CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[jlwhitney]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/17/coronavirus-live-updates.html
So apparently pfizer is saying that there isn't production issues and that states are communicating correctly with them

 

[dvcgirl67]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/17/coronavirus-live-updates.html
So apparently pfizer is saying that there isn't production issues and that states are communicating correctly with them

Yup, just saw this. I thought there would be hiccups as this program rolled out. Hopefully it'll get better in the coming weeks.

 

[Pyotr]

3 serious adverse events for the vaccine group in the Moderna study. One poor volunteer was struck by lightning.

 

[aggiedog]

Don't tell anyone about the lightning strike. That should give the anti-vaxers plenty of ammunition. LOL

 

[anniemae]

What has happened with AZ vaccine? I read it is only 70% effective.

Lots of promise for J & J, but don't think it will be available for a while. It is one dose and does not need special refrigeration.

Will we have a choice? I don't want a 70% effective vaccine if a 95% effective one is available.

 

[Diznotyzed]

What has happened with AZ vaccine? I read it is only 70% effective.

Lots of promise for J & J, but don't think it will be available for a while. It is one dose and does not need special refrigeration.

Will we have a choice? I don't want a 70% effective vaccine if a 95% effective one is available.

I don't know much about any vaccine trial, except that my brother-in-law and his wife were vaccinated just yesterday in Vermont in the Astra Zeneca stage three trial.

 

[RamblingMad]

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3 serious adverse events for the vaccine group in the Moderna study. One poor volunteer was struck by lightning.

I know people that have been struck by lightning hiking above the tree line. Now, they probably shouldn't get the vaccine if it increases their likelihood of getting struck again

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Don't tell anyone about the lightning strike. That should give the anti-vaxers plenty of ammunition. LOL

I can hear them now claiming they put something in the vaccine that attracts lightning. It's probably the microchip. Now the government can target who they want to take out by lightning.

 

[RamblingMad]

I can hear them now claiming they put something in the vaccine that attracts lightning. It's probably the microchip. Now the government can target who they want to take out by lightning.

This finally explains that kid from that old TV show: Misfits of Science.

 

[NotUrsula]

McClatchy is reporting that the "shortages" or "delays" that states thought were on Pfizer's end were in fact fictional, because the amounts that the states thought were promised by the Federal task force apparently were never real. According to the story, the months-old estimated numbers that were used as sample data to set up the system and populate the training modules were not updated with actual stock production data before the date that the first shipments were dispatched. When the states were making plans and requests based on the availability they saw in the request database, they were unaware that it was training data that they were looking at. So, when the real data was loaded in and the numbers dropped, it came as a shock.

This is the story: https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles...cle_cdaa21b6-69e4-5eae-83df-206d55a321a8.html

 

[tippity]

What has happened with AZ vaccine? I read it is only 70% effective.

Lots of promise for J & J, but don't think it will be available for a while. It is one dose and does not need special refrigeration.

Will we have a choice? I don't want a 70% effective vaccine if a 95% effective one is available.

AZ vaccine needs to be refrigerated and in Phase III trials it is 2 shots. Phase III hasn't completed enrollment.

 

[snappy]

In my local paper this morning, the extra doses in the vials of Pfizer vaccine are being called “angel doses.” I kind of like the sound of that. Being from Louisiana they also call them “lagniappe.”

 

[RamblingMad]

In my local paper this morning, the extra doses in the vials of Pfizer vaccine are being called “angel doses.” I kind of like the sound of that. Being from Louisiana they also call them “lagniappe.”

Because you better hope to God that you get enough for it to count?

 

[DopeyDame]

McClatchy is reporting that the "shortages" or "delays" that states thought were on Pfizer's end were in fact fictional, because the amounts that the states thought were promised by the Federal task force apparently were never real. According to the story, the months-old estimated numbers that were used as sample data to set up the system and populate the training modules were not updated with actual stock production data before the date that the first shipments were dispatched. When the states were making plans and requests based on the availability they saw in the request database, they were unaware that it was training data that they were looking at. So, when the real data was loaded in and the numbers dropped, it came as a shock.

This is the story: https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles...cle_cdaa21b6-69e4-5eae-83df-206d55a321a8.html

There are just more ways to screw this up than I even thought possible. Who the hell has the training data and the live data in the same system???
Didn't we all learn not to do that in War Games?

 

[okeydokey]

I am not at all surprised at problems in the distribution of the vaccine. It is a huge undertaking, the largest we have ever seen and it takes a lot of coordination between many different groups. We just need to keep working at it. It's a marathon, not a sprint and in the end I am sure it will be successful.

 

[gwynne]

I am not at all surprised at problems in the distribution of the vaccine. It is a huge undertaking, the largest we have ever seen and it takes a lot of coordination between many different groups. We just need to keep working at it. It's a marathon, not a sprint and in the end I am sure it will be successful.

I was relieved the problems aren't coming from Pfizer.
Maybe the folks handling warehouse to the states distribution should employ more highly qualified logistics professionals.

 

[godisney14]

What has happened with AZ vaccine? I read it is only 70% effective.

Lots of promise for J & J, but don't think it will be available for a while. It is one dose and does not need special refrigeration.

Will we have a choice? I don't want a 70% effective vaccine if a 95% effective one is available.

AZ vaccine needs to be refrigerated and in Phase III trials it is 2 shots. Phase III hasn't completed enrollment.

AZ/Oxford may even need to do a new trial in the US because of the inconclusive prelim data from the half-dose “mistake”. They could apply for EUA next year (likely in March or so) based on whatever results come out of the 2 full dose trial, which prelim data showed ~62% effectiveness. The current AZ trial in the US is for the full 2-dose regimen.
The mistake half-dose that had over 90% effectiveness was only given to a fraction of the vaccine group and it was only given to those under 55 years old. They won’t get any approval for this half-dose regimen until a proper trial is completed, and they have yet to start one as of what I know thus far.

 

[huskies90]

FDA cleared...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/18/health/covid-vaccine-fda-moderna.html

 

[aggiedog]

Yup, which is great news because it means smaller and rural hospitals without the extreme freezer capability can receive doses. Like my hospital, next week. Woo hoo. Just 100 doses, but it's a start.

 

[Jonfw2]

Hey fam.