All resort non-smoking

[Boston5602]

I wish they would have announced this policy change 11 months in advance . I have friends who smoke coming on my next trip. They are considerate smokers and asked about Disney's smoking policy's . When I booked 2 months ago I was able to tell them designated areas in the parks and we would have a smoking room . Not a problem. They may have chosen to go somewhere else if we had known.

Also we have a smoking room end of May and check out the 4th of June. Will we be able to check in a smoking room and have it stay that way? hmmmmm


I'm glad this change happened , I just do not like the implementation of announcing it!

Now I guess I'll be requesting rooms at end of the hallway instead of just smoking room at BWV . I like being closer to MGM to walk to.

 

[MrsNick]

As long as the room is clean and smoke free for the next guest, who cares? If it's worth it to you, go for it!

Jarestel, not only clean and smoke free, but also ready for the next guest's use at check-in time. I know I'd be a little miffed if I couldn't get into my room until 6:00 or 7:00 PM because the guest before me smoked and it took that much longer for the room to be ready.

 

[pilferk]

Jarestel, not only clean and smoke free, but also ready for the next guest's use at check-in time. I know I'd be a little miffed if I couldn't get into my room until 6:00 or 7:00 PM because the guest before me smoked and it took that much longer for the room to be ready.

One option would be to take the room out of service and replace it with one of the rooms reserved in case of emergency maintenance. Of course, that largely depends on how often/numerous the violations are....the effected rooms could, I suppose, overwhelm the supply of "swap out" rooms.

 

[Finny]

I wonder if people who plan on breaking the rule, will be happy to break the rule, if instead of charging $250-500 at the end of your stay, you are asked to leave immediately. Or if they start charging the $250-500 a night?

 

[BostonDisneyKid]

I just got off the phone with MS and was told the following:

"The imposed fines for DVC resorts will be $250 for a studio, $300 for a 1BRV, $350 for a 2 BRV and $400 for a GV. This will be charged directly to the credit card on file for the room in question and in the event there isnt one on file, it will be applied directly to the DVC owners account and treated as dues in arears and must be paid in full before any additional booking can be made on that account. It will be a one time charge regardless of the duration of the stay"

I jokingly asked, 'so if someone were caught on day 1 they could continue to smoke anywhere they wanted for the duration of the stay?' and was told "yes" so again, I asked jokingly, 'can this be prepaid in advance' and she laughed and said, "no, because if you didnt get caught then you woudnt have to pay at all, why turn yourself in?"

So, as many have already said, good luck with enforcement...

 

[smjj]

Here's the simple fact people....I'm still going to smoke in my room. Only now I won't be in a room designated as a smoking room. If that costs me $250-$500 extra for my trip, so be it. Nothing anyone can say here is going to change that fact.

Tell me again why the rules apply to all but you. I must have missed something. I believe WDW is well within their right to take this action but if you think you are above the rules, then go ahead. I guess there is one in every group. I think this thread is well past its intended pupose and I hereby retire from posting on it. I just hope the good ole USA can survive this immient thread to our god given right to make or break any rule we deem unfair..smjj

 

[pilferk]

I just got off the phone with MS and was told the following:

"The imposed fines for DVC resorts will be $250 for a studio, $300 for a 1BRV, $350 for a 2 BRV and $400 for a GV. This will be charged directly to the credit card on file for the room in question and in the event there isnt one on file, it will be applied directly to the DVC owners account and treated as dues in arears and must be paid in full before any additional booking can be made on that account. It will be a one time charge regardless of the duration of the stay"

I jokingly asked, 'so if someone were caught on day 1 they could continue to smoke anywhere they wanted for the duration of the stay?' and was told "yes" so again, I asked jokingly, 'can this be prepaid in advance' and she laughed and said, "no, because if you didnt get caught then you woudnt have to pay at all, why turn yourself in?"

So, as many have already said, good luck with enforcement...

MS is being pretty up front about info on the new policy. Anyone who has questions should just give them a call.

And I don't know....I'm not a smoker so can't gauge what the "craving" would inspire me to do...but $250 - $400 seems like it would be a pretty good deterrent to most folks. Just the CHANCE of having that tacked on to my bill would discourage me from just about anything I could think of doing....and if it doesn't discourage you, the extra $$ for cleanup will pretty much ensure that nobody will notice what you've done, anyway.

 

[jarestel]

Jarestel, not only clean and smoke free, but also ready for the next guest's use at check-in time. I know I'd be a little miffed if I couldn't get into my room until 6:00 or 7:00 PM because the guest before me smoked and it took that much longer for the room to be ready.

Good point! As for me, though I wouldn't be happy, I'd wait the extra time rather than accept a partially cleaned room. But I would make it clear that the fines should be raised to whatever level required to avoid an inconvenience for the next guest.

 

[MrsNick]

MS is being pretty up front about info on the new policy. Anyone who has questions should just give them a call.

And I don't know....I'm not a smoker so can't gauge what the "craving" would inspire me to do...but $250 - $400 seems like it would be a pretty good deterrent to most folks. Just the CHANCE of having that tacked on to my bill would discourage me from just about anything I could think of doing....and if it doesn't discourage you, the extra $$ for cleanup will pretty much ensure that nobody will notice what you've done, anyway.

Pilferk, the $$ for cleanup is only if that particular guest is caught. According to BostonKid, MS even said "Why would you turn yourself in?" This could well end up being a huge can of worms as non-smokers check-in to rooms that were smoked in, but not detected by mousekeeping (or whomever is saddled with this responsibility), and complain to the front desk that their room reeks.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

MS is being pretty up front about info on the new policy. Anyone who has questions should just give them a call.

And I don't know....I'm not a smoker so can't gauge what the "craving" would inspire me to do...but $250 - $400 seems like it would be a pretty good deterrent to most folks. Just the CHANCE of having that tacked on to my bill would discourage me from just about anything I could think of doing....and if it doesn't discourage you, the extra $$ for cleanup will pretty much ensure that nobody will notice what you've done, anyway.

I know some people who stay in a one bedroom for a month. The amount of dues they pay for that many points, I can't even begin to imagine. I don't think the $300 would phase them. One of the two is a smoker.

Now I'm even more convinced that this is just going to make every room on property a smoking optional room.

 

[jejojual]

I have read this thread off an on for the last 24 hours. I just have to ask a question to those posters who insist that they will continue to smoke in their rooms. Like many other people, I have two children who react very badly to smoke - as do my husband and I. Obviously we request non-smoking rooms. We do this because we don't want to spend the vacation treating breathing and coughing difficulties in our kids - we want to have a great vacation. I understand you feel "jipped" or like you got the rug pulled out from under you because you bought into this assuming there would be smoking rooms. (Yes, I have read the posts - I know it was never promised in contracts, etc.) I have no doubt that in the traditional Disney way there will be very nice, clean designated smoking areas close to the area. I realize that may be an added pain - especially if its cold, raining, etc. But - and here is my question - on behalf of the kids and/or adults who really, honestly, can not be around smoke - either through the vents or from the balcony - can you please respect the rule Disney has asked us to abide by? I try really hard to teach our kids to be respectful of other guests. They aren't allowed to run in the halls or be loud late at night. I don't want them to disrupt someone else's vacation. I'm simply asking for the same respect in return.

 

[jarestel]

Pilferk, the $$ for cleanup is only if that particular guest is caught. According to BostonKid, MS even said "Why would you turn yourself in?" This could well end up being a huge can of worms as non-smokers check-in to rooms that were smoked in, but not detected by mousekeeping (or whomever is saddled with this responsibility), and complain to the front desk that their room reeks.

I will be happy to be a "Disney deputy" and turn in anyone who has previously smoked in the room to which I am assigned. Especially if I just signed a document stating I am responsible for any residual tobacco remnants in the room. Believe me, my DW will detect immediately if our room has been sullied by a previous occupant.

 

[Chuck S]

The policy itself, if implemented fully, may mean additional delay in getting into rooms...if housekeepers have to take the time to thoroughly check rooms and verify/document whether it was or was not smoked in between each guest.

One can almost assume from BostonKid's post that no one is going to check during your stay, unless a neighbor reports you, but any fines will most likely be imposed during the cleaning after check-out.

 

[F4disneyfan]

I have read this thread off an on for the last 24 hours. I just have to ask a question to those posters who insist that they will continue to smoke in their rooms. Like many other people, I have two children who react very badly to smoke - as do my husband and I. Obviously we request non-smoking rooms. We do this because we don't want to spend the vacation treating breathing and coughing difficulties in our kids - we want to have a great vacation. I understand you feel "jipped" or like you got the rug pulled out from under you because you bought into this assuming there would be smoking rooms. (Yes, I have read the posts - I know it was never promised in contracts, etc.) I have no doubt that in the traditional Disney way there will be very nice, clean designated smoking areas close to the area. I realize that may be an added pain - especially if its cold, raining, etc. But - and here is my question - on behalf of the kids and/or adults who really, honestly, can not be around smoke - either through the vents or from the balcony - can you please respect the rule Disney has asked us to abide by? I try really hard to teach our kids to be respectful of other guests. They aren't allowed to run in the halls or be loud late at night. I don't want them to disrupt someone else's vacation. I'm simply asking for the same respect in return.

Great post and for those that do decide to smoke know this if I am around and see it or smell it I won't be to shy to call the resort desk and be standing in front of your room to rat you out no questions no explanations nothing.

 

[Connor' Dad]

Tell me again why the rules apply to all but you. I must have missed something. I believe WDW is well within their right to take this action but if you think you are above the rules, then go ahead. I guess there is one in every group. I think this thread is well past its intended pupose and I hereby retire from posting on it. I just hope the good ole USA can survive this immient thread to our god given right to make or break any rule we deem unfair..smjj

Actually, the rules do apply to them as they are aware and ready to pay the fine. If the rules didn't apply no fine would be given them.

 

[Y-ASK]

So, is this draconian rule actually posted on the DVC site yet???

At least you used the word "draconian" correctly in a sentence but I don't think anyone is being threaten with death if they break "the rule".


Draco
Athenian lawgiver whose harsh legal code punished both trivial and serious crimes in Athens with death—hence the continued use of the word "draconian" to describe repressive legal measures.

 

[MrsNick]

I will be happy to be a "Disney deputy" and turn in anyone who has previously smoked in the room to which I am assigned. Especially if I just signed a document stating I am responsible for any residual tobacco remnants in the room.

Yes, but assuming that everyone checks-in at roughly 4:00 PM (give or take), and the front desk receives several simultaneous complaints of stinky rooms, could mouseeeping be overwhelmed by cleaning requests all at the same time?

Although I would certainly report the issue (as I would any other issue like a broken door knob or whatever), I know I wouldn't be thrilled with the inconvenience.

 

[jarestel]

I know some people who stay in a one bedroom for a month. The amount of dues they pay for that many points, I can't even begin to imagine. I don't think the $300 would phase them. One of the two is a smoker.

Now I'm even more convinced that this is just going to make every room on property a smoking optional room.

Well, we can't just eliminate every rule or policy that someone has broken at one time or another or there would be no rules and policies at all. Let's see how this plays out over the next few months rather than try and "see the future" through our swami hats.

 

[ddave]

Again, I ask the serious question: Why should the smokers "right to smoke" trump the non-smokers right to enjoy the balcony/patio that is part of their room at any time they wish?

And vice versa. It's OUTSIDE. So, if i have a 1st floor room, I can step off of the patio and smoke on the grass 1 inch from the patio, true? I'm not in the room and I'm not on the patio/balcony. If your answer is no, then I would assume I can't smoke in the parking lot either?

 

[childsplay]

I guess I just don't see enforcement as that big of a problem. If done correctly, I think it will pretty much eliminate smoking in the villas in relatively short order (say 2-3 years max).
First of all, the vast majority of people don't smoke.
Second, of the number that do, the vast majority of them will abide by the rules (even if they don't like them) because that's who they are as people.
I had a Sociology professor who once said that the punishments that are written for breaking rules are written for less than 5% of the total population...meaning that the vast majority of people simply follow the rules because it's the right thing to do and don't require the added "incentive" or more correctly "disincentive" of the punishment.