You must be swift as the coursing river (as long as it's the Lazy River) - comments welcome

Yes, all of that makes it hard. :) I found that leading up to that and then really for most of the rest of the race there was very little shade. And a lot of pavement to absorb and emit heat.
All that makes sense. I'll let you know if I feel differently about the bridge after the race 😅

You are rocking your training. I'm starting on the "hope it's cool for MCM" vibes. I root for that every year, even if I'm not running. Spoiler alert: it doesn't usually work!
Thanks! I'll take all the good vibes I can get...
 
My race packet arrived today! The shirt is a dark gray quarter-zip and has the race course on the back with some of the major monuments on the route, which is pretty cool. Downside, it's VERY thin and seems kind of see-through? I can see the back design through the front when I hold it up to the light 🤨

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Front and back of MCM race shirt

Yes, I am a local, but the expo is in National Harbor for some reason, and not having to take an hour+ trip out there to pick up my bib seemed very worth $20 or whatever it was. So I have all my race stuff already with 20 days to go! 😮
What a cool shirt! Bet when you put it on, it's not see-through, just light. Some of their shirt designs have been questionable in recent years, but seems like you got a good one.

I did the MCM 10k for two years before I did the marathon, and that was when the expo was in the Armory. I could actually Metro it from Silver Spring, and not too bad of a trip. But then they switched to National Harbor the year I did the marathon, and what a pain in the neck! The parking cost an arm and a leg, it's literally halfway around the beltway from where I live - that is, Google says it's the same travel time either way around. You definitely made a good choice on that. Blah.
 
I did the MCM 10k for two years before I did the marathon, and that was when the expo was in the Armory. I could actually Metro it from Silver Spring, and not too bad of a trip. But then they switched to National Harbor the year I did the marathon, and what a pain in the neck! The parking cost an arm and a leg, it's literally halfway around the beltway from where I live - that is, Google says it's the same travel time either way around. You definitely made a good choice on that. Blah.
I would have had no problem with the Armory. Or, you know, we have an enormous convention center right in the middle of the city...🙃
 
My race packet arrived today! The shirt is a dark gray quarter-zip and has the race course on the back with some of the major monuments on the route, which is pretty cool. Downside, it's VERY thin and seems kind of see-through? I can see the back design through the front when I hold it up to the light 🤨

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Front and back of MCM race shirt

Yes, I am a local, but the expo is in National Harbor for some reason, and not having to take an hour+ trip out there to pick up my bib seemed very worth $20 or whatever it was. So I have all my race stuff already with 20 days to go! 😮
Whenever I've done the local Hot Chocolate race, I pay the fee for the mailing option. It's just so much easier to not fight traffic, pay tolls, pay to park, etc. I figure between all of that, $20 may be the cheaper option anyway.
 

October 7 - 14, 2024
Marathon training week 14 | 14 days until MCM

In which...NOW I have The Hunger?

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Week 14 schedule

Monday
Easy/strides: 7 miles (9:20), avg. HR 149, max 169, 91% Z1-2, T+D~135 ☀️
Core

My knee was about the same as the end of last week, I think. Still a little weird, like something was slightly out of place, but not consistently or painfully. I did make a PT appointment just in case, but the first opening they had wasn't until the 17th 😕

Other than that, I was feeling kind of blah at one point and couldn't figure out why, but then I realized I was listening to my local-happenings podcast and they spent what seemed like forever talking about Love is Blind DC, and I really, really do not care. So lesson learned: just skip the reality TV show recap episodes 😆

Tuesday
Workout: 2 mile WU + 4 x 1 min uphill + 20 min @ LTP + 3 min RI + 4 x 30s uphill + 2 mile CD
Total: 9.07 miles, avg. HR ???, T+D~105
☀️
Lower body strength

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Workout analysis chart and laps

Nice weather! I could have done with a little less wind but it was mostly blocked when I was working hard, so it's fine.

I realized as I was starting my threshold interval that maybe building up lactate with hill reps was not the best appetizer for NOT breaking lactate threshold. Although this workout is adapted from a Daniels workout, just with hill reps subbed for 200s at R. So maybe that's the point? Anyway, I started out on the slower end and kind of worked my way down - which is probably how you're supposed to do it in any case. I think that's the longest duration of LT I've done in one go.

Then more hill reps, which sucked, but they were over quickly. I actually felt pretty good on the way home. I don't think my watch ever really got a good read on my HR, though. It's not very good at it when the temps start to drop.

Oh yeah, here's another brilliant insight from Strava's AI:
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Apparently it missed the part where this was a workout...with hills...and therefore I don't really care about my overall average pace or the (absolute) pace of my hill reps 😅🤦‍♀️

On the strength, my knee had issues with weighted lunges and squats, so I ended up lifting much lighter than I normally would. That's fine in terms of tapering for the marathon but a little worrying as far as my ability to run the marathon is concerned 🙁

Wednesday
Easy: 5.74 miles (9:37), avg. HR ???, T+D~105 ☀️

Why my run was 5.74 miles instead of 6: That's where I tripped over a bit of uneven sidewalk and went flying. Somehow I escaped with only a couple of minor scrapes and a sore wrist but I walked the rest of the way home.

By the evening, every one of my limbs was complaining about some kind of ache. Right knee, right elbow, left wrist: unplanned encounter with sidewalk. Left deltoid: flu/covid shots, which I went to get at lunchtime. Left knee/hip: unknown, probably training-related. I felt old 👵

Thursday
Medium-long: 12 miles (9:39), avg. HR 153, max 165, 95% Z1-2
Core

Possibly because of all of my issues from yesterday, my legs were rather stiff and achy on this run, particularly my left hip/glute. My HR was also a bit higher than I would have expected, but that might have been a side effect of the vaccines. (My resting heart rate was a touch higher than normal overnight too.)

With a sore wrist and a sore elbow, planks were kind of off the table, so I made my own workout without them. Plenty of options! 45s on/15s off: dead bug, side crunch (L&R), reclined twist, back bow, side leg lift (L&R), inside thigh raise (L&R), heel tap, knee tuck crunch, butterfly bridge, leg raise, scissor kick.

Friday
Easy/strides: 7.3 miles (9:44), avg. HR 149, max 162, 99% Z1-2
Upper body strength

I felt kind of tired on this one. And basically my whole rear chain on the left side was pretty stiff. Not painful, but it took a while to loosen up. I started to do strides, but my left hamstring wasn't a fan, so I stopped after the first two.

Saturday
Long: 2 mile WU + 3 x 1 mile @ MP+30s/1 mile @ MP/1 mile @ MP-30s/3 min RI + 4.5 mile CD
Total: 16.32 miles, avg. HR 156, max 172, T+D~95-115
☀️

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Workout analysis chart and laps

Last serious long run of the plan, and I went into it feeling a little apprehensive. One, my last long run workout did not go well at all. Two, my left knee had been bugging me all week, albeit not actually while running. And three, after feeling really strong a few weeks ago, the past few days I felt like I had been working harder and getting less.

At least the weather was pretty good.

I made honey cake on Friday, so I had a piece of that with some coffee for a quick breakfast. Real coffee, not decaf like I normally do these days, which made me feel SO AWAKE LIKE MOREAWAKETHANIHAVEEVERBEENINMYLIFEEVER 🫨. Lol. I'm still debating whether that's a good idea for race day - I think my HR was also significantly higher than normal at the beginning of the run because of it.

Despite the high HR, I felt okay. Not great, but okay. I actually felt better when I started to pick up the pace, though all three of the HMP intervals felt pretty difficult. I was slow on all of them too. My knee didn't hurt, but I had a quite noticeable ache in my hip for much of the run, which was worrying. I also kind of felt like I was working a little harder than I wanted to be aerobically, which was also not ideal.

I got side stitches twice, too - once in the first rep and once in the third one. I managed to make the first one go away without really slowing down, but I had to stop for a minute with the second one. It took a bit longer than that to go away completely, but at least it wasn't quite so bad.

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The view along the (paved) Capital Crescent Trail where I do most of my long runs

I told myself I would plan for three reps, and if I felt really amazing I could do four. As you can probably tell, I did not feel amazing, so I did not force the fourth rep. Probably for the best. I'm trying not to burn all my matches in training.

I did see a couple of articles saying side effects from covid/flu shots can last several days, so mayyyyybe that was a factor? If it is, I should feel better next week, so we'll see.

Even though there's no one place I can point to and say "Yup, that was too much," I'm also second-guessing whether I've pushed too hard over the whole training cycle and have now just crossed the line into...not really overtraining, because I don't think it's quite that bad, but that general direction. But also maybe I'm just overthinking it and will be fine after the taper. I DON'T KNOW THINGS.

I think my taper madness has already begun 🫠

Sunday
Yoga

I watched the Chicago Marathon this morning, and 🤯.That was so fast. Just an incredible race.

My knee/hip were feeling a bit better, but still a little cranky. I decided instead of the next day of Flow, I should just find some stretchy yoga (especially since my wrist was still sore). The first video I tried started with at least eight minutes of sitting and breathing, which was NOT what I was looking for 😅 But the second one worked out okay. I added a bit of extra stretching for my hamstrings and glutes.

Also I made pretzels, because I have been starving basically all week. I love pretzels 🤤

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Seven pretzels on parchment paper-lined sheet pans. My favorite part of the pretzel is the twist in the middle, so when I make my own pretzels, I make braids, so I can have the whole pretzel basically be the twist in the middle.

Totals
Running: 8h 57m, 57.58 miles
Strength/mobility: 2h 16m
Total: 11h 13m

Apparently I have too many photos in this post, so no room for training logs! (Pretzels >>> training logs)

Coming up
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Week 15 schedule

I keep overthinking the next couple of weeks. I wasn't sure why I put speed work less than two weeks out from a marathon, but I flipped through the books I have and that's actually pretty common. So I kept it, tentatively, but we'll see how the strides go on Monday and whether faster paces might be an injury risk. In which case I have a backup plan that involves M/T pace and the half-mile hill.

Also, a forecast!
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Too soon, but I don't hate it! That wouldn't be bad at all, especially if it stays cloudy. Of course, who even knows what will happen between now and race day...
 
Those pretzels look awesome!

I wouldn't worry about the possibility of overtraining. You're in a good place. Stay positive. Leave the evaluation period until after the race is over to maintain the motivation before/during the race.
 
Those pretzels look awesome!

I wouldn't worry about the possibility of overtraining. You're in a good place. Stay positive. Leave the evaluation period until after the race is over to maintain the motivation before/during the race.
Thanks! I don't entirely feel in a great place at the moment, but I think some of that is just taper madness, so I'm trying to chill out and ignore it 🫠
 
I was thinking that you were very brave to get your flu/covid shots during such a peak time in your training, and then you said...
I did see a couple of articles saying side effects from covid/flu shots can last several days, so mayyyyybe that was a factor? If it is, I should feel better next week, so we'll see.
Um...yeah. I tend to react very strongly to the covid shots, so I'm kind of exceptional (hey!), but yeah. I planned for a whole three days to recover from my flu/covid shots this year but fortunately the Novavax version gave me fewer side effects. I'm sure you'll shake it off quickly.

The weather forecast isn't looking too bad! I've said when I did it 2017 that it was quite unseasonably warm and sunny. A work colleague of mine ran it a couple of years later (feel like it was 2019) and they had apocalyptic pouring rain for the first couple of hours, then it completely cleared off and the Sun came out and it turned into a steam bath. If you just get some showers (which means it's not sunny), sounds like a deal! :)

Those pretzels look delicious!
 
October 14 - 20, 2024
Marathon training week 15 | 7 days until MCM

In which the countdown begins

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Week 15 original schedule

Monday
Easy/strides: 7.36 miles (9:40), avg. HR 149, max 163, 97% Z1-2
Core

It was windy. I actually managed to have the wind at my back - or at least not in my face - for I think the majority of the run, but the headwind was ROUGH.

My hip ached a bit, but it mostly went away if I concentrated on relaxing (as contradictory as that sounds). It was definitely the most uncomfortable when I was doing strides, though, so I decided speed work was out for Tuesday, and hills were in.

Tuesday
New workout: 1.5 mile WU + 2 x 1 mile @ MP/0.5 miles @ LTP/1 mile @ MP/0.5 miles easy + 1.5 mile CD
In other words: 2 x (up+down @ M/up @ T/down+up @ M/down @ E)
Total: 9.56 miles, avg. HR 156, max 171 (maybe)

Lower body strength

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Workout analysis chart and splits. I accidentally hit the lap button at the bottom of the hill in the middle of the second MP interval, which mostly just confirms that I'm better at running downhill than uphill.

I actually felt decent! I wore my race shoes so I could make sure they were okay with my new socks (I had a discount for the local running store that was about to expire, and socks are always a good investment). Every time I run in these, I think to myself how light they are 🪶

I swapped the original speed work I had planned because Monday's strides made my hip uncomfortable. While I did have a few twinges from my knee/hip here and there, it definitely felt better, which was encouraging. My HR data still seemed questionable, and because all the quality work was on hills, pacing was hard to judge. But if Strava's GAP is right (it's not, but let's go with it for now), I was surprisingly fast on everything. And right now, I'll take that.

One issue I did have was with my Naked running belt, which kept sliding down my hips. I couldn't tell if it had stretched out or if I had shrunk. By coincidence, though, I may have answered that question later on Tuesday (which I'm putting behind spoiler tags because it's about weight/fueling and I know that can be triggering for people).

So I don't own a scale. But I had my annual physical at the beginning of August and my annual gyno visit today (meaning Tuesday), and somewhere in that time I lost about 7 pounds. That's not a ton of weight, but I was not trying to lose any weight at all. In general I don't think it's a great idea to try to lose weight in conjunction with intense training. That way lies injury.

Is part of me still thinking, "Go me!"? Sure. I live in this messed-up, weight-obsessed society too. But from a more analytical/scientific standpoint, I really don't think this is a positive. Again, it's not a lot of weight, but it makes me wonder if some of the fatigue/struggle I've been feeling the past few weeks is just underfueling. Damn, I guess I'll just have to eat more 😅

Anyway, I sighed and ordered a new running belt so I wouldn't spend the whole marathon tugging it back up on my hips. Don't let anyone tell you running is a cheap hobby 🙃

I stuck with lighter weights for the strength training, but I felt better than last week, happily.

Wednesday
Easy: 6 miles (9:43), avg. HR ???

My knee and hip complained a little, but overall the trend is still positive. My HR reading was way off - I was seeing ~120 bpm running 9:40 pace 3 miles into the run, and I don't think my HR has ever been 120 while running except maybe for the first 11 seconds. So that wasn't very helpful. It was easy though.

Thursday
Medium-long: 8 miles (9:39), avg. HR 147, max 159, 100% Z1-2
Yoga/core

Mornings have been quite chilly this week. While I was able to move my runs to lunchtime on Tuesday and Wednesday, on Thursday I had PT at lunchtime and had to run in the morning. It was in the low 40s with a stiff breeze and I didn't like it.

Other than that, I felt okay. My knee/hip actually didn't bother me. My legs did feel pretty tired, especially as the run went on, which was a little annoying, but hopefully that'll resolve itself in the course of the taper.

PT was fine. Their conclusion was that I need to strengthen my hip, so I have some new exercises for that. Probably didn't need to be googling stress fracture symptoms last week 🫠

Friday
Easy/strides: 6 miles (9:32), avg. HR 151, max 167
Upper body strength

Back to lunchtime running. No hip issues this time. A few painful twinges from the back of my knee, but nothing terrible. I even did the strides without any problems, so that was good. And my legs felt moderately less fatigued, maybe.

Saturday
Long: 3.3 miles easy + 5 x 1 mile @ MP/2 min RI + 1.7 miles easy
Total: 11.11 miles, avg. HR 155, max 174


Once again I felt mostly decent. I didn't have any trouble with the mile repeats, which is good because if five by a mile at marathon pace eight days before your marathon is hard, you might have a problem 😂

Happily, my new running belt arrived on Friday, so I got to try it out. Much less bouncing/slipping!

I did get a couple of twinges from my knee running up the steep hill on the way back but was okay otherwise. At least there shouldn't be anything that steep on the course. My legs also still felt pretty fatigued. They have one more week to recover... 😬

Sunday
Yoga

Feeling pretty good. This was a nice little flow.

Totals
Running: 7h 30m, 48.18 miles
Strength/mobility: 1h 59m
Total: 9h 30m

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Weekly training log

Still kind of tired but things seem to be improving slowly.

Coming up
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Week 16 schedule

RACE WEEK 😱

You'll see me again before then - I still want to think out a race plan "out loud" once we get a few days closer, and then I'll do my weekly recap on Saturday before the race. But it's really all just trying not to trip and break my ankle at this point 😅
 
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Good luck with MCM. You're going to crush it!! 🐢

(I tried to paste an inspirational picture of Crush the Sea Turtle, but DisBoards had its pajamas on already for the night and wasn't having it - you'll just have to imagine it instead :goodvibes)
 
Good luck with the MCM. As noted above, the weather should be near perfect.

Amen about the bridge and no shade. All of our bridges in Atlanta are short and I don't think much about regular ones when I'm driving, so it was an eye-opening to be running across the Potomac and how long it was. Washington (the person) throwing a silver dollar across? I don't think so. (No silver dollar yet, either).

Not sure if I'll make the time to do that race again, but I'm darned glad I did it at least once, and I'll be thinking about you.
 
MCM race plan
In which I overthink things

Thanks everyone for the well-wishes! I have to keep reminding myself that I have done all of the training and there is now nothing more I can do to improve my fitness. The only thing left is to figure out what I'm doing on race day. As usual, I have spent way too much time thinking about this. Send help 😂

First, logistics. I have made myself a packing list:
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I feel like most of this is pretty self-explanatory, but maybe not everything.
  • I plan to wear my Hoka Oras to the race and change into my Metaspeed Edge Paris-es when I get there. That way my race shoes get a little less worn out, and I have something to change into after the race.
  • Earrings are obviously not terribly important, but I like to wear studs on race day and tend to forget to put them in.
  • I will take two Tylenol shortly before the race starts. It's not enough to mask any real pain, but I think it helps. And it's not an NSAID, so it should be safe. I will eat the stroopwafel at that point too.
  • Honestly I was not that impressed with the post-race snacks advertised, so I'm bringing my own, with options depending on how I feel.
  • Hopefully I can find a place to change afterwards (that's not a port-a-potty).
I've already started setting things out because I'm paranoid I'm going to forget something important.

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Things to pack

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Flat me. I'll toss the gray top as the temps rise.

So that's everything I need to take with me. Did I forget anything?

As far as timing goes, I'm planning to leave around 6, bike to the Metro (which will save me 15 minutes of walking), and take the Metro to Pentagon station. I should get there by about 6:30. People who have done MCM before, does that seem reasonable? I keep seeing people say to get there early, but I don't know what "early" means to them, so that's not particularly helpful 😅 The goal is to have enough time to get through security, hit the portas, drop off my gear, do a light 8-10 minute jog*, pop over to the portas again, and then head to the starting area. I feel like an hour and a half should be plenty of time for all that, right?

* I wasn't sure whether running should be part of my marathon warm-up (I'm already running 26.2 miles; why would I add more??), but I recently started listening to Megan and David Roche's podcast, Some Work All Play, and in one of the first episodes I listened to, they talked about a study showing that it's good to prime your body for running even for longer races. So, okay then, I will try it.

For fueling/hydration, I'll have six gels: 3 UCAN and 3 GU. I will plan to take one every 40 minutes, which I will remember to do because I will have a timer on my watch for it. I will also have a 500 mL flask of Skratch, which I will supplement with on-course water (particularly when I want to take a GU) and refill with plain water once it's empty. I'll also carry some SaltStick chews, which I may or may not use.

Okay. Now let's talk racing and pacing. Just for fun, I checked the race equivalents for my 45:50 10K and 21:59 5K from the first half of the year.
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Weirdly, if I enter both the 5K and the 10K into the 538 calculator, it comes up with 3:52:26 (8:52 pace). This makes no sense to me, since each time individually produced a 3:38 and change marathon. Plus, last year I ran a 3:50 high in less-than-ideal conditions, and I'm confident my fitness is better now than it was then. So that one is hard to explain or credit.

Then there's Runalyze.
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I'm skeptical of this one as well, since my most recent PRs are faster than the prognosis here. And Runalyze doesn't seem to believe in a taper - if I look back a couple of weeks to the peak of my training, its prognosis drops to a 3:36:57. (I have a whole bunch of other thoughts about this algorithm, but if I go into them here, I'll never get to the actual race plan, so let's table that for now. We can delve into those later if anyone is interested.)

Another tip I heard on a podcast somewhere was if you were able to pick up the pace in your last marathon, take your average pace for the last 10K and use that as your starting point. Thanks to the timing mat placement at Space Coast, I know I ran the last 10K in 52 minutes, which is 8:22 pace or about a 3:40 marathon.

Looking at my training, things have been mostly good, with only one or two epic fails. I seem to do particularly well in my race shoes, which I'll take as a good sign:
  • September HM at M pace: finished in 1:48:30 (officially 8:17 pace) feeling very comfortable
  • Last week's M/T hill workout where I averaged somewhere around a 7:48 GAP for the M intervals - almost certainly this was too fast, but it felt comfortable, so it's still worth something
More realistically, in my last significant LR workout (wearing my Novablasts), my MP intervals averaged somewhere around 8:10, and I wasn't feeling particularly good that day.

Aside: A month ago, I would have been a bit excited about the even the small possibility of a BQ (not that I would have expected to get into Boston with a 3:34:58 or whatever, but it would have been cool to say that I ran a BQ anyway), but then they went and changed the times on me. Since sub-3:30 seems like a stretch, to say the least, I'm not worried about it. Someday it will happen, even if I have to wait until I turn 40 and get those 5 minutes back (assuming they don't move the goalposts again 😮‍💨).

So what do I make of all this? If I had to guess, I'd say I could run somewhere in the 3:35-3:40 range (8:12-8:23 pace). The race is relatively flat and the weather looks good, so I shouldn't need to do too much adjustment overall there. (I would actually take a slightly warmer starting temp than the low-to-mid 40s forecast, but I can't complain too much, because it's definitely been worse.)

With that in mind for the overall pace, let's talk specifics. For some unfathomable reason, the Marine Corps Marathon doesn't have real corrals or, apparently, starting waves. So I expect the start to be quite congested and messy. Plus, the first few miles boast the most significant uphill portion of the course. As a result, I'll be happy if my pace for the first couple of miles is below 9 flat. Somewhere in the 8:30-8:45 range would be better, but I'll take what I can get.

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MCM course map

I listened to an interview with the MCM race director from last year. It didn't tell me much that I didn't already know, but one insight I did glean from it was that the course is basically a series of five out-and-backs. And it turns out I know at least the DC portion of the course very well, which helps with planning.

First: Arlington. This is the big hill at the beginning. I'm told it's not nearly as bad as it looks on the elevation map, and I have been practicing hills. But I'd still expect to be 10-20 seconds per mile off the pace, plus whatever I have to deal with for crowding. Hopefully on the way back down I can make some of that up - there the issue will be more keeping myself in check, since I like to fly downhill 🦅

Next: Rock Creek Parkway. I am very familiar with this portion of the race, since I run on the trail beside this road all the freaking time. It's also part of the DC Half course. There's a slight uphill towards the end of the "out" portion, but it's not that noticeable. Ideally by this point I'll be keeping a steady and comfortable pace.

After that we loop around behind the Kennedy Center and the Lincoln Memorial - this section is slightly downhill and often has a tailwind. Then comes out-and-back #3: East Potomac Park. It's quite flat but can be pretty windy. Mile 12 is the famous Blue Mile, lined with photos of Marines killed in action. The idea of this section always makes me tear up a little, but I have no idea how I'll feel about it 12 miles into a marathon. Regardless, I'd expect to be perhaps slightly faster on the "out" and slightly slower on the "back" if there's any wind, which it looks like there might be. Also, there are real bathrooms, which hopefully I won't need but this (or the next bit behind the Washington Monument) would be the place to go if necessary.

Then comes the Mall. Again, very familiar, and it's also pretty flat other than one short hill that shouldn't be a problem. I'd expect this to be the most hyped-up section - I was out there last year for MCM and there were plenty of spectators out cheering, along with a DJ and a marching band. If I've managed to hang onto my Skratch for this long, the water fountains here are a good place to refill too.

After leaving the Mall, we head to the apparently infamous 14th Street bridge. This is another section I know well, and as I said a couple of weeks ago, I think the dread is somewhat misplaced, though probably not entirely. This would be the time to check in and pick up the pace if possible.

The last out-and-back is Crystal City. While I've been there many times, I've never run there, so I'm less certain what to expect. A bit of elevation, apparently. And of course, the race ends in a hill, because somebody out there hates marathoners 🫠

In summary, I hope to be around 8:30-8:45 for the first couple of miles, 7:45-8:00 for the downhill, then about 8:10-8:20 for the next 16 miles, and if I can, pick it up from there to the finish.

Of course, after all that, this plan is subject to lots of changes in the moment. I've found that my best races are based on how I feel, so if I feel really good, I might run faster, and if I feel awful, I'll probably be slower. I would expect to feel pretty comfortable for at least the first 10 miles and reasonably okay for the next 8 or so before things start to hurt.

I do have solid heart rate data from my last marathon. I was mostly in the mid-to-high 160s for the first half of the race, slowly crept into the low 170s through about mile 19, and then had a steady climb up to a max of 186 for the rest of the race. (I was also running faster in that last section.) So that's a good indicator to keep an eye on, assuming my watch actually gives me HR data (which it's unfortunately not always good at when it's cold out).

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Pace/HR graph

After the race, I plan to head home relatively quickly to rescue my lonely puppy. Sorry, puppy. Hopefully I will be able to walk 🙈

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My gremlin lying on his back on the couch

Thoughts? Anything I overlooked? Three days to go!! 😲
 
Weirdly, if I enter both the 5K and the 10K into the 538 calculator, it comes up with 3:52:26 (8:52 pace).
I've had this happen to me as well. My assumption is that because the shorter distance is a better time, the algorithm assumes your strengths are in shorter races and not the marathon. It's still a pretty large differential though. I can't remember how my results turned out, but I think the prediction with both races was more accurate 🤷‍♀️. Hopefully that's not the case for you!

Someday it will happen, even if I have to wait until I turn 40 and get those 5 minutes back (assuming they don't move the goalposts again 😮‍💨).
I started running more consistently in 2017 and that was when I first started dreaming of a BQ. Back then, my time would have been sub 3:35. I decided that was much too fast and would wait until I aged up to 3:40. Lo and behold, by the time I aged up the times had shifted and my new time was 3:35 🤦‍♀️. Now I'm in the same bracket as you (3:30) and fully expecting that 3:30 will follow me to the next bracket in a few years.

Of course, my PR is 3:57 so I'm not really even close yet but now it feels unobtainable whereas the 3:40 at 35-39 felt doable if I really buckled down and raced/trained smartly.
 
I can't believe they have no corrals for the full. I ran the MCM 10k 10 years ago (still my 10k PR) and let me just say--start as close to the front as you can and don't worry about being out of place. It was dreadful in the 10k--I lined up where recommended (I ran a 48+ 10k) and there were people walking 5 abreast from the get go that I had to dodge. It was awful.

I remember the final hill.....I have never before and never since felt like I was going to die/fall over/not be able to move/not finish. I left it all out there and by the end had nothing left to give. But hey, you may love it! 😁
 





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