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Would you leave your under 5 year old at a house with parents you didn't know?
Alone for a one-on-one playdate? No. In a birthday party setting with a number of other classmates? Yes; no problem. Not sure if this was an issue for you but I have heard it mentioned on the DIS before - here we would have absolutely no fear of there being guns in the house or worry that they might be accessible to kids. No backyard pools here to worry about adequate supervision either.
 
no fear of there being guns in the house or worry that they might be accessible to kids.
Umm is that really a thing people in Canada think is something us in the States actually worry about for a kids party as a norm? Like a checklist of possible things? Like Hmm gift? check, birthday card? check balloons? check, no unlocked guns???

Just seems like a strange thing to toss in there out of all the possible things to even mention.
 
Alone for a one-on-one playdate? No. In a birthday party setting with a number of other classmates? Yes; no problem. Not sure if this was an issue for you but I have heard it mentioned on the DIS before - here we would have absolutely no fear of there being guns in the house or worry that they might be accessible to kids. No backyard pools here to worry about adequate supervision either.

I know I have a very different outlook on things than many here. But to me I would be MORE concerned about parents having to watch multiple children hyped up on birthday fun than the one on one normal play date.
 
Umm is that really a thing people in Canada think is something us in the States actually worry about for a kids party as a norm? Like a checklist of possible things? Like Hmm gift? check, birthday card? check balloons? check, no unlocked guns???

Just seems like a strange thing to toss in there out of all the possible things to even mention.

So why the need to stick around then? Obviously you’re worried about something..
 

I know I have a very different outlook on things than many here. But to me I would be MORE concerned about parents having to watch multiple children hyped up on birthday fun than the one on one normal play date.

What do you worry about though? That they’ll get hurt playing with other kids? Unless you’re constantly by their side, that’s always a possibility.
 
So why the need to stick around then? Obviously you’re worried about something..
I'm sorry I'm confused about what you're asking?

I wasn't in the conversation of sticking around or not sticking around though I did partially follow it. I was responding to the mention of being concerned about unlocked/unattended guns. That's just not a normal thing people worry about when it comes to bringing their kid to a birthday party.

I mean this politely but I'm trying to figure out if you're trying to stir up something by using the "Obviously you're worried about something" and the ".." afterwards part.

I actually get the pool example because of a very young child and swimming. I wouldn't say every parent would be there but I would probably expect multiple adults if you're talking about under 5. That's much more common to think about. Heck our HOA rules are no one under 14 without a parent or other guardian (18+) which is partially liability but also just age level and swimming capabilities. But thinking about a gun being in the house or being accessible to kids as a normal thing to worry about? Quite a different track there.
 
What do you worry about though? That they’ll get hurt playing with other kids? Unless you’re constantly by their side, that’s always a possibility.
It is not that they will get hurt through normal play with other kids, that is a risk no matter where they are with or without other kids. It is that the parents behavior that I was most concerned with.
 
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Umm is that really a thing people in Canada think is something us in the States actually worry about for a kids party as a norm? Like a checklist of possible things? Like Hmm gift? check, birthday card? check balloons? check, no unlocked guns???

Just seems like a strange thing to toss in there out of all the possible things to even mention.
:rolleyes1I specified that Christa hadn't mentioned it. I have seen it mentioned here previously over the years and there have been news reports of tragedies involving kids getting access to improperly stored firearms. I have no clue how much mental energy you all spend on it but yes, gun culture in the US is something we see as a very great difference between Americans and Canadians. Admittedly just my perception, but it seems to be a very polarized issue - people are either very for them or very against them. Is it totally crazy to assume the "against" people would be very concerned about putting their children in an unknown environment with people who might be "for" them. :confused3
 
It is not that they will get hurt through normal play with other kids, that is a risk no matter where they are with or without other kids. It is that the parents behavior that I was most concerned with.
That's fine. I'm not criticizing your caution, just curious about it. I presume you also wouldn't think it completely reckless that I would allow my kid to go to a birthday party without me.
 
there have been news reports of tragedies involving kids getting access to improperly stored firearms.
Of course there has and it's actually a topic I usually am passionate about (meaning for goodness sake lock up your dang guns), but that is a far cry from thinking before accepting a kid's birthday party or wanting to stay "is ____ birthday party at a house where there's a gun there? would the gun be reachable for kids?"

Is it totally crazy to assume the "against" people would be very concerned about putting their children in an unknown environment with people who might be "for" them. :confused3
I think this below statement is why though.

I have no clue how much mental energy you all spend on it but yes, gun culture in the US is something we see as a very great difference between Americans and Canadians.

It's been well established on the DIS this viewpoint between cultures but sometimes I think that's the problem. Guns may be here in the U.S. but sometimes y'all think the most extreme things that are just not part of many of our everyday lives (as in thinking about gun presence for a kid's party).

I actually totally got your pool example ::yes::
 
That's fine. I'm not criticizing your caution, just curious about it. I presume you also wouldn't think it completely reckless that I would allow my kid to go to a birthday party without me.

Everyone has their own comfort zone. I will admit that I was fairly over protective when my daughters were younger. Once my daughters hit mid-elementary school and had a regular group of friends and I got to know the parents I no longer felt the need to stay for parties.
 
Of course there has and it's actually a topic I usually am passionate about (meaning for goodness sake lock up your dang guns), but that is a far cry from thinking before accepting a kid's birthday party or wanting to stay "is ____ birthday party at a house where there's a gun there? would the gun be reachable for kids?"


I think this below statement is why though.



It's been well established on the DIS this viewpoint between cultures but sometimes I think that's the problem. Guns may be here in the U.S. but sometimes y'all think the most extreme things that are just not part of many of our everyday lives (as in thinking about gun presence for a kid's party).

I actually totally got your pool example ::yes::
Interestingly, Christa hasn't commented one way or the other about whether it was a concern for her.
 
Umm is that really a thing people in Canada think is something us in the States actually worry about for a kids party as a norm? Like a checklist of possible things? Like Hmm gift? check, birthday card? check balloons? check, no unlocked guns???

Just seems like a strange thing to toss in there out of all the possible things to even mention.
Yes. Guns and pools.
 
Interestingly, Christa hasn't commented one way or the other about whether it was a concern for her.
I won't speak for her but even if her answer was Yes I am worried about that, it appeared what you were getting at with your comment was discussing gun culture between countries.

Your comment was you specifically wouldn't have "no fear of there being guns in the house or worry that they might be accessible to kids." as if that is something the several hundred million of people here do worry about when considering a kid's b-day party.

I was totally thinking mundane things like a bunch of kids hopped up on sweets with only 1 or 2 to help wrangle them in. Or different parenting styles.
 
Before COVID, DS10 had his parties at home. Most of the parents attending knew each other because most of his friends go to his school. The parents often stayed, not to keep an eye on their child, but to socialize with their friends. It didn't hurt that they knew we have an outdoor fridge stocked with beer and hard cider for the adults. :rolleyes:
 
Yes. Guns and pools.
Of course the ONE person on the DIS has to comment that ;)

**said in a non-snarky sarcastic way and please know I'm saying this in partial jest, someone says something isn't representative of a majority and then one person immediately responds with "accttuually".
 
:rolleyes1I specified that Christa hadn't mentioned it. I have seen it mentioned here previously over the years and there have been news reports of tragedies involving kids getting access to improperly stored firearms. I have no clue how much mental energy you all spend on it but yes, gun culture in the US is something we see as a very great difference between Americans and Canadians. Admittedly just my perception, but it seems to be a very polarized issue - people are either very for them or very against them. Is it totally crazy to assume the "against" people would be very concerned about putting their children in an unknown environment with people who might be "for" them. :confused3
It’s very much a concern. Even for people who are “for” them because not every gun owner is a responsible one. And not all kids abide by the rules no matter how well they’ve been taught. If my kid is going to be spending time at your house I’m going to ask the question and if you’re offended by it I have my answer.
Of course there has and it's actually a topic I usually am passionate about (meaning for goodness sake lock up your dang guns), but that is a far cry from thinking before accepting a kid's birthday party or wanting to stay "is ____ birthday party at a house where there's a gun there? would the gun be reachable for kids?"


I think this below statement is why though.



It's been well established on the DIS this viewpoint between cultures but sometimes I think that's the problem. Guns may be here in the U.S. but sometimes y'all think the most extreme things that are just not part of many of our everyday lives (as in thinking about gun presence for a kid's party).

I actually totally got your pool example ::yes::
As a parent YES you think about those things.
 
Before COVID, DS10 had his parties at home. Most of the parents attending knew each other because most of his friends go to his school. The parents often stayed, not to keep an eye on their child, but to socialize with their friends. It didn't hurt that they knew we have an outdoor fridge stocked with beer and hard cider for the adults. :rolleyes:
That reminds me of a cooler day that happened here in like September. There was a bouncy house in someone's backyard (that faced the street we used to get to our part of the neighborhood) and the kids playing with what I assume is probably a good amount of at least one parent to these kids in attendance and the parents were all huddled outside in medium jackets under the deck, it was clear the parents had at least something to entertain themselves other than looking every now and then towards their kids in the bouncy house.

**By the way bouncy houses at a birthday party are something I actually would be far more concerned about than guns! That and trampolines (especially if there's no safety net around the trampoline)
 
Of course the ONE person on the DIS has to comment that ;)

**said in a non-snarky sarcastic way and please know I'm saying this in partial jest, someone says something isn't representative of a majority and then one person immediately responds with "accttuually".
I don’t mean this snarky either but you think differently when you have kids. Majority? I don’t know but it’s not uncommon either.
 

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