Attack of the Lakeshore Lodge

[ehh]

They could not possibly have provided less information while still saying something.

"Yes, it's real and a few years away. But please don't call it Reflections, we heard you the first time"

 

[Sandisw]

Exciting news!

 

[maui22]

I like the name change and it gives me hope the design may have changed.

 

[SugarSweetLee]

"Yes, it's real and a few years away. But please don't call it Reflections, we heard you the first time"

Why didn't folks like the name Reflections?

 

[Hubalorian]

I’m going with LSL, Lakeside Lodge. I am unsure where you are getting the R?

So, how are we going to call it? LLR?

 

[SugarSweetLee]

I’m going with LSL, Lakeside Lodge. I am unsure where you are getting the R?

R for Resort. Like RR Riviera Resort, SSR Saratoga Springs Resort

 

[SugarSweetLee]

But I probably would just say LL?

 

[Hubalorian]

R for Resort. Like RR Riviera Resort, SSR Saratoga Springs Resort

Would we say lodge resort? Wouldn’t lodge be in replace of resort?

 

[SugarSweetLee]

Would we say lodge resort? Wouldn’t lodge be in replace of resort?

That's why I said in the next post that I'd probably stick with LL. I just think the previous poster was using R for Resort.

 

[Hubalorian]

That's why I said in the next post that I'd probably stick with LL. I just think the previous poster was using R for Resort.

yea I should’ve seen that. You’re probably right, it’ll be LL

 

[ehh]

Why didn't folks like the name Reflections?

Main things I saw in the initial complaints:

• It reminded many people of a retirement home name, or a rehab facility. Semi-negative connotations.
• It was an abstract name, rather than a reference to a place (Riviera, Polynesia[n], Caribbean Beach, BoardWalk, etc.) or a semi-defined theme (Pop Century, Art of Animation, Wilderness Lodge, etc.).

Combined, the question of 'based on just the name, what kind of theming or vibe can I expect at Reflections?' could be answered as 'retirement home or rehab facility'.

So, how are we going to call it? LLR?

I'm assuming that there will be a hotel side and a DVC side, and that the DVC side will be named something like Villas at Lakeshore Lodge, abbreviated "VLL".

 

[jcolvin5]

The post on X has resort at the end, but the WDWNT site does not. I think we can remove resort from the discussion.

 

[davidhr]

Only added the R because I like three letters. LSL is fine too.

 

[SugarSweetLee]

Main things I saw in the initial complaints:

• It reminded many people of a retirement home name, or a rehab facility. Semi-negative connotations.
• It was an abstract name, rather than a reference to a place (Riviera, Polynesia[n], Caribbean Beach, BoardWalk, etc.) or a semi-defined theme (Pop Century, Art of Animation, Wilderness Lodge, etc.).

Combined, the question of 'based on just the name, what kind of theming or vibe can I expect at Reflections?' could be answered as 'retirement home or rehab facility'.


I'm assuming that there will be a hotel side and a DVC side, and that the DVC side will be named something like Villas at Lakeshore Lodge, abbreviated "VLL".

Hmmm why would you assume there's a hotel side? If the trend seems to be toward converting more rooms to DVC a la Cabins, or building DVC-only resorts like Riviera, I probably wouldn't bank on a hotel division here either...

 

[SugarSweetLee]

The post on X has resort at the end, but the WDWNT site does not. I think we can remove resort from the discussion.

Is DLL out?

I do find it odd that the official name now seems to be "Disney" Lakeshore Lodge. Compare that to *Disney's* Riviera Resort, Disney's Old Key West, Disney's [everything else] it sure feels a little weird to me and sticks out. (I do realize the subtitle of Reflections had the same issue.)

 

[jennypenny]

I don’t understand why they didn’t name it River Country Lodge.

 

[GADisneyDad14]

Hmmm why would you assume there's a hotel side? If the trend seems to be toward converting more rooms to DVC a la Cabins, or building DVC-only resorts like Riviera, I probably wouldn't bank on a hotel division here either...

The original plans for Reflections were announced as a partial DVC / partial hotel setup (with no specifics on the unit mix, just 900+ rooms). FWIW. Personally I suspect that will still be the case now, but TBD of course.

 

[DVCKing]

I don’t understand why they didn’t name it River Country Lodge.

I agree. Huge missed opportunity!

 

[Hubalorian]

I don’t understand why they didn’t name it River Country Lodge.

Someone probably patented the name and Disney didn’t want to buy the rights to the name

 

[ehh]

Hmmm why would you assume there's a hotel side? If the trend seems to be toward converting more rooms to DVC a la Cabins, or building DVC-only resorts like Riviera, I probably wouldn't bank on a hotel division here either...

Early signs (permitting, construction, etc.) support that it will have roughly the same footprint as the original 900-room plan of Reflections, which was announced as split DVC/hotel.

And a 900 room DVC-only resort would be a gargantuan DVC resort. For perspective:

• SSR is currently the largest at 888 with no lockoff splitting, or 1320 with full lockoff splitting.
  • Granted, SSR is a 2BR resort that relies on lock-off splitting for smaller rooms. Modern resorts are mostly Studios that also have some larger Villas.
• Poly1 + Poly 2 is 602 - 648 rooms, depending on LO splitting, and is ~75% Studio by room count.
• Riviera is 341 - 489 rooms, depending on LO splitting.
• VGF1 + VGF2 is 302 - 349 rooms, depending on LO splitting.

It definitely could be a DVC-only resort, but until more is announced I'd lean against that.