Argh. The 20% off coupon can't be used for Disney Giftcards afterall. :(

[rachel09985]

Tell me what generates one person getting over another. I'm not the person asking for special treatment. Now, we are hearing the manager offered the discount. He just cost the company $500 and now other guest will want the same. That is not a manager I want running an organization. Good leaders need to consider the long term consequences and not just getting the guest out of the store.

Just an FYI. I work on the vendor side of target and the vendors pay the 5% off discount. Target bills it out to the vendors. So technically they just cost Disney 500 dollars!

 

[acr]

Didn't work for me and the manager could not/would not override it. It was worth a try, oh well...

 

[andrews_dad]

Didn't work for me and the manager could not/would not override it. It was worth a try, oh well...

This is the anti-Xmas. I did the %5 Red and %5 Pharm to pay for last cruise. Was all pumped to book another cruise today after using this 20% coupon and 5% red. And instead, I am raking leaves and no cruise this spring after all. Can't afford without the discount : ( I knew it was a long shot but still disappointing.

 

[wunkmom]

This is the anti-Xmas. I did the %5 Red and %5 Pharm to pay for last cruise. Was all pumped to book another cruise today after using this 20% coupon and 5% red. And instead, I am raking leaves and no cruise this spring after all. Can't afford without the discount : ( I knew it was a long shot but still disappointing.

Really? You pinned all your cruise hopes on a coupon that had a very slim chance of working? Surely you could use your imagination to come up with other ways of saving money.

 

[QVCshopper]

Really, I am shocked by people on here and reminded why I don't post much anymore. A few people were lucky and got the discount. But to hope Target employees lose their jobs is nuts.

If you want more money, work more, sell stuff, or spend less. You shouldn't expect Target to just hand over extra cash because you have a magical coupon that states "excludes gift cards" right on it.

For me, I'm not going to even try because I feel unethical knowing the computer isn't supposed to accept it for the Disney GIFT cards. To each their own though.

 

[wunkmom]

Really, I am shocked by people on here and reminded why I don't post much anymore. A few people were lucky and got the discount. But to hope Target employees lose their jobs is nuts. If you want more money, work more, sell stuff, or spend less. You shouldn't expect Target to just hand over extra cash because you have a magical coupon that states "excludes gift cards" right on it. For me, I'm not going to even try because I feel unethical knowing the computer isn't supposed to accept it for the Disney GIFT cards. To each their own though.

THIS^^^^^^^^!
Well said.

 

[goofyredraider]

Really, I am shocked by people on here and reminded why I don't post much anymore. A few people were lucky and got the discount. But to hope Target employees lose their jobs is nuts.

If you want more money, work more, sell stuff, or spend less. You shouldn't expect Target to just hand over extra cash because you have a magical coupon that states "excludes gift cards" right on it.

For me, I'm not going to even try because I feel unethical knowing the computer isn't supposed to accept it for the Disney GIFT cards. To each their own though.

Agreed.

Working in retail, someone can lose their job (i.e. means to keep a roof over their heads and food in their kids' tummies) over stuff like this, or be written up and reprimanded. Some people need to refocus on what really is important.

The coupon had a VERY, VERY slim chance of being good for this purpose. By no means does Target "owe" you anything. You got and earned a 20% off coupon with disclaimers. I'm sure their IT department will be "readjusting" the coding of the Disney cards in their systems because at some point, this becomes abuse and they are losing too much $$ on it.

 

[djmeredith]

It says no gift cards on the darn coupon. Its a Disney GIFT CARD. I don't understand how that's deceptive. They can put whatever exclusions they want on their coupons even if its different for each coupon.

Because Target itself has never considered them "gift cards." If they had always categorized them in their system as gift cards instead if "entertainment cards" then you're logic would be spot on. However, to re-categorize them now as gift cards to avoid honoring the coupon without excluding them on the coupon or in ads is deceptive to the customer. All terms have legal meanings based on how the company has defined them. Those of us who shop Target all the time know that ONLY Target gift cards are normally considered "gift cards." If they are still honoring the Red card discount today on those cards, then they can't claim to have recategorized them only for coupon exclusion: they can't be defined as "entertainment cards" for one promotion and "gift cards" for another on the same day without making that absolutely clear to the consumer.

 

[michelle06]

Why were the Itunes specifically excluded if all cards are excluded?

 

[gretchenohar@hotmail]

Well, I am going to return all the things I bought to spend $75 to get the 20% coupon and buy them back using the 20% coupon.

Brilliant idea!!!

 

[sweetdana]

Why were the Itunes specifically excluded if all cards are excluded?

Apple requires it legally they had to (sane for Bose n other apple products).

 

[junebug]

Why were the Itunes specifically excluded if all cards are excluded?

I was thinking he same thing.

 

[chrystalc77]

Well, I am going to return all the things I bought to spend $75 to get the 20% coupon and buy them back using the 20% coupon.

Seriously??? I hope they make your coupon invalid as well. As a retail worker I hate when customers abuse the system!!! That is coupon fraud.

 

[Perditamarie]

iTunes specifically is excluded because Apple required it, but it is no different from any of the other 'gift cards' for accounting purposes. Target's own cards and the visa/mc/amex cards are different because of how they are handled in accounting/banking and how the income is taken (earned). When Target sells a Target gift card, Target still owes that person $25 or $50 worth of merchandize so it must carry that amount as a debt. When it sells a Disney card or a Chili's card, Target has no further obligation - Target gets to recognize its $1.22 or whatever it is right then and doesn't care if the person who bought it never goes to Chili's or Disney and the card is wasted. For this reason, Target classifies its own cards as a gift card (a debt) and other cards as entertainment cards (sold, a profit to Target). The visa/mc/amex are bank cards, and there are bank rules to govern them.

Many states do have laws about gift cards, and all these cards are covered the same no matter what name they were sold under. In most states now the cards can't expire without notice, do have a cash value (and in some places the merchant needs to give you cash back if the amount remaining is less then $1), etc.

But just because Target calls it an entertainment card doesn't mean the law doesn't call it a gift card.

Nancy

I think this poster explains the distinctions are for accounting purposes. Honestly, people are lucky to get the 5% (plus stacked pharmacy rewards) discount on these cards. ITunes cards are also on sale frequently at 5-10% savings as well.

I would really be interested in hearing of feedback received from the AG's office!!

 

[DarthMole]

Because Target itself has never considered them "gift cards." If they had always categorized them in their system as gift cards instead if "entertainment cards" then you're logic would be spot on. However, to re-categorize them now as gift cards to avoid honoring the coupon without excluding them on the coupon or in ads is deceptive to the customer. All terms have legal meanings based on how the company has defined them. Those of us who shop Target all the time know that ONLY Target gift cards are normally considered "gift cards." If they are still honoring the Red card discount today on those cards, then they can't claim to have recategorized them only for coupon exclusion: they can't be defined as "entertainment cards" for one promotion and "gift cards" for another on the same day without making that absolutely clear to the consumer.

You my want to read the Target Red Card terms before trying to use that discount as the basis for your argument. They are quite specific and don't use generic "entertainment card" or "gift card" terms like you are.

Also, for anyone who shops there "all the time", you would know the Disney Gift Cards have not been working with other coupons for some time now. The only things that seem to work are the Red Card and Pharmacy discounts anymore. So stop acting like they changed it for this one promotion.

 

[neg58]

I agree that the Disney cards are GIFT cards. What frustrates me is that Target changes the classification. Put the Disney/restaurant cards in ONE category (either Entertainment cards or Gift Cards) and LEAVE them there. That would be clearer and much less frustrating.

Why does it matter to you how they classify their own inventory? Do you care if they call a case of water food, beverage, grocery, or even if they call it entertainment or women's clothing? You bought water, you got water.

They classify thing for accounting, marketing, advertising reasons. The purchase of a $25 target gift card is a wash to Target from an accounting view. Target took in $25 but now has $25 of debt out there that they must honor when someone presents the $25 gift card. For the cards it sells for others, Target's profit is made at the time of sale. They take in $25 and pay the merchant for the card at whatever amount they agree on (Target gets a very small % of the price we pay) and then Target is done. The merchant now has a debt out there, but Target is done and can realize the profit or loss immediately.

Nancy

 

[mistysue]

1) The coupon did not work for my hulu, Wendy's, subway or chipotle cards either. When my total came up, I acted dumb and said "oh, I didn't think it would be that much... was something excluded I didn't realize?" The cashier looked at me and a little sternly said "ALL gift cards. ALL." I had a lot of other stuff, as I used the 20% on all my grocery and cleaning stuff too, but she knew exactly why I was asking. I responded "Oh, I thought those were entertainment cards, they work with the redcard discount." She just shrugged and asked if I wanted to use my coupon or keep it.

2) It's not like Target has big signs and tells you they are entertainment cards. That term is only even used to explain to people why the discount works. The discounts that they still work with (redcard/pharmacy reward) specifically exclude "Target gift cards" - therefore that is an argument that doesn't apply to what we are talking about. You can argue semantics and call them entertainment cards, you can call them whatever you want, but in fact they are gift cards. It is written right on the coupon that it isn't for gift cards, it was on every single leaked copy so if you bought stuff to get the coupon, you already knew it didn't cover gift cards. It was fun to fantasize that some glitch would let us all commit coupon fraud and use it for something specifically excluded but it didn't work. Be mad at yourself if you need somebody to be mad at.

 

[scrapbooksellman]

Did it work for any cards?

I went ahead and bought $500 disney cards, lego hobbit set, cannon camera bundle, large lego base plate, pack of underwear for DD and some dishtowels.
I spent $584 after using the 20%, my 5% pharmacy and 5% red card.
Not a bad deal in my opinion. The legos were $70 orginally and the camera was on sale for $99.

 

[JanaDee]

This is just silly. You know they are gift cards. Sure, they may ring up as entertainment cards, but they look, act, and smell like gift cards. Did I want this deal to work? Sure, who wouldn't want a free 20%? But, really, it seemed too good to be true from the beginning. Why should Target give us a free $200 if we buy $1000? It's nice they give us $50 on $1000. I'm thankful for that and moving on...

I'm surprised anyone believed it would work to begin with. I knew Disney gift cards would be excluded.

 

[Here4mydisneyfix]

Agreed.

Working in retail, someone can lose their job (i.e. means to keep a roof over their heads and food in their kids' tummies) over stuff like this, or be written up and reprimanded. Some people need to refocus on what really is important.

This. There is no way to override this coupon, so for a manager to give the 20% off, they have to go in and manually change the price of the card. Their team member code is on their manual change, so it WILL be known who did it! Now target always gives managers the ability to discount an item in extenuating circumstances, but costing the company hundreds, or even thousands of dollars doing so is not good business and I am willing to bet they will be reprimanded or fired for it if they keep on doing it. My husband said there is NO way he would do it because he really wants to keep HIS job! I think these few managers maybe aren't thinking straight and mistaking this for a situation where they should give discounts. Because it states no GCs on the coupon, they really shouldn't and people shouldn't demand that they do. Nobody should be getting fired over this, especially right near Christmas!!