WOW, FP+ is worse than I even imagined

Am I the only one who isn't sick of these FP+ threads? It's like a soap opera, just waiting there for the next "oh no you didn't" post and smiling as you watch it all go crazy. Bonus fun the more hyperbole there is in the OP - "FP+ is better than sex!!!", "FP+ was made by the DEVIL!!!!" etc etc. You just know it will get interesting quick.
 
Am I the only one who isn't sick of these FP+ threads? It's like a soap opera, just waiting there for the next "oh no you didn't" post and smiling as you watch it all go crazy. Bonus fun the more hyperbole there is in the OP - "FP+ is better than sex!!!", "FP+ was made by the DEVIL!!!!" etc etc. You just know it will get interesting quick.

You think this is fun...head over to the Community Boards :lmao:
 
Am I the only one who isn't sick of these FP+ threads? It's like a soap opera, just waiting there for the next "oh no you didn't" post and smiling as you watch it all go crazy. Bonus fun the more hyperbole there is in the OP - "FP+ is better than sex!!!", "FP+ was made by the DEVIL!!!!" etc etc. You just know it will get interesting quick.
I enjoy the discussions but I don't like it when people whine or act nasty to a particular individual.

I know that I'm whining right now so please don't be nasty to me! ;)
 
Am I misunderstanding? The op is staying offsite and has mnsshp tickets and still got some fps for the 3-hour window of regular park hours? How does this "ruin" a vacation or even make it any worse than with fp-? Could you often walk into the park at 4 and get fps for the 3 remaining hours? I don't get how this is worse than universal where you must be on site or pay? I'm not trying to be contrary. I just really don't get this complaint that comes up similarly often.

If we're just bashing the mde software, I think anyone who's used it a bit can sympathize and has their own list of issues. Or was lucky. I do agree picking initial times farther away so it's easier to modify and using "modify attraction" might have headed off the problem, but the solution should be a redesign not forcing every Wdw visitor to be an expert on their software.
 

Am I misunderstanding? The op is staying offsite and has mnsshp tickets and still got some fps for the 3-hour window of regular park hours? How does this "ruin" a vacation or even make it any worse than with fp-? Could you often walk into the park at 4 and get fps for the 3 remaining hours? I don't get how this is worse than universal where you must be on site or pay? I'm not trying to be contrary. I just really don't get this complaint that comes up similarly often.

I couldn't understand WHAT the OP was trying to do.
 
Am I misunderstanding? The op is staying offsite and has mnsshp tickets and still got some fps for the 3-hour window of regular park hours? How does this "ruin" a vacation or even make it any worse than with fp-? Could you often walk into the park at 4 and get fps for the 3 remaining hours? I don't get how this is worse than universal where you must be on site or pay? I'm not trying to be contrary. I just really don't get this complaint that comes up similarly often. If we're just bashing the mde software, I think anyone who's used it a bit can sympathize and has their own list of issues. Or was lucky. I do agree picking initial times farther away so it's easier to modify and using "modify attraction" might have headed off the problem, but the solution should be a redesign not forcing every Wdw visitor to be an expert on their software.

You could most definitely walk in then and ride Pirates, Mansion, perhaps Space and BTMRR, with very little wait.

I never said it ruined anything. But it proves that if I'm not staying on property, if I WAS going to the park the day, getting FPs for new rides is an impossibility. And it proves tha the 4th FP is getting more and more mythical as people become more FP+savvy.

And it proves that WDW is no longer worth spending a lot of my money to visit. FP+ is an abomination, IMHO. It really is very similar to Universals Express, making so only on site guests can really enjoy the rides now. Problem is, Disney has 5 times the hotel rooms, and hasn't built a new E Ticket in over a decade.

-J
 
/
No, it actually shows windows for all day, which surprised me. I have a FP+ for a time I won't even be allowed in the park for. Wonder if I could demand entry!:lmao:

To be clear, I knew this was coming. I was very active in the anti-FP threads early this year.

The folks that say "it worked great for us" are clearly either
1. staying on site and nabbed FP+ at 60+ days out
2. not big riders, and more than happy with 3 rides a day
3. lucky with MDE
4. going when FP has historically been unnecessary


-Jason

I went to the Magic Kingdom the last Sunday of June. I showed up at the gate, bought a one day ticket and went to the park. I went to a FP kiosk in Fantasyland and then went to 7DMT where I waited an hour to ride. I was in the park that day from 9:45am to 8:00 pm. When I left the park I had used 8...yes, 8 fast passes that day. I rode everything I wanted...some things twice!

So, no 60 days staying on property...
No 30 days prior to arriving...
Same day...8 fast passes....bang, bang, bang...I just shot your theory full of holes. My real life experience with FP has been great! I did a week in March, a day in June and just returned from 4 days in August/ September.

Don't knock it til you try it.
 
I went to the Magic Kingdom the last Sunday of June. I showed up at the gate, bought a one day ticket and went to the park. I went to a FP kiosk in Fantasyland and then went to 7DMT where I waited an hour to ride. I was in the park that day from 9:45am to 8:00 pm. When I left the park I had used 8...yes, 8 fast passes that day. I rode everything I wanted...some things twice!

To be entirely fair, according to touring plans the crowd level in MK on the last Sunday in June was a 6/10. That's not exactly a high crowd level for MK..

That said, I'm not debating that you had a great experience at all. I'm happy to hear such a positive report :).
 
I might be confused on this whole situation here, but if you only have MNSSHP tickets which means you can't enter the park until I think 4PM, even under the old paper fastpass system I would think by then all paper fastpasses would have been distributed for "Dwarf Hill" and Belle. So essentially you would have had the same result you have now, right. :confused3

This was my thought as well. Even with legacy FP, you couldn't have entered the park at 4p, gotten a FP, used it then waited the hour to expire to get another FP, used that FP, and the waited again to get another one unless all three rides were walk ons for the FP return time. So then you wouldn't have needed a FP for those rides anyway. :confused
 
This was my thought as well. Even with legacy FP, you couldn't have entered the park at 4p, gotten a FP, used it then waited the hour to expire to get another FP, used that FP, and the waited again to get another one unless all three rides were walk ons for the FP return time. So then you wouldn't have needed a FP for those rides anyway. :confused

I'm confused on the bolded part....under legacy FP, once you *used* a FP, you could get another one. The rule was you couldn't get another FP until the return window *opened* (not expired) OR until 2 hrs had passed...whichever came first.

So if you entered at 4 and got a FP for Jungle Cruise where the return window started at 4:30, then at 4:30 you could go to Pirates and get a FP for it and then head to Jungle Cruise to use the first FP. Then when the Pirates FP window opened, you could get a 3rd FP before going to ride Pirates, etc...

Again - not debating whether you could have gotten 3 headliner FPs in the 4-7 timeframe under legacy...most likely not, and I'm not claiming otherwise.
Just commenting on the way the above is worded, as I don't think the description of how legacy FP worked is correct.
 
I did a trip in May before school ended and thought FP+ was great,I was able to get a FP+ for TSMM and a second one for TSMM for my fourth FP+ after using the other three,never would have been able to do that before so all smiles.My last trip in mid August,nowhere near as good an experience.In the end my observations of FP+ is that it has positives and negatives and overall is not that great a system for what it cost,spending it on new rides would have been the better option.
 
To be entirely fair, according to touring plans the crowd level in MK on the last Sunday in June was a 6/10. That's not exactly a high crowd level for MK..

That said, I'm not debating that you had a great experience at all. I'm happy to hear such a positive report :).

OP says he is going in early October. Crowd calendar predictions for that time frame are 5-6/10 so.....maybe we are actually comparing apples to apples.
 
OP says he is going in early October. Crowd calendar predictions for that time frame are 5-6/10 so.....maybe we are actually comparing apples to apples.

And that's fine...your original post came across to me as saying the day you went in June was a really high crowd day and you got 8 FP+ throughout the day.

I was curious what the crowd level was for the day you went, as my FP+ window is coming up and since it's wine and dine 1/2 marathon weekend and veteran's day crowds are higher than other pre-Thanksgiving times. If crowd levels had been similar for your weekend as to what I'm expecting for ours, I would have been excited that you were able to get 8 as maybe then I could too.

Then I signed in to touring plans and saw that day was a 6..lower than what is currently predicted for my weekend. Like I said, I'm glad you had a great experience with the system...I'm hoping I have one as well.
 
The main thing I am worried about is securing FPs 5 at a time. I really don't want to get stuck into the trying to secure 2 and 3 at alternating times that overlap like I keep reading. Disney should have planned things better than that.
 
And that's fine...your original post came across to me as saying the day you went in June was a really high crowd day and you got 8 FP+ throughout the day.

I was curious what the crowd level was for the day you went, as my FP+ window is coming up and since it's wine and dine 1/2 marathon weekend and veteran's day crowds are higher than other pre-Thanksgiving times. If crowd levels had been similar for your weekend as to what I'm expecting for ours, I would have been excited that you were able to get 8 as maybe then I could too.

Then I signed in to touring plans and saw that day was a 6..lower than what is currently predicted for my weekend. Like I said, I'm glad you had a great experience with the system...I'm hoping I have one as well.

I just returned from a 4 day trip. I was there 8/28-9/1 and FP+ worked well again. I didn't book my first FP until I was about 30 days out even though I was on property. I also went to the MMNSSHP with other family members and my sister had party tickets only. She easily booked 3 FP's before 7:00 and she booked them that morning. Her first FP was 3:25-4:25 for Buzz then Thunder and Splash. Obviously she couldn't get to Buzz before 4:00 but she used all 3 FP's.

I recommend making your FP selections for early in the day so you can use the extra FP's after you use the initial 3. As soon as I used my 3rd FP I found the nearest kiosk and booked a FP that was as close to the current time as I could get. I could usually get one or two attractions in and then use the new FP. Once that was used, back to the kiosk...

You can have great success if you are willing to work with what's available. I found the extra FP's to be much like the old system except I didn't have to run across the park to get another FP.

I was soured by the OP's incredibly negative tone towards something he has not yet used in person. At least it didn't appear to me he had personal experience. My main point is that it does work fairly well if you have an open mind and remain flexible. I think this guy is expecting to get 7DMT on short notice exactly when he wants it...having realistic expectations help as well.
 
Why would you be limited to 3 rides a day? Before FP+, did you ONLY ride rides using fastpass? You didn't ride standby for anything?

We minimally used fastpass before - maybe 2 or 3 a day. For that reason, I don't see what the fuss is.

Now, I have read that standby lines have increased as a result of FP+, and THAT concerns me.

Regardless, I don't get these threads saying OMG I didn't get the FPs I wanted/my vacation is ruined/Disney sucks. FP had a minimal effect on our vacations before FP+. Does anyone really think they're never going to wait in a line? If so, I'd say unrealistic expectations are the villain here.

Actually for us this is pretty close to what dh and I have planned. In the past we could get fp's for almost everything that had a long wait and the standby lines for the other rides were close to non existent We'll be at the parks for 7 days out of our 14 in Orlando. That is the absolute only reason we expect to do everything we' d like this trip.

Unlike previous trips where we'd grab some fp's when we arrive(not at rope drop) then do standby with non existent waits we know that isnt going to work this time around. We are not waiting in long lines for secondary attractions. So we've planned 3-6 rides per
day and more activities elsewhere (including 2-3 days at Universal which we havent done in years, a day or 2 at the beaches, more pool time etc.).
I'm not sure how those of you finding last minute availability are doing it.
We booked at the 60 day mark, and we're just over 3 weeks away. Yesterday I changed our HS day, and was very limited on times for TSMM. I had 2 slots open on one possible day, 1 slot on another, and 0 on the 3rd. Yes I realize it is popular, but for everything but MK we are throwing away 1 or 2 fp's a day since everything we want to do has tiering problems or are not fp'd.
For example at HS we're doing TSSM(fp), Beauty and , GMR,, Studio Backlot, Frozen sing along(fp)(only because I couldnt find another avail tier2 that we were interested in), Fireworks and maybe Fantasmic. I've booked a throwaway for our 3rd FP which seems like a waste . As with most of our days this coming trip we wont bother arriving until 4ish since there is no point in getting there earlier for us. I've been following the standby times very very closely and unless one chooses rope drop rides such a POTC which use to be a virtual walk on or less than 10 minutes now at 45 ....well imho it aint worth the wait and I'd rather swim....lol!
Bottom line for some of us who are on property(split stay on/off), who like to sleep in, who are willing to do only a few things a day FP+ still doesnt work well.
We've decided that we'll still enjoy ourselves but our time at the parks will be much shorter than we expected. We're ok with that but if Disney thought this would get more spending from guests with us it is having the absolute opposite effect in that we will be going to the parks, doing our rides and getting out with less breaks and less shopping time.
 
Am I misunderstanding? The op is staying offsite and has mnsshp tickets and still got some fps for the 3-hour window of regular park hours? How does this "ruin" a vacation or even make it any worse than with fp-? Could you often walk into the park at 4 and get fps for the 3 remaining hours? I don't get how this is worse than universal where you must be on site or pay? I'm not trying to be contrary. I just really don't get this complaint that comes up similarly often.

If we're just bashing the mde software, I think anyone who's used it a bit can sympathize and has their own list of issues. Or was lucky. I do agree picking initial times farther away so it's easier to modify and using "modify attraction" might have headed off the problem, but the solution should be a redesign not forcing every Wdw visitor to be an expert on their software.

We always walked into the park and got the fp's we wanted and we never did rope drop. We dont go at super busy times though so I cant speak to that .

And dont get me started on the software. Tonight we have no hotel ressies, no fp's, and no tickets (these were all there yesterday). Im just hoping its one more in a long line of glitches.
 
I read these boards before I went to WDW over Labor Day weekend and heard lots of these so-called horror stories about Fast Pass Plus. And then I actually used it.

It worked great. I had zero complaints. It made our vacation even better.

And that is coming from someone who really liked the old system and didn't want it to change. Also, my ticket type (from CM) made it impossible for me to plan ahead so I was at the mercy of whatever fastpasses were left when I walked in the parks this past weekend.

So much unnecessary drama here.

Bye Felicia!
 
I'm confused--in 7 days, you aren't going to be able to do the things you want to do in Disney World? I'm not being sarcastic here--how is that possible?
 





New Posts









Receive up to $1,000 in Onboard Credit and a Gift Basket!
That’s right — when you book your Disney Cruise with Dreams Unlimited Travel, you’ll receive incredible shipboard credits to spend during your vacation!
CLICK HERE














DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest DIS Tiktok DIS Twitter

Back
Top