anybody think Bush is the anti-christ and Armageddon is around the corner?

[ead79]

originally posted by goofy17

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Armageddon itself, I believe, will not take place until after the 7 years of the Tribulation, so I don't believe it is around the corner.
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my premise is that we are within the 7 years of the Tribulation. The foundations are being established during this 4-year reign, and upon re-election W will complete the evildoing scheme.

i know my thread is a bunch of paranoid hooey, but someone mentioned that there was all this talk during Reagan, and i remember the same talk under Bush I as well. Right now all this freaky stuff is happening, but nobody is talking about the possibility of rapture and the tribulation anymore, which lead me to think that a fabulous ruse is being executed. if nobody is talking about it, nobody is seeing it coming.


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Originally posted by ead79
Also, I believe that the anti-christ will become popular/powerful, so to speak, following the Rapture.
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if the anti-christ comes after the rapture, does that mean the living have a second chance at being saved? i need to brush up on Revelations, but it's all guess-work anyway.

goofy, I see what you are saying more clearly now. My personal beliefs are as follows:

I believe that the Rapture will occur before the 7 years of the Tribulation, based on Revelation 3:10 , which says, "Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth." Based on my beliefs about the end times, I believe that the Rapture and the Glorious Appearing of Christ are 2 different, distinct events. The Rapture does not involve Christ's return to earth, but does involve the living believers in Christ rising to heaven at the time of the Rapture. I believe that the 7 years of the Tribulation will then begin, and the anti-christ will rise to great power.

To answer your question about the second chance at salvation, yes, I do believe that those people who remain after the Rapture will be given the same chance to turn to Christ that we have today. I don't see it as a second chance in the sense that they will still have to take the salvation of Christ on faith, since I don't believe He will have returned to earth yet. However, I think that it will be a very difficult decision to come to Christ during the Tribulation, as I believe that the anti-christ will attempt to squelch Christianity. I also believe that eventually all people will be required to take the mark of the beast (anti-christ) in order to buy/sell and even survive. The Bible is clear that those who take this mark will not be saved, so I believe that it will be very difficult for those people to survive and that many who become believers during the Tribulation will die before its conclusion.

Following the 7 years of the Tribulation, I believe that Christ will return to earth in the Glorious Appearing. I believe that He will defeat the anti-christ, who at that time will have been indwelt by Satan, and throw him into a lake of fire and that Christ will begin what is known as the Millennial Reign of Christ, where He rules on the new earth for 1,000 years with all believers. Thus, I personally don't believe that we will enter the Tribulation without knowing it, as I believe that the Rapture will occur before the Tribulation begins.

I completely understand what you mean about Revelation being guesswork, as prophecies can be difficult to understand. Revelation is certainly complicated, and I don't pretend to have all the answers, I just wanted to explain my beliefs a little better in response to your question.

 

[jimmiej]

Someone may have mentioned this already (I'm not going to read every post), but will the antichrist claim to be a Christian?

 

[DopeyRN]

A couple of questions.

If a person kills a pregnant woman, they are usually charged with murder X2, the mother and the child. Does this mean the government sees the fetus as a human being?

Why do I console my patients who lose a fetus, be it 1st, 2nd or 3rd trimester. Why do we console posters here who are devestated by the loss of a pregnancy? Is a fetus only a human when it wanted?

 

[LScot]

Nothing I have ever read or studied made me think the anti-christ will claim to be Christian. Only very loved, accepted and charismatic and will all that becoming very powerful.

I don't think George W. Bush is the anti-christ. But I do believe there is a very strong possibility that the anti-christ exists today--somewhere. Through the years many have been guessed to be him. I think that is because no one will know when the rapture will occur and the trib. will take place. So therefore, Satan is always preparing someone just in case. There is no idea to know when all the things predicted throughout the Bible (not just in Revelation are they found) will take place. But, we are to be watching and ready and can know we are getting close.

The anti-christ will bring (false) peace. I believe whoever could possibly bring peace in a world such as we live in today would indeed have a huge following. Peace seems just about impossible as much hate is taught in this world.

I suppose one could look at it as rights being taken away by republicans. Although a lot of it is upholding what is right according to God. Rights are being taken away though. We get more and more dependant on our government everyday, unable to think for ourselves too. This, perhaps, in preparation for dependancy on a leader who will actually be evil.

So, no, like Elisabeth, I don't think the tribulation has started nor do I think GWB is in the middle of his reign as anti-christ.. As she said, the thought of that assumption is upsetting but I don't think it is a question from a troll.

 

[Microcell]

Originally posted by Mad4Mickey
Nope ..... I think we all have our right to think what we want .

I choose to be behind our President . I dont hink he is the Anti Christ cause we all know that was Clinton

Exactly what I was thinking! Read your bible! Popular, affable, charasmatic- that is the antichrist and it also said that we will all turn against Isreal when the time comes! Sooooo no!

 

[Tinkerbelle739]

TROLL, TROLL, go away, go to the Debate Board if you want to play!!

And, if in your Newbie ignorance, you did not know about the Debate Board, you know now!!!

I have to add that it cracks me up that everyone on the CB complains about Trolls and yet they continue to post on their threads!

TO goofy17: Welcome to the Dis!!!!

Wishing everyone a "magical" day!

 

[makaylee]

Originally posted by minniepumpernickel


One way to look at things, instead of trying to squelch freedom of speech.

No one is trying to squelch his freedom of speech. Some are just stating that this board isn't for debating, its for fun stuff and to help people. If you'll notice earlier I said he has a right to say whatever he wants, but he should just take it to the appropriate board. Thats what the debate board is there for.

 

[Robinrs]

People.... this may be not make sense to you BUT


Did you realize that if you don't POST to a thread it will GO AWAY????????

makaylee: The OP cannot move a thread. It is on the CB and has not been moved to the DB so if you don't like it, let it die.

Sometimes people post to just get a rise out of people. If you don't want them to win, do not respond. If you wish to discuss, which is the purpose of this board, go right ahead.

Have a nice day.

 

[peachgirl]

Popular, affable, charasmatic

That pretty much rules Bush out as the anti-christ then!