Considering canceling August trip following FL handling of Trayvon Martin murder.

[akhenaten]

I also agree with the law and do not wish to make this thread into another Martin/Zimmerman thread. That being said, the bolded bit is in error.

In order to convict, the prosecution needs to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. The defense merely needs to get one juror to have reasonable doubt.

and my argument would be that n either case. it is too late at that point. If the law makes someone more likely to use deadly force... an innocent is already dead and nothing will bring him/her back... like this father, David James
http://www.ksdk.com/news/world/arti...Stand-Your-Ground-law-is-free-pass-for-murder

 

[Jennasis]

Oh dear. I see jazz hands in the near future...

 

[Mkrop]

I also agree with the law and do not wish to make this thread into another Martin/Zimmerman thread. That being said, the bolded bit is in error.

In order to convict, the prosecution needs to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. The defense merely needs to get one juror to have reasonable doubt.

I stand corrected! But isnt it true that I can claim any defense I want, but if the prosecution can prove that this is not true or doesnt apply to my case then it doesnt matter?

Really? Because in all of the discussion boards I was involved with it was the people defending RL that did not bother to research what she actually testified to... but that is another thread.. (most likely a locked one ..LOL)

Not to go off topic, but I didnt get into here was too busy during that time to log on here, but I discuss this on FB with some people who were woefully misinformed about who the person was that was testfying, the fact that Georgetown is Catholic, what exactly Rush said, and the fact that there have been people on the other side of the aisle who have said nasty things about woman and no one boycotted them or their sponsors or called them on it. I dont like Rush, I am not defending Rush words,if he went off the air I would not care, I somtimes think he does more harm than good for the conservative cause. I am merely pointing out since you brought it up that people react and claim boycott out of emotion when they do not have all the facts of the case, like I saw people do with the RL situation.

 

[snapppyd]

I woke up in NY this morning. I looked out the window and saw a rainbow with a unicorn dancing over it. After I had my lollipop for breakfast I decided, what the heck, I'm going to Disney!

 

[akhenaten]

I stand corrected! But isnt it true that I can claim any defense I want, but if the prosecution can prove that this is not true or doesnt apply to my case then it doesnt matter?



Not to go off topic, but I didnt get into here was too busy during that time to log on here, but I discuss this on FB with some people who were woefully misinformed about who the person was that was testfying, the fact that Georgetown is Catholic, what exactly Rush said, and the fact that there have been people on the other side of the aisle who have said nasty things about woman and no one boycotted them or their sponsors or called them on it. I dont like Rush, I am not defending Rush words,if he went off the air I would not care, I somtimes think he does more harm than good for the conservative cause. I am merely pointing out since you brought it up that people react and claim boycott out of emotion when they do not have all the facts of the case, like I saw people do with the RL situation.

I would absolutely agree that RL does more harm than good for the conservative cause... and there are others on the left who are harmful to the liberal cause..

 

[marcyinPA]

This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. Seriously.

MTE

 

[sbell111]

I stand corrected! But isnt it true that I can claim any defense I want, but if the prosecution can prove that this is not true or doesnt apply to my case then it doesnt matter?

That is basically correct. A defendant can put up most anything as a defense. If it's too 'out there', the judge may step in and disallow it, however.

It is the prosecution's responsibility to prove the case, which includes punching holes in the defense's arguments. The prosecution is successful in proving their case (and disproving the defense's claims) if the entire jury agrees with them beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

[Ilivetogo]

This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. Seriously.

This.

.

 

[Mkrop]

I would absolutely agree that RL does more harm than good for the conservative cause... and there are others on the left who are harmful to the liberal cause..

That is basically correct. A defendant can put up most anything as a defense. If it's too 'out there', the judge may step in and disallow it, however.

It is the prosecution's responsibility to prove the case, which includes punching holes in the defense's arguments. The prosecution is successful in proving their case (and disproving the defense's claims) if the entire jury agrees with them beyond a reasonable doubt.

Thanks for the law lesson!

 

[dngnb8]

This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. Seriously.

Not really. The other thread was locked with a warning that starting it over is against the rules.

The topic is about not going on vaca because of what happened. OP knew the thread would deteriorate into what happened, and as such, is not responsible points wise for starting the topic over.

 

[LisaR]

I woke up in NY this morning. I looked out the window and saw a rainbow with a unicorn dancing over it. After I had my lollipop for breakfast I decided, what the heck, I'm going to Disney!

Not really. The other thread was locked with a warning that starting it over is against the rules.

The topic is about not going on vaca because of what happened. OP knew the thread would deteriorate into what happened, and as such, is not responsible points wise for starting the topic over.

 

[luvmy3]

Anyone else got the Visit Sarasota banner up top

OP, I'm not going to tell you its ridiculous for you to cancel your vacation, if that is what you feel you need to do to take a stand against something you don't agree with, the go for it. If I'm lucky there will be alot of people who feel that way, and cancel their trip for next week when I'll be there

 

[tevisco4]

Wow, then it looks like you will never be traveling again...all states have their problems and issues.
Stay FAR FAR away from Illinois then.

 

[Mkrop]

Wow, then it looks like you will never be traveling again...all states have their problems and issues.
Stay FAR FAR away from Illinois then.

Or DC!!!!

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Time to use this law to our advantage. Go to the Magic Kingdom and cut every line. Then when someone tries to stop us, shoot them!

 

[sbell111]

Time to use this law to our advantage. Go to the Magic Kingdom and cut every line. Then when someone tries to stop us, shoot them!

I realize that you are trying, in your own way, to be funny. That being said, WDW does not allow handguns in the parks. If you were to bring one in, you'd be in violation of your CWP and, therefore, not covered by the 'stand your 'ground' law.

 

[PrincessKsMom]

I realize that you are trying, in your own way, to be funny. That being said, WDW does not allow handguns in the parks. If you were to bring one in, you'd be in violation of your CWP and, therefore, not covered by the 'stand your 'ground' law.

I realize that you are trying, in your own way, to be helpful. That being said, are you serious? I don't think you needed explain that, nor was I advocating anyone do as my post indicated. It was simply yet another ridiculous post on an already ridiculous thread. And if there's anyone out there who might have thought I was serious, please seek immediate psychiatric help and for the sake of others, stay home.

 

[Art 1]

I honestly can't reconcile bringing NY dollars to spend in the state after this travesty.

YYYAAAwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn.

 

[snapppyd]

I realize that you are trying, in your own way, to be helpful. That being said, are you serious? I don't think you needed explain that, nor was I advocating anyone do as my post indicated. It was simply yet another ridiculous post on an already ridiculous thread. And if there's anyone out there who might have thought I was serious, please seek immediate psychiatric help and for the sake of others, stay home.

Really, like you needed to explain!

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Really, like you needed to explain!

Apparently we are in danger of people actually believing you saw a unicorn and rainbow this morning.