Can you wear a baseball cap to a restaurant?

Respectfully (because that's what proper etiquette/good manners are - respect for one's surroundings and fellow beings), simply because something is the 'social norm' or 'typical practice' in a given establishment, or deemed acceptable by some customers, doesn't make it proper etiquette or good manners.

It also doesn't make it bad manners or improper behavior. I have fought in three wars and if I want to wear a hat in a restaurant, I'm gonna wear a hat and if someone wants to say something to me, go ahead, light me up, just be prepared to suffer the consequences.
 
Hi,,

For me its ok to wear a hat! I have no problem with it! My DH wears a hat about 80% of the time! Its funny he takes it off just before bed and puts it on before he leaves the bedroom in the morning,LOL! I think he feels naked without it! Now my Dad he will remove his hat when he enters a room or come to the table. My Dad is "old fashion" but he does not mind my DH wearing a hat!!!! My DH is a complete gentleman, he is a wonderful man! Hat on or hat off does not change the man he is!
Just my two cents!!!:goodvibes
 
I still think the man was upset because he thought the OP's Dh was being disrespectful to her and he was in his own way sticking up for her. I think he could have minded his own business but I do agree with the man.
 
I couldn't care less if people wore hats in a restaurant, especially one like Bravo. That man was way out of line saying something to your husband.
 

My husband and I went to Bravo Italian restaurant this evening for dinner. It is located at a popular shopping mall near our home. Halfway through our meal, an older man in his 70's walked past the aisle and told my husband to take his hat off. He kept on walking...out the door. We were so shocked. My husband was so upset by his comment that he didn't even finish his meal! It was a navy blue cap that said ADIDAS on it.
What is your thought on wearing baseball caps to a restaurant?????????

We were raised no hats at the table and you had to wear a shirt! I agree with the man. But I will add that it wouldn't bother me if your husband wore a hat and I wouldn't have said anything...
 
It also doesn't make it bad manners or improper behavior. I have fought in three wars and if I want to wear a hat in a restaurant, I'm gonna wear a hat and if someone wants to say something to me, go ahead, light me up, just be prepared to suffer the consequences.

Wow. You are tough.
 
Hi,,

For me its ok to wear a hat! I have no problem with it! My DH wears a hat about 80% of the time! Its funny he takes it off just before bed and puts it on before he leaves the bedroom in the morning,LOL! I think he feels naked without it! Now my Dad he will remove his hat when he enters a room or come to the table. My Dad is "old fashion" but he does not mind my DH wearing a hat!!!! My DH is a complete gentleman, he is a wonderful man! Hat on or hat off does not change the man he is!
Just my two cents!!!:goodvibes


Your DH sounds just like mine! He never wears a ball cap to bed, formal events, funerals, during the National Anthem, or during prayers. Other than those times, he will not be caught with a ball cap on. DH coaches softball and will not wear the visor from the team. He lost his hair at a young age and does not like his bald head. DH is a wonderful husband, dad, and community member. DH is a former Marine who served during wartime. Never once has anyone said anything to him about wearing a hat a dinner. There are so many more important things to worry about!
 
Someone earlier asked about removing hats at sporting events during the National Anthem.

We went to an AAA baseball game today, and the announcer actually said "please remove your hats...."

I couldn't help but look around to see if everyone complied, and from what I could see near me, the answer was yes!
 
You know, what's actually happened here is someone took it upon himself to try and tell another person what to do - tried to enforce his view of proper etiquette on another person. That irks me.

Take the previous post about taking a hat off during the National Anthem. I served in the US Army for 36 years and served in three different wars. I fought for the right of someone to choose not to take their hat off during the Anthem. That's all I have to say about that.
 
FYI-


EVIL SWEDE'S GUIDE TO PROPER HAT ETIQUETTE

PORTIONS EXCERPTED FROM THE "COWBOY CHRONICLE" & THE ESSENTIAL HANDBOOK OF VICTORIAN ETIQUETTE


Background..
While I do receive inquiries regarding this hat page on a regular basis, please understand, it was never meant to be a detailed history of hats or a comprehensive catalog of accepted headgear conventions. It has been set up primarily as a reference and commentary on proper hat etiquette for those participating in Cowboy Action Shooting (CAS), a competitive shooting sport [CAS FAQ] that, in part, recreates and reenacts the Old West period (1840's to 1900's) and the traditions of the Victorian Era (1837 to 1901), as observed in the Western United States.



Commentary..
A group of men sporting their bowlers, courtesy of Clearwater Hats
This is certainly not an article dedicated to showing how odd or "quaint" Victorian citizens were. It is truly a study in respect (self respect and the respect of others), tradition and good old-fashioned "manners".. something we seem to have lost along the way (while our culture is eroding and common courtesy apparently has become too inconvenient for everyday living).

I think it is important for the younger generations to be familiar with what many now consider to be "by-gone" traditions of civility. If kids are going to live outside the conventions of proper etiquette, at least they should know they may be offending people and/or showing disrespect and a lack of self-respect in the process.

If they are doing it out of contempt, that is fine.. it is akin to refusing to shake someone's hand when they offer it. If they are doing it out of ignorance, that reflects poorly on their upbringing and makes them look foolish, inept and uneducated. It would be like not knowing what a handshake was and recoiling or looking at someone oddly when they offered their hand because you didn't know how to respond (like a caveman would maybe?).


It's a matter of history..
The "tipping" or removal of a hat is said to have originated from the same place as the military salute. Knights would lift the visor (face guard) on their helm, showing their face as a sign of respect and their empty hand as an indication they meant no harm. This tradition evolved into the modern military salute. Similarly, the removal of a helm (helmet) or other headgear indoors and as a sign of respect or reverence is said to have originated before the Dark Ages. This tradition was carried on throughout the centuries by men of arms (soldiers) and nobility, as well as their staff, servants and slaves. After the Dark Ages, manners and etiquette grew to become an essential part of everyday life and the conventions of hat etiquette became ingrained in civilized culture.


It's a matter of culture..
Up until the late 1940's and early 1950's, hats were worn by gentlemen, particularly outdoors. It was considered "bad manners" for a gentleman or a lady to be seen outdoors without proper headgear. Pompador hair styles and popular icon of the time, such as Tony Curtis and Elvis Presley had a significant impact on the decline of hat wearing in the US. President Kennedy was the first U.S. President to be seen outdoors without a hat and from the 1960's on, the use of hats declined considerably. According to the Essential Handbook of Victorian Etiquette there are many accepted traditions concerning proper rituals that should be adhered to by gentlemen while wearing a hat. In the 1800's, hat etiquette was strictly followed and thus became second nature to gentlemen in Victorian times. Being that the frequent (or nearly constant) wearing of hats is a tradition of a by-gone era, it is important that those choosing to reenact that era be particularly aware of the proper rules of conduct that should be demonstrated by the wearer.


The Rules..
There are two degrees of politeness demonstrated by a gentleman wearing a hat:
1.Lifting or tipping it, which you generally do for strangers.
2.Taking it off, which you generally do for friends (or in some cases, as a sign of patriotism or reverence).
Both are done as a sign of respect toward the other and dignity toward oneself.

Tipping your hat is a conventional gesture, done by barely lifting it off your head with your right hand (or the left hand if the right hand is occupied): By the crown of a soft hat, or the brim of a stiff one. Your cigarette, pipe or cigar should always be taken out of your mouth before removing or tipping your hat. This is a subtle gesture that should not be confused with bowing.

A man takes off his hat outdoors (and indoors):
(1) when he is being introduced to someone, or when saying goodbye to a woman, elder, friend or ;
(2) as a greeting when passing someone he knows, particularly a lady, on the street (In some cases, tipping or lifting a hat and bowing slightly may be used as a substitute for removing a hat, as a passing gesture);
(3) while talking, particularly with a woman, an older man, or a clergyman;
(4) while the National Anthem is being played, or the American Flag is passing;
(5) at a funeral or in the presence of a passing funeral procession,
(6) when speaking to another of a virtuous woman or a dearly departed loved one.

A man tips or lifts his hat:
(1) when walking with a friend who passes a woman only the friend knows;
(2) any time a lady who is a stranger thanks you for some service or assistance;
(3) any time you excuse yourself to a woman stranger, such as if you accidentally disturb or jostle her in a crowd, or when you ask for pardon when passing in a tight space or when forced to walk between two people that are conversing, particularly if one is a woman;
(4) any time a stranger shows courtesy to a woman you are accompanying, such as when a man or woman picks up something she has dropped, or a man opens a door for her or gives her his seat;
(5) when you ask a woman (or an elderly man) for directions.

Indoors, a man should always remove his hat, (particularly in a home, church, courtroom or restaurant) except:
(1) in some public buildings or public places such as railroad stations or post offices;
(2) in the main parlor area of a saloon or general store;
(3) or while seated at the "lunch counter" of a diner or cafe;
(4) in entrance halls and corridors of office buildings, or hotels;
(5) in elevators of public or office buildings, unless a woman is present;
(6) if carrying packages, parcels or bags and both hands are occupied upon entry.
(7) If the man is an actor or performer and the hat is being worn as a part of a costume or performance.


If in doubt, it is best for a gentleman to remove his hat indoors as soon as practical.
It is considered a sign of contempt and/or disrespect to leave your hat on when it would be proper to remove it. It is surprising how many people do not remove their hats for the National Anthem or a passing funeral procession.. a shame really.
 
That is just plain nuts. So what if her DH had a hat on? While it is customary that you remove a hat, failure to do so does not make him a mannerless heathen. Maybe where he is from they don't do that.

There are a million and one reasons that people might be wearing hats inside. Wehn I worked entertainment we were specifically told that at no time should a performer remove another person's hat even as a joke. They could have it on to hide the fact that they are bald, have a scar from recent (or not so recent surgerY, etc. You can't tell by looking. I know when I shaved my head I looked at the American Cancer Society's catalogue to find something to wear while at work, and they made products specifically to go under hats that made it look like you had hair, but if you took the hat off it was not a full wig. How did that old man know that this was not the case for the OP's husband?

Wearing the hat was tacky. Pointing it out was even tackier. And if it bothered the man so much that he couldn't finish his meal as another poster suggested, then maybe he should just eat at home from now on.
 
Who cares what other people wear on their heads?

I know my dad wears hats EVERYWHERE (except for when the National Anthem is playing, of course) just because he doesn't want people to see his balding head :rotfl:. If his wearing a hat is YOUR biggest problem of the day, then I am envious of your life.
 
Who cares what other people wear on their heads?

I know my dad wears hats EVERYWHERE (except for when the National Anthem is playing, of course) just because he doesn't want people to see his balding head :rotfl:. If his wearing a hat is YOUR biggest problem of the day, then I am envious of your life.

Is your dad Ron Howard?
 
Why is that not surprising? :rolleyes1

Why is what not surprising? I don't follow your reasoning. Just because mom said so is not a valid reason for removing one's hat, or grampa always did.

And as to my probable reply, if the man had approached and ASKED me to remove it, we would probably have had an interesting conversation and quite possibly I would have removed my hat. Had the man in question COMMANDED or ORDERED me to take off my hat, then my original answer would probably be my reaction.
 
. This isn't rocket science, folks. You don't need to be stylish, you don't need to wear designer clothes, but you do need to be dressed and it is considered disrespectful to wear a hat in any restaurant. However, you should keep your shoes on. :thumbsup2


But WHY is it disrepectful??? :confused3 My thoughts are if the restaurant wants you to dress or not dress a certain way, they can instate a dress code. I just don't understand the weird "rule" about hats indoors. I had never even heard of it until I started seeing threads about how rude it is on here :confused3
I mean, someone wearing a hat indoors isn't changing the quality of service, quality of food, etc. Once again, if the restaurant wishes you to not do something, they can instate a dress code and people who choose to dress differently can just not go there. I mean I think of myself as a very respectful person. please, thank you, may I, holding the door for people( and yes I"m female) but I just really don't get this one at all...
 
I agree with the man. Hats at the dinner table are rude. Whether you are home or out it is rude. Men are supposed to remove their hats when inside or at the table. I was brought up that way so I can see where the man was coming from. I would not have said anything to your dh though. What you do is none of my business.
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I agree.. My DD's FIL wears a hat all the time - but - whenever he's enters a building (be it a public building or a private home) - or when he's eating in a restaurant (or someones home) - the hat comes off.. My dad was the same way..

I wouldn't have said anything to the OP's DH - but I would have been surprised..
 














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