Animal Kingdom a major Flop!

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There's no reason Animal Kingdom should appear on such a list. It's NOT A ZOO.
Actually, in a sense Animal Kingdom is a zoo. It is accredited by the AZA and must follow guidelines. I think that it would be more appropriate to say that the Animal Kingdom is not JUST a zoo.
 
I think what it comes down to is for some people they can see animals other places (like their own local zoos). And while AK is different than most zoos it still has a bunch of animals and some people just don't care for that or that once you've seen an elephant you've seen them all. They are going to WDW for what they can't get at home and may visit AK to see the shows and few rides but don't really care about the animal section of the park.
 
Chester Zoo is larger than any zoo in the United States. I could only find reference to one zoo in the world that was larger (Berlin; the London Zoo is about the same size). Saying the AK doesn't have a lot of animals is like saying the Empire State Building isn't tall.

By the way, I grew up near the Bronx Zoo, the second-largest zoo (in terms of number of animals; largest in size) in the US. I don't like it. You can spend an entire 8-hour day there and still hardly see any animals because they are so spread out and the enclosures are so big and there is nothing to entice them to stay in places where they can be seen.

As far as I can tell, the AK is about 5th-10th in the US in terms of number of animals. There are 216 AZA-accredited zoos in the US, so it is true that AK has more animals than the vast majority of them.

There's no reason Animal Kingdom should appear on such a list. It's NOT A ZOO.

Actually, it frequently appears on those lists.
http://www.americasbestonline.com/zoos.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30212674/
http://www.wrsol.com/usatravelguide/2009/02/top10zoosinamerica/

Actually, in a sense Animal Kingdom is a zoo. It is accredited by the AZA and must follow guidelines. I think that it would be more appropriate to say that the Animal Kingdom is not JUST a zoo.

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I have to also say Animal Kingdom is my Favorite Park.
I feel sorry for OP who can't see how beautiful AK is and it is so much
more than a Cheap Thrill ride park. OP seem like Universal Studios material.
 
When we went last year, we weren't interested in Expedition Everest, Kali Rapids or the Dinosaur rides ..... and we STILL had a great time. The safari was great, Lion King and Nemo were exceptional, and we just enjoyed walking around and soaking everything in. Tusker House was a really nice breakfast buffet also.
 
My wife and I love AK. We spend more time there on every trip. It has really grown on us since it opened. We really, really love EE. It was a great addition to the park. I love AK because it is so different from the other parks.
 
The only difference is that DCA is getting what it needs with another 1 billion (actually, I heard it's more like 800 million-900 million), whereas Animal Kingdom gets little to nothing every year. The only new ride in its 10 year existence is Everest. DCA got a 2 new lands, MSEP, Little Mermaid, World of Color, Toy Story Mania, and Tower of Terror. And on top of all that they are creating more little details for people to enjoy. Basically the quality will be that of all other Disney parks by 2012, where DAK will continue to lag behind.

All I'm saying is that DCA is pretty well off and not a disaster like others make it sound.

We're local to DCA, and know it well as the AP lounge. Its first few years, it was a sea of stucco (I guess that's authentic to modern California all right), with nothing much to offer in the mode of Disney. Shops and restaurants out-numbered attractions, which were mostly off the shelf carnival style rides or movie based. Even the park's greatest hit, Soarin, had nothing to offer other than the ride experience itself. No themed queue, just a hallway with pictures. The layout is still a collection of cul de sacs.

Yes, its getting much better, and yes, that's because its situation is nothing like AK's. AK is one gate out of 4 majors and plenty of other 'minors.' DCA sits 100 yards from the gates of Walt's original park and wasn't doing its job. There was little option other than to close restaurants, add something for little kids, and plus up the more uninspired parts of the park.

We're starting off our spring trip with a day at our favorite WDW park. That's AK. I can almost guarantee we'll be back for a second day, possibly at the expense of skipping MK. I know we're atypical.
 
I have to also say Animal Kingdom is my Favorite Park.
I feel sorry for OP who can't see how beautiful AK is and it is so much
more than a Cheap Thrill ride park. OP seem like Universal Studios material.

Sounds like a harsh flame, but I TOTALLY agree.

Nothing at WDW is meant to be a thriller park, its not meant to be nothing but rides. IT IS A THEME PARK. THEMING, which AK has in droves.

AK is also my favorite park. Everything about it is just perfect, and I think it all just fits together perfectly!
 
I have to also say Animal Kingdom is my Favorite Park.
I feel sorry for OP who can't see how beautiful AK is and it is so much
more than a Cheap Thrill ride park. OP seem like Universal Studios material.
That is very rude. I'm Universal Studios material and proud of it! :mad:
 
I do not see Animal Kingdom as being a zoo (Nahtazu).
Some people might like those huge roller coasters that you can see from a mile away, or some might like rides that fit in with the theming of the park.
To the OP - Animal Kingdom is not a major flop, none of the Disney parks are. I'm sorry if you see it as a major flop, but maybe instead of focusing on the rides, take a look at the theming. There is much more to a park than rides.

:)
 
You stated that Chester Zoo is a "bog standard UK zoo". While I don't know British slang, to me bog standard indicates typical. UK means United Kingdom, and zoo means zoo. This can therefore only mean that Chester Zoo is typical of a United Kingdom Zoo. If that's the case, Chester Zoo isn't great or outstanding, it's the norm. If I'm misunderstanding, then it's Atypical. I'm not going to England to visit a zoo. I'll go to Walt Disney World to visit an animal-centric theme park. I'll go to Tampa for Busch Gardens. I'll even go to - okay, fine, have almost been locked into - the zoo in Washington DC. If "all" I wanted was a zoo, we have two right here.

yeah, I probably underestimated how big or how good Chester zoo is as a zoo however you must see my point.

As a Brit it cost a heck of a lot of money to go over to Florida and we do so because the weather is great and the theme parks are vastly superior to what we have. Therefore when we roll up at a park that is half zoo half theme park rides, and the zoo bit isnt that good compared to other zoos and the theme park ride bit isnt as good as the other theme parks then your not gonna rate the place.

Dont get me wrong, as I have wrote earlier in the thread the rides that I like at AK are truely top rides, there just isnt enough of them. Similarly, I didnt think there were an awefull lot of animals there either.
 
look, if you just want to repeat Disney soundbites and fancy marketing slogans then feel free to however it is very much a zoo.
Oh. I wasn't aware it was either. I'm merely repeating what I've seen here on the DIS.
 
look, if you just want to repeat Disney soundbites and fancy marketing slogans then feel free to however it is very much a zoo.

Well, to be fair, some things are like things you find in large modern zoos, and some things are not.

Some of the animal pathways and displays are like zoos. And the bird show Flights of Wonder is similar in some ways to shows that zoos put on where they fly their birds.

But I've yet to see a zoo that had the Lion King show, or Nemo, or rides like Dinosaur and EE, or the bug show. And I've yet to see theming in a zoo that is as authentic as the theming in Africa and Asia in AK.

AK is no more "just a zoo" than Seaworld is just an aquarium. Yes, our zoo and aquarium have penguins, and fish, but not the shows and theming that Seaworld has. Same with AK.
 
Oh. I wasn't aware it was either. I'm merely repeating what I've seen here on the DIS.

but its just a slogan, and it works because people remember it. Its just marketing. The fact is that it appears on zoo lists and is regulated that way too, it has to be a zoo. As someone wrote earlier a more accurate description of it would be "not only a zoo" but that aint quite as catchy is it :rotfl:
 
But why should animal kingdom not be compared with something great? If you did a seach on the "best zoo's in the world" or in even just in the states Animal Kingdom would be in that list so its only fair that it is measured up against those zoo's. IMO it doesnt stack up well against them. What the previous poster wanted me to do is agree that AK is great but I had to compare it to a cr@p zoo. I wasnt allowed to compare it to great zoos like San Diego.....how does that work??? :)
The facts remain the same, it has a relatively low number of animals. This isnt population density as the previous poster wanted me to believe, it actually does have a low number of animals compared to other zoos. This is what I base my opinions on, for a zoo it doesnt have enough animals, for a theme park it doesnt have enough good rides. Therefore it isnt relly great at anything, its average.
To be fair, my post did not claim that DAK was one of the "best zoos in the world", nor did it claim that it had more animals than any other zoo in the world. What I DID say was, "Animal Kingdom has more animals than average for a zoo -- fewer overall than some of the big ones (like San Diego Animal Park), but far more than most. I also flat-out stated that DAK had fewer animals than San Diego, so I'm not sure how I didn't allow that comparison. :confused3

To your argument ... yes ... DAK has fewer animals and species than Chester Zoo, but then again ... Chester Zoo does not have Broadway-caliber shows, thrill rides, character greetings, a daily parade and all of the other entertainment and attractions elements of DAK. Mostly because Chester Zoo is a zoo. DAK is not. It is an animal-centric theme park with a zoo element.

I think it's also important to note that of the 450 species at the Chester Zoo, a large number of them are fish, reptiles, amphibians and invertebrates. While DAK has a number of reptiles and amphibians, they are not the focus of the park. Fish and invertebrates cover little or none of the collection. DAK does not have an aquarium; it does not house sea lions or penguins or any of the other sealife found at Chester. The bulk of the DAK animals fall into the mammal or bird categories, including the largest herd of Nile hippos in the Western Hemisphere and the only public exhibit of Malayan flying foxes in the Western Hemisphere. So I would argue that DAK is a significant animal park.

Additionally ... many of Chester's habitats are typically zoo-like, with visible fencing and paddock enclosures, as opposed to the free-roaming environmental areas of DAK that make it seem as though all the animals are able to interact together. Chester is moving towards building more free-roaming areas (like the new bio-dome), but DAK's free-roaming look and feel is the hallmark of the animal areas and different from nearly every other animal park out there.

All that said, I can totally understand that if you walked into DAK expecting a full-sized (Chester-sized) zoo plus a full sized theme park, you would indeed be underwhelmed by the number and variety of animals (or rides) you encountered. Because the park is designed to have the theme park and animal elements share the bill. But really ... a quick look at the website will show you that. It shouldn't have been that much of a surprise.

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We're local to DCA, and know it well as the AP lounge. Its first few years, it was a sea of stucco (I guess that's authentic to modern California all right), with nothing much to offer in the mode of Disney. Shops and restaurants out-numbered attractions, which were mostly off the shelf carnival style rides or movie based. Even the park's greatest hit, Soarin, had nothing to offer other than the ride experience itself. No themed queue, just a hallway with pictures. The layout is still a collection of cul de sacs.

Yes, its getting much better, and yes, that's because its situation is nothing like AK's. AK is one gate out of 4 majors and plenty of other 'minors.' DCA sits 100 yards from the gates of Walt's original park and wasn't doing its job. There was little option other than to close restaurants, add something for little kids, and plus up the more uninspired parts of the park.

We're starting off our spring trip with a day at our favorite WDW park. That's AK. I can almost guarantee we'll be back for a second day, possibly at the expense of skipping MK. I know we're atypical.

Amen... :thumbsup2
At the very least one could say at least AK has a hub-and-spokes design.. DCA.. not so much. (Can't wait for Buena Vista Street!)

I agree with your DCA assessment.
 
wait...there's TWO lions on Safari ride?????????????

and to the posters with the stories and imagineer info on AK..wow thanks...I love this kind of stuff..it makes me enjoy the parks even more...especially since I go alot...
 
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