Almost kicked off FLIGHT! Please help

[Liberty Belle]

Wow. Some people really seem like they need a hug. I hate to hear people acting so unhappy.

So, if you need one, here it is...

 

[cinderella73]

Please don't attack me.
Puppys for use at Disney that are untrained to sniff out nuts is something that I don't agree with.
"Stupidity" is really going overboard IMO.

I am not going to use a untrained puppy at WDW to sniff at nuts. I cant use a puppy thats not trained in the first place.How would I do that? In fact I wont even agree to take the puppy anymore after what other posters told me. You have to remember I am new and learning about the whole allergy dog thing. Its new to me . But I never would have tried to use a untrained dog to sniff something out. It would have been a physical impossibility. I would have had to bring him on the trip with us though I am told to get him used to traveling with us and he cant be left at home alone for 2 weeks either.

Again a mute point since I will request that I only take on a fully trained dog now anyway.



I guess you just seriously misinterpreted

 

[cinderella73]

Wow I just wrote a post explaining that maybe you just misunderstood me and I was polite. And you reported me.

Good thing I believe in Karma...
have a good one

 

[Liberty Belle]

Wow I just wrote a post explaining that maybe you just misunderstood me and I was polite. And you reported me.

Good thing I believe in Karma...
have a good one

Try not to let it get you down. People understand and really, you've lost nothing.

 

[honugirl]

Service dogs are trained prior to placement. This a a very questionable situation IMHO. Either the breeder is clueless or people that use this breeder are unclear on what a puppy can do

Not all service animals come from breeders/trainers. Some people find the dog they already have has tried to learn commands or has a special skill like detecting seizures, the owner then has the option to continue to train the dog. There are many owner trained pairs out there.

For a mother to think a mask makes a child a target but not a service dog is odd.
I'm wondering what doctor signed off as this child being disabled. How they convinced the state they live in that a dog is needed for their son.
I hope I'm not paying for it with my taxes.

I don't believe there are any service animal training programs that are state/federally funded. Every one I've found it a 501c3 non-profit. Any expenses incurred after the dog is placed is the responsibility of the owner (vet bills, food, toys, etc.)

Interesting about how "free air travel" has become a part of this conversation.

Where did free air travel come into play? I must have missed that.

What about the families with kids that have severe asthma attacks from dog dander.....is the family of the "WDW dog" going to pay to fumigate a room the next family goes into?
Should nuts be not allowed on WDW property? Talk about policing.

If someone has severe asthma from dog dander they can request a special room clean just like anyone else can depending on what they're allergic to.

These boards are tough on those who are in the beginning stages of getting a service animal or looking to see if one would work for you. Especially if it's not for something straight up like a guide dog. I wish people would be more open minded about it.

 

[cinderella73]

Try not to let it get you down. People understand and really, you've lost nothing.

Thanks... I shouldnt get so fired up. I guess I just felt attacked . I need to learn to not let people like that upset me.


honugirl- Yeah, I am so stressed right now waiting to hear back from the dog training place. Keeping everyones advice in mind and depending on what the woman replies this could or could not work out.

I guess I will stick to reading about peoples experience with the animals and not posting.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Interesting about how "free air travel" has become a part of this conversation.

Nope, not free air travel. The trainers (the ones with whom the poster in question was going to deal) would, if needed, travel from their state to her home at no charge to her. No "free air travel".

 

[Mommytobree]

I have no time to read through 32 pages of threads, but to the OP:

I'm sorry that happened. The plane should have been cleaned, end of story. You should never, ever have been treated like that. Kuddos to you on keeping your cool-I don't know how you did it. I would have been seeing red.

I hope that someone takes your letter seriously-I don't think this person should be in any public service position!

 

[dimimi]

I am not going to use a untrained puppy at WDW to sniff at nuts. I cant use a puppy thats not trained in the first place.How would I do that? In fact I wont even agree to take the puppy anymore after what other posters told me. You have to remember I am new and learning about the whole allergy dog thing. Its new to me . But I never would have tried to use a untrained dog to sniff something out. It would have been a physical impossibility. I would have had to bring him on the trip with us though I am told to get him used to traveling with us and he cant be left at home alone for 2 weeks either.

Again a mute point since I will request that I only take on a fully trained dog now anyway.

My husband and I have raised 2 seeing eye puppies. We let the puppies be puppies for the first year to 14 months. We are expected to teach basic commands and socialize them. We also are required to do basic things, such as have them comfortable in a kennel (they are in a kennel at the Seeing Eye for their training,) not have table food, sleep at the foot of our bed, keep the dog on leash, etc. The dogs then go through a long training process and then are paired with possible clients. Then they have a long (a couple weeks) training with their new owner. Our first dog had to go through the training camp twice! and our second dog only once.

I do know some people try to train the dogs on their own, but that is usually after they have gone through it professionally the first time. Our neighbor did it on his own, but he had already had a helper dog and was getting another helper dog. (He was a paraplegic and the dog picked things up for him, etc.)

Good luck!

 

[kaytieeldr]

I'm sorry that happened. The plane should have been cleaned, end of story.

For the benefit of posters who haven't read the whole thread before posting , as a matter of standard procedure planes are not cleaned between flights. There simply isn't time. They need to turn the planes around and get them back in the air as quickly as possible. Delays ripple through the schedule; the later an 8 AM departure actually leaves, the more delayed each of that plane's flights become throughout the day.

The OP's seating area apparently DID get cleaned, after she pointed out the problem to the Flight Crew. Any peanut-free buffer applies only to the actual flight, not any preceding flight that day.
While she waited in the jetway for the cleaning, the airline employee with her behaved abominably.

 

[Disneyadore]

Just wondering. The dog is allowed to get into the rides?
What happens in SM or any other attractions if the dog sniffs peanuts?
Do you leave the attraction, do you ask the others to get rid off the peanuts or to leave the ride?
I think you will get very nasty answers if you ask people this.

There will be many many stressful situations I’m afraid.

 

[disfan07]

I'm sorry that happened. The plane should have been cleaned, end of story

Nope. sorry. wrong. Even on southwest, who IMO is the best at dealing with this allergy, they state under customers with disablities...
"We suggest that Customers with peanut dust allergies book travel on early morning flights as our aircraft undergo a thorough cleaning only at the end of the day."
"Southwest cannot prevent other Customers from bringing peanuts or products containing peanuts onboard our flights. In addition, Southwest cannot give assurances that remnants of peanuts and/or peanut dust/oil will not remain on the aircraft floor, seats, or tray tables from flights earlier in the aircraft’s routing"

Its right there in black and white. They do their regular cleaning in between flights which means they clean as fast as possible to get a tur around. They're not going to be vacumming up peanut remnants off teh floor.

Delta:
"When you notify us that you have a peanut allergy, we'll create a buffer zone of three rows in front of and three rows behind your seat. We'll also advise cabin service to board additional non-peanut snacks, which will allow our flight attendants to serve these snack items to everyone within this area.

Gate agents will be notified in case you'd like to pre-board and cleanse the immediate seating area."

Just liek southwest, they give you a chance to clean the area yourself. They cannot guarantee that it will be peanut free ESPECIALLY if it is not the first flight.


I just don't get what is so hard to understand about these policies. NO airline can guarantee a peanut free flight. And they cannot delay a plane becasue of one person. If the OPs request would cause the plane to be delayed as it seems it was, the airlie had every right to escort the off the plane. Delta made no promises that the flight would be peanut free. They only said that they would not serve peanuts in the "buffer zone" on THAT flight. ot o the flights before.
OP...if your son is that allergic, you shoudl not have flown delta. End of story.

Next time fly jetblue. They dont serve peanuts. Its less likely that it will happen.