WWYD - Not Enough Loot Bags

I also want to add--I've never offered or been offered alcohol at a children's party. Adult-type "get together with cousins" is a different matter, but I don't drink, so I know there's a least one sober person there. And even family parties with drinking, don't turn into drunken bacchanals in our family (I know they do, for some people).
 
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And before people think there are no pools in Canada. :laughing:;) I grew up around a good amount of backyard pools. And boy oh boy one was popular if you had one.

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Fun fact about Calgary: My industry commissioned a study on residential features and amenities a while back. In 2016, according to public information via the tax rolls, there were exactly 6 in-ground swimming pools in private yards in the city. 6 in a population of 1.4 million people. Of course it’s all climate related or as we say here on the DIS “it’s a regional thing”. :rotfl:
 
Guys the gun thing wasn't about finding people who do think about it no need to try and prove the point over and over. It was a presupposition that culturally (which appears the main context in it being brought into the conversation) there are so many guns us Americans are besides ourselves worrying over if our nextdoor neighbors have one before we let our kids go over for a party. I apologize if that point got lost. That topic clearly was hashed out yesterday enough though
 

I had to click on this because I had no idea what a “loot bag” was. I thought it was related to a bank robbery lol.

Where I live they are called “goody bags.”
I've heard grab bag too. I think grab bag and goody bag I've heard much more often than a loot bag.
 
We have a pool and we are very strict about pool safety rules with our guests. Before we allow anyone to swim, I make the kids sit down and listen to me tell them our pool rules. I keep a close eye on the pool and have more than once made a kid sit out for not following the rules. My kids take the rules seriously and will tell kids when they aren't following the rules. For example, we have a diving board and I have rules about only one person can be on it at a time and no one and swim in the area near the board when people are jumping off of it.They know that the rules are there for a reason and they don't want any of their friends to get injured.

We've hosted at-home parties for 14 years and no one has gotten injured. I've found that it's really important to set expectations and make sure our kids understand what the rules are so they can help with encouraging their friends to follow them. They enjoy the parties and want to keep having them. They know if they become unsafe we'll stop.

As for loot bags, I usually have some extra stuff. I don't give out what I call bags of crap though. I usually give out a few things related to the party's theme. For example, at DS14's Star Wars party, we had a homemade Death Star pinata. The kids got the stuff they collected from the pinata and a bubble wand lightsaber I found in the One Spot at Target.

I don't mind if parents bring other siblings to an at home party. I do get mad if they bring extra kids without asking to parties at other places because I'm paying per kid. I've never had that happen though. The parents have always offered to pay for their extra kid(s). They usually ask because they don't have childcare for their other kid(s).
 
Well, as the voice of ONE Canadian person raising kids in the US (two, if you count my husband), yes, we HAVE asked if there are guns in the house before leaving our children to play at a home for the first time, birthday party or not. Thus far, we have only received, "No," as a response, so we haven't seen how the rest of that would play out. It is very much one of the things on our minds to check on.

And trampolines. I have seen the results of crazy injuries happen on unsupervised trampolines, especially with multiple kids bouncing at once.
Yeah, trampolines are another one. Lots of Homeowners policies won’t even cover them.
Having raised 3 kids to adulthood (DS turned 18 in October! WOOT!!! FREEDOM!!...ahem, anyways...), I can say that yes, people are that clueless and invite themselves and their younger children to a party. I've always had a little extra for goody bags, and when I've had less bags than kids show, I would add extra goodies to the siblings bag and tell them it's for them and their siblings. It's not the other kids fault that their parent is a jerk; I would never want a kid to feel unwelcome or unhappy because of what the adults are doing.

One year, when DD#2 had her bday party (her bday is in July, so we had it at the beginning of June right after school let out, so her friends could be there before taking off for summer plans), she invited her whole class. She had just finished 1st grade, so she was turning 7. Everyone showed up, including one little girl with her younger siblings. She was told by her mom she could only go to DD's party if she brought her siblings (mom was not Mrs Beaver, if you understand what I'm saying). So, along came the girl, with her 4 younger sisters, one of whom was not potty trained and one of whom was not walking or talking yet. BTW, I had never met these people before, and had never even talked to them on the phone. No diaper bag or anything; and they walked to our house from theirs. They lived by the school, and to get to our apartment complex, you had to cross a big soccer field and a 4 lane road with no lights. :oops: Now, I walked DD to and from school almost every day, so I knew the walk...and it was not one I would let my kids do on their own at those ages!

We were having the party at our apartment, so I didn't have to worry so much about paying for extra. DH was picking up Little Caesars (no delivery in our town from any pizza place, and it was either LC or Roundtable), so I had him get an extra pizza. Koolaid was easy to make more of; and I had plenty of veggies (carrots, celery, ranch etc) I had made cupcakes, so there were plenty; had mini cups of ice cream too, so glad I bought 2 bags that week! I just made goodie bags for the 2 older girls with all the extra stuff, and put suckers and sticker that I had laying around in bags for the non potty trained girl, but nothing for the baby, because, hey...baby. I walked the kids home after (because I am mom); the mom was home but only waved at me through the window when the kids RANG THE DOORBELL TO GET IN.

The NEXT DAY, they all show up at my house again. All of them. No diaper bag or anything...again. No contact with the parents...again. They didn't even know if we'd be home...they just showed up. Right before lunch. I fed them ramen noodles and carrot sticks (what I had enough of for 6 kids at that moment; DD#1 was with her other side grandmother, and no DS yet). DH came home from work and they were still there! I walked them home again, and asked the little girl to get her mom. Kid again rang the doorbell, she came to the door, and I told her I didn't mind her daughter coming to play, but I couldn't watch all her kids, nor could I feed them without notice, and that if her daughter wanted to come play, to please call me first, to make sure we are home and available. Mom was visibly hammered, and didn't even know where her kids had gone. She never called the police or anything to find them either.

They tried to come over again the next day, without notice and yes, all 5 of them, but we were leaving to go somewhere, and told them they had to go home. I walked them home, DH followed in the car to get me after I made sure they were safe. Never saw them again; the little girl wasn't in DD's school the next year (only 2 classes per grade, couldn't have missed her).

ETA: I have only ever been asked about guns once, and that was from the woman who was our then-new next door neighbor, who had a son the same age as DS. At the time, it was no, we didn't have any; same with a pool.
I’m pretty sure this lady and my former neighbor are the same person. She had the “my kid is NOT going over there” trifecta. Took pills (even offered to sell me some), gun in an open handbag on her kitchen table, unsupervised pool. Allll her girls including the baby had to come over if the middle one wanted to play with DD. Problem was, she didn’t tell me she was sending them all over. So I go over and I say, “listen, you can’t do that” and she says “well then middle girl can’t come over anymore.” Well, okay, cool. I tell DD she can play with her in the front yard if they happen to be out at the same time. Next thing I know all the girls including baby are in my front yard and see neighbor driving away. I go over again (when she finally gets home) tell her don’t get it twisted, just because our kids are playing together does NOT mean I’m watching her kids, that’s her job. A week or two later all the kids are out playing and DD comes in and asks if one of the girls can use the bathroom and get a juice bag. I tell her kids live next door they can use their bathroom. DD tells me, mom locked them out and they’re not allowed to knock on the door for two hours. On one hand they’re not my responsibility but on the other you can’t bring yourself to to just throw little kids with a baby to the wolves either. After much door pounding and numerous phone calls she finally let them in. DD always had something else to do if those kids came out after that.
Guys the gun thing wasn't about finding people who do think about it no need to try and prove the point over and over. It was a presupposition that culturally (which appears the main context in it being brought into the conversation) there are so many guns us Americans are besides ourselves worrying over if our nextdoor neighbors have one before we let our kids go over for a party. I apologize if that point got lost. That topic clearly was hashed out yesterday enough though
It’s okay if people continue to discuss and expand on a topic.
 
It’s okay if people continue to discuss and expand on a topic.
Of course, but I was speaking about quoting me with "well I do" as I was quoted again early this morning.

QueenIsabella commented about guns and rural aspects not an issue to me whatsoever but also wasn't a response directed solely to me in order to reflect a contradiction to the conversation of yesterday. Wendy31 discussed other topics in addition to saying "it’s not just guns that cause parents to stay at kids’ birthday parties"

I was not in fact trying to tell people to stop commenting about such topic on the thread itself.
 
Of course, but I was speaking about quoting me with "well I do" as I was quoted again early this morning.

QueenIsabella commented about guns and rural aspects not an issue to me whatsoever but also wasn't a response directed solely to me in order to reflect a contradiction to the conversation of yesterday. Wendy31 discussed other topics in addition to saying "it’s not just guns that cause parents to stay at kids’ birthday parties"

I was not in fact trying to tell people to stop commenting about such topic on the thread itself.
In general people quote so there’s reference or they haven’t gotten to the point in the thread where it’s been discussed.
 
In general people quote so there’s reference or they haven’t gotten to the point in the thread where it’s been discussed.
Def.

I was trying to clear the air into what where I was coming from in my comments and more or less saying that conversation that involved me had run its course; at some point someone would jump in and say "will you move on already" about Canadian vs American gun culture (or lack there of in the case of Canada). I wasn't trying to open it up to another argument about whether or not I was controlling the way the thread moves so please understand that was not my intent :flower3::flower3:
 
Fun fact about Calgary: My industry commissioned a study on residential features and amenities a while back. In 2016, according to public information via the tax rolls, there were exactly 6 in-ground swimming pools in private yards in the city. 6 in a population of 1.4 million people. Of course it’s all climate related or as we say here on the DIS “it’s a regional thing”. :rotfl:

The things you learn about your own country, on a website about a theme park in another country. :laughing::drinking1
 
Guys the gun thing wasn't about finding people who do think about it no need to try and prove the point over and over. It was a presupposition that culturally (which appears the main context in it being brought into the conversation) there are so many guns us Americans are besides ourselves worrying over if our nextdoor neighbors have one before we let our kids go over for a party. I apologize if that point got lost. That topic clearly was hashed out yesterday enough though

I think the problem is your posts come across as if you're speaking for all Americans. I agree we're all very aware there may be guns in a home. That is why some of us asked about the gun situation, before allowing our child to go to any home without us. Many of us do/did worry about it. I'm sure you're aware that we don't all feel the same way about guns, but that's not something we can discuss here.
 
We just never had a kid party for my guys. I have 4 of them and we never had one single kid party for them. They were absolutely fine with it and never asked for one. I don't know how I pulled it off but I did. They got invited to plenty of parties so they were not shunned either. We had a family party for them but I have never made birthdays a big deal so really the expectations were not high.
 
DD's parties were always just for her few close friends, never a class of kids she didn't hang out with. Invites were given outside of school so no problem with other kids feeling left out. Honestly I don't know who came up with the idea that the whole class had to be invited. If my DD was not friends with them outside of school, IMHO there was no reason to invite them. When she was in elementary, parties could be going to the local skating rink or something like that. Once she got to middle school, the party was just in our downstairs. Pizza, soda and video games followed by an all you can eat ice cream sundae bar that I put together. The kids loved the unstructured hang out time and especially the ice cream. I was up and down the stairs regularly to check on them and the door to the downstairs was open so they were always in ear shot. Once in high school, I took her and her 4 closest friends to a local restaurant and gave them free range to order anything they wanted. Of course, a couple of them ordered the Alaska King Crab legs...

Anyway, I truly understand the safety concerns. That's a big reason why we only included DD's true friends. We knew their families and how they were raised and so we had no concerns for them coming here or DD going there. Today's parents might be concerned about a whole range of hazards - firearms, trampolines, pools are some but I would also add alcohol, prescription drugs and even things like unsecured cleaning products for the young ones. There is no substitute for good supervision. If someone was concerned about the safety for their kid, maybe just offer to help supervise the party. I also think it is incredibly rude to show up with extra kids unless you check with the host in advance and it's ok. Even siblings close in age can be a problem for the birthday child. My brothers were only a year apart and the older one sometimes wanted to spend time with his friends without his younger brother tagging along.
 
DD's parties were always just for her few close friends, never a class of kids she didn't hang out with. Invites were given outside of school so no problem with other kids feeling left out. Honestly I don't know who came up with the idea that the whole class had to be invited. If my DD was not friends with them outside of school, IMHO there was no reason to invite them. When she was in elementary, parties could be going to the local skating rink or something like that. Once she got to middle school, the party was just in our downstairs. Pizza, soda and video games followed by an all you can eat ice cream sundae bar that I put together. The kids loved the unstructured hang out time and especially the ice cream. I was up and down the stairs regularly to check on them and the door to the downstairs was open so they were always in ear shot. Once in high school, I took her and her 4 closest friends to a local restaurant and gave them free range to order anything they wanted. Of course, a couple of them ordered the Alaska King Crab legs...

Anyway, I truly understand the safety concerns. That's a big reason why we only included DD's true friends. We knew their families and how they were raised and so we had no concerns for them coming here or DD going there. Today's parents might be concerned about a whole range of hazards - firearms, trampolines, pools are some but I would also add alcohol, prescription drugs and even things like unsecured cleaning products for the young ones. There is no substitute for good supervision. If someone was concerned about the safety for their kid, maybe just offer to help supervise the party. I also think it is incredibly rude to show up with extra kids unless you check with the host in advance and it's ok. Even siblings close in age can be a problem for the birthday child. My brothers were only a year apart and the older one sometimes wanted to spend time with his friends without his younger brother tagging along.
I think the invite the whole class thing has to do with how invitations are distributed, they could only be handed out at school if everyone was invited (or at least the same sex). In the early years parents might not have contact lists for other families (our schools don’t provide them). Some friends are only seen at school, especially if both parents work.
 
I think the invite the whole class thing has to do with how invitations are distributed, they could only be handed out at school if everyone was invited (or at least the same sex).
Is this how it's approached these days? I remember giving my friends b-day party invites in person at school all the time. I don't remember the inviting the whole class so no one feels left out being much of a thing growing up but I think it was because it wasn't looked at as an intent to leave someone out. It was just "these are the kids my kids play with" type thing. Do schools have these rules now? I know Valentine's day cards have sorta shifted to that where everyone makes a card for everyone it seems like where that didn't used to be as common.
 
Is this how it's approached these days? I remember giving my friends b-day party invites in person at school all the time. I don't remember the inviting the whole class so no one feels left out being much of a thing growing up but I think it was because it wasn't looked at as an intent to leave someone out. It was just "these are the kids my kids play with" type thing. Do schools have these rules now? I know Valentine's day cards have sorta shifted to that where everyone makes a card for everyone it seems like where that didn't used to be as common.
Yes, it’s mostly the norm, same with valentines (you can’t address the envelope). My oldest entered kindergarten in 2001, rules were in effect then.
 
Yes, it’s mostly the norm, same with valentines (you can’t address the envelope). My oldest entered kindergarten in 2001, rules were in effect then.
They were def. not in my immediate area at that time (although I was not in kindergarten then lol but still in schooling) but I can see how it would be more common these days. Back then Valentines Day was you made a box and whom ever would put whatever in the box, no requirements to make/buy cards so every kid in class got one wasn't really there but I know that is now. It's what made me think about your comment about not being able to hand out at school for b-day party invites.
 














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