Cast Member Steals Phone

[SharonLowe]

If you read her captions as well as her comments, she never actually states that Nelson stole her phone in the FB Album. Her first caption reads:



She is very careful to refer to it as her "stolen iPhone" and that Nelson has it.

There was really no defamation involved with her referring to the two costumed women with Nelson as hookers. They are dressed as Pirate wenches and historically they were prostitutes(hookers).

FYI - Libel is written defamation and slander is spoken.

She has no proof that Nelson "has" her phone - he was just in some of the photos, as were a lot of other people. How does she know the girl is "Nelson's girlfriend" unless she knows Nelson??? She makes a lot of statements about Nelson with no proof that he did anything other than have his photo taken. I think there is something really fishy going on and she is treading on thin ice as are the 12000+ people who have shared this all over Facebook. Some lawyer might be very happy to clear Nelson's name if he had nothing to do with it.

And, just because something shows up in the newspaper, doesn't prove her story either.

 

[UmmGooD]

She has no proof that Nelson "has" her phone - he was just in some of the photos, as were a lot of other people. How does she know the girl is "Nelson's girlfriend" unless she knows Nelson??? She makes a lot of statements about Nelson with no proof that he did anything other than have his photo taken. I think there is something really fishy going on and she is treading on thin ice as are the 12000+ people who have shared this all over Facebook. Some lawyer might be very happy to clear Nelson's name if he had nothing to do with it.

And, just because something shows up in the newspaper, doesn't prove her story either.

His facebook page has her listed as his 'fiancee'.

Given she is in private in some of the photos and it appears they are a couple from the photos and his facebook site I think it is a reasonable assumption that she is his partner.

As far as memory cards for camera. I shoot with a Canon 50D and I go through about 100GB of photos on a vacation. In my case I cannot fit my photos on memory cards or CD's. I need to have a laptop with external drive because my laptop cannot contain all of my photos. I have a network attached storage at home I use for my photos. Yes for most cameras you can get by with a 15 dollar memory card but I have seen lots of people on cruises who have gear like mine and they need a laptop.

As far as my laptop goes I have left it out and I haven't had a problem. Most crimes are crimes of opportunity. A $600 phone is easily stashed in a pocket and the person doing the theft can walk out unnoticed. A 17 inch Macbook Pro is a little harder to be sly with. When I am in an unknown hotel on a business trip all of my small gear (iPad, phone, passport, external drives) go into the safe. My laptop goes under my clothes in a drawer or my luggage and I have never had someone steal something out of there. If you leave it out you run the risk.

 

[Alexander]

I'm sorry, but not everything can be stored in a safe. Some of my clothes are worth more than my phone, should I stuff them in the safe? Let's see...laptop, iPods, phones, cameras, passports, id, cash, jewelry....you can't put it all in those little safes. If your stateroom or hotel room is locked, you should be assured that your belongings are not going to be stolen by an employee of your hotel or cruiseline. I cannot believe that some of you are stating that if it is left in plain sight, you are inviting someone to steal it! Wow! So if I have my child sitting in a lounge chair by the pool am I inviting someone to kidnap him? Do we live in a perfect world? Of course not, but accusing the owners of items of somehow being at fault that their valuables are stolen is just plain wrong!

You people must be from NJ where they now want to hold the person who sent a text accountable if the recipient has an accident while reading your text!

 

[Pesky]

Generally speaking the simplest explanation is usually the truth. So given the inordinate amount of photos of N, likely he either took it himself or got it knowing it was likely stolen property. Not sure we'll ever hear the results of the investigation given confidentiality concerns.

 

[Zandy595]

His facebook page has her listed as his 'fiancee'.

Given she is in private in some of the photos and it appears they are a couple from the photos and his facebook site I think it is a reasonable assumption that she is his partner.

You've been to his facebook page?

 

[Wadekind]

His facebook page has her listed as his 'fiancee'.

Given she is in private in some of the photos and it appears they are a couple from the photos and his facebook site I think it is a reasonable assumption that she is his partner.

As far as memory cards for camera. I shoot with a Canon 50D and I go through about 100GB of photos on a vacation. In my case I cannot fit my photos on memory cards or CD's. I need to have a laptop with external drive because my laptop cannot contain all of my photos. I have a network attached storage at home I use for my photos. Yes for most cameras you can get by with a 15 dollar memory card but I have seen lots of people on cruises who have gear like mine and they need a laptop.

As far as my laptop goes I have left it out and I haven't had a problem. Most crimes are crimes of opportunity. A $600 phone is easily stashed in a pocket and the person doing the theft can walk out unnoticed. A 17 inch Macbook Pro is a little harder to be sly with. When I am in an unknown hotel on a business trip all of my small gear (iPad, phone, passport, external drives) go into the safe. My laptop goes under my clothes in a drawer or my luggage and I have never had someone steal something out of there. If you leave it out you run the risk.

100gb=102,400mb. Uncompressed RAW +Jpeg = about 1.5mb per mp. At 15mp you would have over 4500 pictures per 100gb of space. Jpeg= .3mb/mp = 22,700 pictures

I don't think you are typical even for people who have your gear. (nice gear though) I can't imagine how long it would take to process 4500 RAW images.

 

[maggs1035]

This story was on the today show!!!

 

[lmhall2000]

did i miss something? how do we know it was 'nelson' who took it? he could be the innocent bystander who happens to be a friend of the person who took it. maybe nelson did not know. i posted a few pages ago, if it wasn't nelson who took it then we are accusing someone who people will continue to see onboard but will have prejudged.
sorry if i missed something. i know someone took/found it but was it in fact nelson???

Today was reported Nelson has been put on leave and Disney has confiscated the phone...sounds good to me!

 

[DreamGirl90]

Doesn't matter if it's a possession or person, you are still implying that it's the victims fault for "leaving valuables in full view" because it can be tempting to the "have nots". That's some backwards logic, IMO.

Not the "fault" of the victim but she MAY have "enabled" the crime. ANY authorities be it DCL security, your local police or top federal agents would ALL agree that to leave valuables "lying around" IS "inviting" theft. That is not just my opinion. It is the general opinion of the legal system so is certainly not "backwards logic." If I left my phone or laptop on a desk or otherwise visible and left the room and it was stolen, I'd cry "theft" and rightfully so, but I'd also realize that I made a stupid mistake that resulted in a crime that could have been avoided had I placed it in the safe. The thief would still be guilty but I'd have had a part in enabling him to easily carry out his crime. Those who don't think so are free to leave all their valuables in plain sight in their rooms when cruising. I am at your own backwards logic. We are each entitled.

You can flame me all you want, but I won't be here to see it. I will now leave the thread and stop treading on such eggshell territory.

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

Not the "fault" of the victim but she MAY have "enabled" the crime. ANY authorities be it DCL security, your local police or top federal agents would ALL agree that to leave valuables "lying around" IS "inviting" theft. That is not just my opinion. It is the general opinion of the legal system so is certainly not "backwards logic." If I left my phone or laptop on a desk or otherwise visible and left the room and it was stolen, I'd cry "theft" and rightfully so, but I'd also realize that I made a stupid mistake that resulted in a crime that could have been avoided had I placed it in the safe. The thief would still be guilty but I'd have had a part in enabling him to easily carry out his crime. Those who don't think so are free to leave all their valuables in plain sight in their rooms when cruising. I am at your own backwards logic. We are each entitled.

You can flame me all you want, but I won't be here to see it. I will now leave the thread and stop treading on such eggshell territory.

I've been on 7 DCL cruises and have always left my phones (one personal, one work) on the desk. Cameras, when not in use, are also on the desk. No one has every stolen anything. I guess I'm the type that "invite theft". Hmm. Never have used that safe once.

 

[pxlbarrel]

I think people are getting a bit worked up about nothing here... ie, nobody's accusing anybody of letting their stuff get stolen because they left it out. There's probably a good chance your stuff will always be there when you come back no matter how often you leave it out .... BUT, it's always a good idea to put valuables in the safe (if they can) or out of sight when you're not in the room. It's not only crew members you're watching out for it's other passengers. How many times, in a hotel for example, do you see the doors propped open while the room is being cleaned but there's no housekeeper in sight? It's just a precaution... why make it easy for the criminals?

It's like if I leave my house and leave all my windows open because I want the house to remain cool, I'm not inviting people in but I've just given them a huge advantage in robbing my house. If you look at my unsecured house and the locked up one next door, as a thief ... which one would you go for? You always want to make it harder for somebody to steal from you, not easier.

 

[sbell111]

if it wasn't nelson who took it then we are accusing someone who people will continue to see onboard but will have prejudged.

There's not much risk of that. DCL recovered the phone. They likely obtained it because it was on the person of a cast member or in his/her gear. You can be pretty darb gone sure that the individual will never again be seen aboar a DCL ship.

As far as memory cards for camera. I shoot with a Canon 50D and I go through about 100GB of photos on a vacation. In my case I cannot fit my photos on memory cards or CD's.

Granted, I still shoot with my old 20d because it just refuses to give me an excuse to replace it, but your comment that your pics won't fit on memory cards confuses me, since they are on memory cards in the camera. By my math, you can get about 500 RAW images on a 8gb card. Even if you were taking 2000 pics a day and going through 4 cards a day (on vacation!), the total number of resulting cards is manageable.

I actually prefer it this way. I bring enough memory cards with me for the entire trip and mark each card with the date (and sequence throughout the day). This allows me to go through the photos very easily when I get home and doesn't have me wasting time transferring and organizing photos while on vacation.

 

[peachygreen]

There's not much risk of that. DCL recovered the phone. They likely obtained it because it was on the person of a cast member or in his/her gear. You can be pretty darb gone sure that the individual will never again be seen aboar a DCL ship.

Granted, I still shoot with my old 20d because it just refuses to give me an excuse to replace it, but your comment that your pics won't fit on memory cards confuses me, since they are on memory cards in the camera. By my math, you can get about 500 RAW images on a 8gb card. Even if you were taking 2000 pics a day and going through 4 cards a day (on vacation!), the total number of resulting cards is manageable.

I actually prefer it this way. I bring enough memory cards with me for the entire trip and mark each card with the date (and sequence throughout the day). This allows me to go through the photos very easily when I get home and doesn't have me wasting time transferring and organizing photos while on vacation.

I'm personally paranoid about losing memory cards and tend to want to back up pictures from the memory card tosomething more substantial on a daily basis. I don't delete from the memory cards this just gives me 2 locations until I can get home and backup said pictures. I've talked to too many people who have lost their camera and or memory card on vacation and lost a weeks worth of photos. This way I lose at most a day and hopefully much less.

 

[Hygiene99]

Actually, it says a crew member has been busted. It could be Nelson or it could be Nelson's incredibly Nelson-obsessed stalker.

Nelson was detained.

 

[BelleBway]

I'm personally paranoid about losing memory cards and tend to want to back up pictures from the memory card tosomething more substantial on a daily basis. I don't delete from the memory cards this just gives me 2 locations until I can get home and backup said pictures. I've talked to too many people who have lost their camera and or memory card on vacation and lost a weeks worth of photos. This way I lose at most a day and hopefully much less.

I do the same; photos are my most important souvenirs from wherever I travel. And this practice held me in good stead a couple years ago when a monkey stole one of my memory cards.

Although I guess some might say it was my fault since leaving the memory card in a baggie on my bed in a Kenya hotel room was clearly inviting a monkey to come into the room and steal it.

(yes, this really happened...)

 

[peachygreen]

I do the same; photos are my most important souvenirs from wherever I travel. And this practice held me in good stead a couple years ago when a monkey stole one of my memory cards.

Although I guess some might say it was my fault since leaving the memory card in a baggie on my bed in a Kenya hotel room was clearly inviting a monkey to come into the room and steal it.

(yes, this really happened...)

What were you thinking Obviously you should have planned better than that. Everyone should expect a monkey to steel their stuff off their bed. (Enter extreme sarcasm here)

 

[lark]

Wow -- leave it to disboards to turn a funny story about technology in 2012 and some clever facebooking into a fight.

Some of you guys will fight about anything.

 

[woody73]

. . . Everyone should expect a monkey to steel their stuff off their bed.

I caught a towel monkey wearing MY sunglasses.

Woody

 

[skohrs]

I've seen much more interesting threads shut down much quicker by the moderators when the discussion devolved into this kind of vitriol that was going nowhere. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet.

 

[lark]

I've seen much more interesting threads shut down much quicker by the moderators when the discussion devolved into this kind of vitriol that was going nowhere. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet.

I think it's a topic that's totally worthy of disboards too -- it happened on a disney ship, there are some interesting pictures of places we don't usually get to see in the facebook links, and it's a modest look at the lives of cast members and stuff they find themselves involved in.

But it probably will and probably should get closed, since we can't seem to control ourselves.