Car slams into parade in WI

[Sinder]

Relax people he was talking about the prosecutors and judges, not all the people living in the entire state.

 

[punkin]

Do we know what this guy was even doing in Waukesha? Seems like his rap sheet is from Milwaukee and Las Vegas.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Do we know what this guy was even doing in Waukesha? Seems like his rap sheep is from Milwaukee and Las Vegas.

I'm not sure if a whole lot is know about the guy other than his arrest record.

 

[dominiondad]

That’s what I’ve always thought so was surprised to read that part about “anytime after the 20 years”.

In our case, all 4 felony convictions are being served concurrently. A large part has to do with some lax sentencing laws in my state.

In Ohio, Ralph Lynch was convicted in 1998 of raping and murdering a 6 year-old girl. He admitted to the crime and led police to the body, so there's no question of his guilt. Ohio's executions are scheduled out until 2025, he's not on the list. 27 years so far. The details of his crime are available on the internet. I suggest you not read them. Our sentencing in this country is becoming a joke.

 

[GreatLakes]

I don't think there is any doubt that our justice system failed the community here. This guy has enough history that he should have been in prison and not mowing down children with his car. Lean sentencing for non-violent crimes like theft are one thing, deciding that weak sentences are a good idea for violent repeat offenders is not good for the community whether it is Wisconsin, California, or anywhere else.

 

[JimMIA]

There is a BIG difference between Milwaukee and Waukesha counties. I’m sorry, but it really irritates me when people paint an entire state with the same brush. There is a lot more to Wisconsin than Milwaukee. And that is coming from someone who has lived in Wisconsin for 42 years (10 in Milwaukee, 11 in Waukesha, the rest in Waukesha county).

Sure, and there's a lot more to Illinois than Chicago, a big difference between St. Louis and Missouri, big difference between Kansas City, KA and the rest of Kansas -- and a big difference between Miami and the rest of Florida.

Unfortunately, the good people can't separate themselves from the bad from the big cities -- as we saw in this case, and in so many other cases.

Also, the priorities of the big cities sometimes outweigh those of the rest of the state because so much of the population is concentrated in the cities. We are fortunate that particular problem is not true in Florida, but it is true in many states where the tail of the big city wags the dog of the rest of the state.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

In Ohio, Ralph Lynch was convicted in 1998 of raping and murdering a 6 year-old girl. He admitted to the crime and led police to the body, so there's no question of his guilt. Ohio's executions are scheduled out until 2025, he's not on the list. 27 years so far. The details of his crime are available on the internet. I suggest you not read them. Our sentencing in this country is becoming a joke.

Oh I know. I sat through a lot of the court case (in my cousin’s case). Because of previous convictions, it was an automatic 2nd degree murder charge. He admitted to crashing into her. He admitted to drinking. He still pled not guilty. Thankfully a jury of his peers disagreed. 6 years isn’t enough and it will never bring her back, but it’s something. We can only be thankful he didn’t walk on this one, which was entirely possible.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

Sure, and there's a lot more to Illinois than Chicago, a big difference between St. Louis and Missouri, big difference between Kansas City, KA and the rest of Kansas -- and a big difference between Miami and the rest of Florida.

Unfortunately, the good people can't separate themselves from the bad from the big cities -- as we saw in this case, and in so many other cases.

Also, the priorities of the big cities sometimes outweigh those of the rest of the state because so much of the population is concentrated in the cities. We are fortunate that particular problem is not true in Florida, but it is true in many states where the tail of the big city wags the dog of the rest of the state.

I agree with you. California is a large state, with a huge, diverse population (and really different living north to south and west to east) and yet we all get lumped together. It’s human nature to do.

 

[JimMIA]

I agree with you. California is a large state, with a huge, diverse population (and really different living north to south and west to east) and yet we all get lumped together. It’s human nature to do.

Sure, and you even have that locally. There are areas of every big city which are spectacular to live in, and areas where it's very risky to go outdoors.

Here in South Florida, we live in a very nice, safe suburb, but there are areas of Miami where there are 2-3 murders per week (seems like daily). We even have one city most people call Murder Gardens instead of Miami Gardens -- and we're not kidding. The same is true to the Broward County area to our north -- many really nice neighborhoods, many terrible neighborhoods.

 

[penn19]

Sure, and you even have that locally. There are areas of every big city which are spectacular to live in, and areas where it's very risky to go outdoors.

Here in South Florida, we live in a very nice, safe suburb, but there are areas of Miami where there are 2-3 murders per week (seems like daily). We even have one city most people call Murder Gardens instead of Miami Gardens -- and we're not kidding. The same is true to the Broward County area to our north -- many really nice neighborhoods, many terrible neighborhoods.

Yes! I used to live in Broward County and even from one street to another there can be a big difference in crime.

 

[JimMIA]

Do we know what this guy was even doing in Waukesha? Seems like his rap sheet is from Milwaukee and Las Vegas.

Waukesha is only about 20 miles from Milwaukee. The Dancing Grannies are also from Milwaukee, and I believe 3-4 of their members were among those killed.

 

[Bianca and Bernard]

Sure, and you even have that locally. There are areas of every big city which are spectacular to live in, and areas where it's very risky to go outdoors.

Here in South Florida, we live in a very nice, safe suburb, but there are areas of Miami where there are 2-3 murders per week (seems like daily). We even have one city most people call Murder Gardens instead of Miami Gardens -- and we're not kidding. The same is true to the Broward County area to our north -- many really nice neighborhoods, many terrible neighborhoods.

Same here in Jacksonville. Northside/Westside have more shootings than the Southside. There are also more apartment buildings that need to be or have been closed because of how poorly they've been maintained; fewer grocery stores on those sides of town; fewer hospitals, and the ones closer are in poorer shape than the ones further south.

 

[Heigh-Ho]

This is awful and terrible

Many things went wrong that led up to this even happening.

The pictures of him gave me a creepy chilly feeling

What's the word on how the victims are doing in the hospital? I saw a 6th victim sadly passed

 

[JimMIA]

This is awful and terrible

Many things went wrong that led up to this even happening.

The pictures of him gave me a creepy chilly feeling

What's the word on how the victims are doing in the hospital? I saw a 6th victim sadly passed

According to CNN, there were more than a dozen still hospitalized as of two days ago. Five children remain in critical condition, and I believe this story also says one adult is in critical.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/25/us/waukesha-car-parade-thursday/index.html

 

[JimMIA]

The hospitalized children are apparently improving. I believe 6 of the 7 remaining in the hospital were originally in critical condition, but I just saw this in the news:

"At least 62 people were injured in total and seven children are still in the hospital, according to Children's Wisconsin. Three of the hospitalized children are in serious condition, while three are in fair condition and one is in good condition."

 

[punkin]

The hospitalized children are apparently improving. I believe 6 of the 7 remaining in the hospital were originally in critical condition, but I just saw this in the news:

"At least 62 people were injured in total and seven children are still in the hospital, according to Children's Wisconsin. Three of the hospitalized children are in serious condition, while three are in fair condition and one is in good condition."

I'm glad to hear that. I'm praying for everyone affected.

 

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[punkin]

So the Milwaukee DA who was literally elected on promises of getting rid of cash bail is now blaming a subordinate's "human error."

 

[JimMIA]

So the Milwaukee DA who was literally elected on promises of getting rid of cash bail is now blaming a subordinate's "human error."

You mean statements like this?

In 2007, Chisholm told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: 'Is there going to be an individual I divert, or I put into treatment program, who's going to go out and kill somebody? You bet. Guaranteed. It's guaranteed to happen.

'It does not invalidate the overall approach.'

 

[punkin]

You mean statements like this?

In 2007, Chisholm told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: 'Is there going to be an individual I divert, or I put into treatment program, who's going to go out and kill somebody? You bet. Guaranteed. It's guaranteed to happen.

'It does not invalidate the overall approach.'

Right, but now that it's actually happened, he looking to blame a junior assistant DA just doing her job.