywhere. Florida is probably the same as there are multiple articles of outbreaks traced back to bars.

 

[Rosanne]

There are areas of Florida that didn’t see large protests that are still seeing massive spikes in new cases (even in relatively affluent areas). Ive been out and about a bit, and I believe County officials when they say the issue is noncompliance. People aren’t wearing masks and socially distancing, and it seems like the orders are not being effectively enforced (if there is such a way). After there was a local mask mandate put into place this week, our local mall was still not enforcing the requirement (even some security guards were not wearing masks). While the protests absolutely did not help and were a factor in recent upticks in some areas, assigning them a large chunk of responsibility for the recent spike is not only not reflected in the data but it also is unproductive as it doesn’t address the route of the problem: noncompliance.

Totally agree with this. If compliance is enforced, along with health checks and social distancing, risk is very low.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Friendly reminder that even though the numbers are looking scarier now, there has always been very real risk to consider when traveling during a pandemic and anyone who has been planning to go this summer should be prepared for anything.

 

[SaintsManiac]

It is not the protests that are driving the outbreaks. It is the bars. If it was the protests Chicago would have seen a spike, instead they have halved their daily cases since the protests started.

There is ample evidence, atleast in Texas, that show bars reopening lead to this outbreak. People went bars and clubs and from there it went everywhere. Florida is probably the same as there are multiple articles of outbreaks traced back to bars.

Same here in Louisiana. They traced the outbreaks to indoor parties and bars. And I can tell you that not many people around me wear masks. I have to sit in my car while my kid has her swim sessions, because the people sitting in the waiting area don't have masks on.

 

[cakebaker]

We had large protests for 2 weeks straight throughout South Florida where some mask were being worn but most not and social distancing is non existent. The media does not want to correlate the two because it doesn’t fit the social narrative

There were many states where there were massive protests that aren’t seeing this kind of spike or any spike at all. Protests here were minimal and small and we’re spiking.

Blaming the protests is the easy way out, but it’s not the cause. Opening too quickly, and a stubborn refusal to comply with safety suggestions is the reason.

 

[Spridell]

DVC would NOT have to remain open if things are deemed unsafe. The POS specifically allows for this.

There would have to be an order or State of Emergency ordered from Orange County or From state of Florida saying things are unsafe. Disney deciding on their OWN to close is NOT good enough reason to close DVC.

This has been discussed in the DVC forums and can continue discussing on those threads if you want. Dont want to take up the space on this forum.

 

[Friendlyadvice2]

There would have to be an order or State of Emergency ordered from Orange County or From state of Florida saying things are unsafe. Disney deciding on their OWN to close is NOT good enough reason to close DVC.

This has been discussed in the DVC forums and can continue discussing on those threads if you want. Dont want to take up the space on this forum.

This is completely legally untrue and I've seen the discussions. Don't want to take up space either, but I will point out what's inaccurate.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

There were many states where there were massive protests that aren’t seeing this kind of spike or any spike at all. Protests here were minimal and small and we’re spiking.

Blaming the protests is the easy way out, but it’s not the cause. Opening too quickly, and a stubborn refusal to comply with safety suggestions is the reason.

100%

States that opened early (FL, TX) are the ones closing back down now.

 

[Gus_Gus]

Not sure if posted. Would this impact DS or DSW?

“Halsey Beshears, the secretary of the Florida Department of Business & Professional Regulation, announced on Twitter that on premises consumption of alcohol has now been suspended at bars all across the state.
The order goes into effect immediately.”

 

[Janet McDonald]

I don’t remember where I saw this, but I had read that on Thursday (yesterday). That there were going to be a surge of tests done and this had been planned to have like an open testing for any that wanted etc. I had read this before Thursday and had told myself to expect big positive numbers for yesterday. After today’s Number’s were posted I sought to find out the numbers and there were over 70,000 tests done yesterday, but in previous days just over 30,000 I believe. The percentage is of course concerning. I’m wondering if the amount of tests given today will go back to around the 30,000 mark.
Also spoke to an agent in Florida that said he expects Disney to still open. He said the reason being is Disney/universal are some
Of the safest places to actually be due to how strictly guidelines are enforced and they will continue to enforce safely. I am no expect at all just passing along my thoughts and a conversation.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

The surge is not related to testing. New York does more testing than anyone. Our positive rate is 1%. Florida's is 13%

 

[Wreckem]

Not sure if posted. Would this impact DS or DSW?

“Halsey Beshears, the secretary of the Florida Department of Business & Professional Regulation, announced on Twitter that on premises consumption of alcohol has now been suspended at bars all across the state.
The order goes into effect immediately.”

It does any establishment that is primarily a bar has to be shut done. Disney doesn’t have many of those so, it’s not that big of impact.

 

[midnight star]

Not sure if posted. Would this impact DS or DSW?

“Halsey Beshears, the secretary of the Florida Department of Business & Professional Regulation, announced on Twitter that on premises consumption of alcohol has now been suspended at bars all across the state.
The order goes into effect immediately.”

Yes someone posted a few pages back. The thread just moves fast lol