Would you consider this line cutting?

[AlyJoy716]

If the restaurant is busy, one gets in line and the rest wait in the corner. We do not save tables as I consider that to be rude. I love the system Disney has at the MK restaurants when it is busy. No food, no table. The CM's direct traffic. Also, if you bothered to read, I never told anyone to move. We sat at empty seats and told the individual sitting there that we would leave if their party arrived while we were eating (they didn't). To me, one person holding six seats is no different than one person holding six places in line. Both are rude.

I've not seen thousands of people at Disney waiting to "sit down now" as you put it. But I've seen many wandering around looking for a spot to sit in order to eat. While there are pretty obvious table savers.

Who at Disney told you that everyone is a patron of the restaurant whether they are eating or not? Common sense would seem to say to me that Disney provides restaurant seating for those who are eating. There are benches and shows with seats for those who want to rest.

And where do you get the idea that my needs are more important than others when I sit at an empty chair at a "saved" table? We generally don't smell bad and bath daily. My daughter is 18, her friend was 19. They have better table manners than many adults I know. My husband is a fairly mild mannered guy except when he is trying to eat while walking. I do have to have an injection prior to eating which some find offensive but I generally manage to do it pretty discretely. I never said I was more special than anyone else. It seems to me that it is you who thinks that you must be a very special person to deserve to tie up an entire table in a crowded restaurant where diners can't find a place to sit because you want to "rest".

I'm not saying that I've ever sat down at a table in a restaurant to just "rest". I'm saying that we don't know if that person has already eaten, if they are planning on eating, if they have a disability. Even if none of those apply, who are we to say they should get up and give us their seat? I will say that I have seen only one person sitting at a table, and I've asked if the seats are saved. If they say yes, we've moved on. If they say no, then we've politely asked if we could sit there, and more often than not, they've said yes, and it's not a problem. To sit down at a table that someone is reserving for their family that is getting the food is, IMO, rude.

 

[AlyJoy716]

Won't be doing it at busy times at the MK. As someone has already mentioned, Pecos Bills, Cosmic Rays and I believe I just read Pinocchio Village Haus all have cast members at busy times preventing this rude table saving. They obviously see something wrong with patrons wandering around with trays of food while others save a table.

This is why I don't go to Disney during peak times. I like to sit down at a nice air conditioned restaurant to eat my food and not have to worry about battling it out with people over an open table.

 

[DISNEYFOS]

This is why I don't go to Disney during peak times. I like to sit down at a nice air conditioned restaurant to eat my food and not have to worry about battling it out with people over an open table.

I know I'm going to get blasted as a snob, etc..but this is why we do a TS reservation each evening.

It really is fighting the masses to do the counter service, everyone pushing shoving, no personal space considerations. Its also why I won't ever stay at the POP again. My goodness, trying to get a cup of coffee in the morning..people literally hang their arms over you to reach past you to get at cups, lids.. Its unbelievable. What the heck ever happened to patience, waiting your turn, no pushing. I think most of these people need to go back to preschool.

 

[PatsMom]

I'm not saying that I've ever sat down at a table in a restaurant to just "rest". I'm saying that we don't know if that person has already eaten, if they are planning on eating, if they have a disability. Even if none of those apply, who are we to say they should get up and give us their seat? I will say that I have seen only one person sitting at a table, and I've asked if the seats are saved. If they say yes, we've moved on. If they say no, then we've politely asked if we could sit there, and more often than not, they've said yes, and it's not a problem. To sit down at a table that someone is reserving for their family that is getting the food is, IMO, rude.

Then we shall have to disagree because I believe that reserving seats when others are wandering around with food is rude. I could actually make a pretty good argument that taking an open seat at a "saved" table isn't really rude at all.

You keep harping on me expecting someone to give up their seat. I never said that. I said that we came to the conclusion that open seats at a saved table were fair game. It would be nice if you got your facts straight.

 

[DISNEYFOS]

Then we shall have to disagree because I believe that reserving seats when others are wandering around with food is rude. I could actually make a pretty good argument that taking an open seat at a "saved" table isn't really rude at all.

You keep harping on me expecting someone to give up their seat. I never said that. I said that we came to the conclusion that open seats at a saved table were fair game. It would be nice if you got your facts straight.

That is still incredibly rude. If you came and plopped yourself down next to me after I explained that the chair was reserved for my husband whom I was sitting with, then you would be rude. Whether the chair was empty is irrelevant. Just because you are "ready to eat" and "you don't smell" doesn't mean that trumps common decency, and manners. please.

 

[crashbb]

That is still incredibly rude. If you came and plopped yourself down next to me after I explained that the chair was reserved for my husband whom I was sitting with, then you would be rude. Whether the chair was empty is irrelevant. Just because you are "ready to eat" and "you don't smell" doesn't mean that trumps common decency, and manners. please.

But one could argue that attempting to reserve the seat while your husband is getting food lacks common decency and manners.

Who is rude in the situation depends on your point of view.

I definitely see both sides of the argument. It appears that WDW doesn't agree with yours however (given that they are enforcing no seat saving in some of the CS restaurants).

 

[PatsMom]

That is still incredibly rude. If you came and plopped yourself down next to me after I explained that the chair was reserved for my husband whom I was sitting with, then you would be rude. Whether the chair was empty is irrelevant. Just because you are "ready to eat" and "you don't smell" doesn't mean that trumps common decency, and manners. please.

Whether the chair is empty is extremely relevant. What makes your husband more important than me? I've already said I'll move if he shows up. Common decency and manners would say that those who already have food should be able to sit in an open seat.

 

[DISNEYFOS]

But one could argue that attempting to reserve the seat while your husband is getting food lacks common decency and manners.

Who is rude in the situation depends on your point of view.

I definitely see both sides of the argument. It appears that WDW doesn't agree with yours however (given that they are enforcing no seat saving in some of the CS restaurants).

So in your world, if someone needs to use the restroom they are in danger of losing their seat? Sorry I do not believe WDW will be enforcing this.

I could see blatant abuse by saving 4 or 5 tables or something..but no one is going to take my husbands chair if he left the table for a few minutes...Geez you guys are nuts...

 

[DISNEYFOS]

Whether the chair is empty is extremely relevant. What makes your husband more important than me? I've already said I'll move if he shows up. Common decency and manners would say that those who already have food should be able to sit in an open seat.

He is definitely more important to me than you are :lol and I definitely prefer to sit next him more than you. Miss Manners would tell you if someone tells you a seat is taken you need to move on. Its called having class.

 

[PatsMom]

So in your world, if someone needs to use the restroom they are in danger of losing their seat? Sorry I do not believe WDW will be enforcing this.

I could see blatant abuse by saving 4 or 5 tables or something..but no one is going to take my husbands chair if he left the table for a few minutes...Geez you guys are nuts...

I'll leave when he comes back from the rest room - there are usually lines there too! But if he just stepped away from his meal, there would be food at his place would there not? Totally different than a single person holding a six seat table.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who is saving a table.

 

[msmayor]

We had waited in a pretty long line to do the backstage tour at DHS, and were in the queue up at the point where the metal railings separated numerous 'lines'. I noticed three women/girls 'cutting' their way up toward the front, carrying drinks, and asking to get by so they could meet up with their family.

My family wasn't having that. We didn't let them pass. When they expressed shock, I said "They can wait for YOU to get up where they are...we've been waiting in this line much longer than you have."

There were quite a few smiles given by others in line towards me.

 

[PatsMom]

He is definitely more important to me than you are :lol and I definitely prefer to sit next him more than you. Miss Manners would tell you if someone tells you a seat is taken you need to move on. Its called having class.

Actually I have read several of Miss Manners books and I believe that in the situation I have described she would find the table savers rude.

A seat is not taken if someone is saving it for someone else in a 30 minute food line.

I would prefer that your husband sit next to you also, I just think that you should both have your food before that happens.

 

[DISNEYFOS]

Again, we won't have this problem as I'll be at my Table service reservation

 

[AlyJoy716]

Actually I have read several of Miss Manners books and I believe that in the situation I have described she would find the table savers rude.

A seat is not taken if someone is saving it for someone else in a 30 minute food line.

I would prefer that your husband sit next to you also, I just think that you should both have your food before that happens.

And it's people like you who complain and get their panties in a wad, that have caused the new "policy", if you will, in QS restaurants in MK that you can only sit at a table if you have food. If this new policy of having CM's stationed and only letting people with food sit down alleviates waiting forever to get your food and to get a table, well then it's glorious!! We'll all be the better for it now, won't we? I won't have to save a table while my husband gets our food, and you won't have to worry about taking someone else's seat

 

[AlyJoy716]

Again, we won't have this problem as I'll be at my Table service reservation

That's great!

 

[PatsMom]

And it's people like you who complain and get their panties in a wad, that have caused the new "policy", if you will, in QS restaurants in MK that you can only sit at a table if you have food. If this new policy of having CM's stationed and only letting people with food sit down alleviates waiting forever to get your food and to get a table, well then it's glorious!! We'll all be the better for it now, won't we? I won't have to save a table while my husband gets our food, and you won't have to worry about taking someone else's seat

I have never complained to Disney and I just checked my panties and they are quite unwadded. I simply stated my opinon and my solution. No one was injured - we were all done our meals well before the remainder of the family showed up to join the original table saver. So how did I take someone else's seat? You seem to be ignoring the facts in the original post.

The policy isn't really new - they were doing it at least two years ago when we went during President's week. Works rather well. CM welcomes you to the restaurant, if you family wants to wait away from the line directs them to a spot. After you get your food, the CM directs you to an open table. Its all very civilized and classy! Or at least a civilized and classy as a Disney quick service location can be. Its not like we are talking fine dining.

 

[AlyJoy716]

I have never complained to Disney and I just checked my panties and they are quite unwadded. I simply stated my opinon and my solution. No one was injured - we were all done our meals well before the remainder of the family showed up to join the original table saver. So how did I take someone else's seat? You seem to be ignoring the facts in the original post.

The policy isn't really new - they were doing it at least two years ago when we went during President's week. Works rather well. CM welcomes you to the restaurant, if you family wants to wait away from the line directs them to a spot. After you get your food, the CM directs you to an open table. Its all very civilized and classy! Or at least a civilized and classy as a Disney quick service location can be. Its not like we are talking fine dining.

Honestly, I have absolutely NO problem with the policy! It seems it alleviates a lot of issues on both sides of the coin.

 

[PatsMom]

Again, we won't have this problem as I'll be at my Table service reservation

If you do three Table Service a day, you won't have any problems. Problem for us is that we don't see how anyone can eat that much food! So I restrict myself to on TS per day. Which means I must deal with the unwashed masses in the QS restaurants for at least one meal per day. Breakfast in our villa is not a problem!

 

[DISNEYFOS]

If you do three Table Service a day, you won't have any problems. Problem for us is that we don't see how anyone can eat that much food! So I restrict myself to on TS per day. Which means I must deal with the unwashed masses in the QS restaurants for at least one meal per day. Breakfast in our villa is not a problem!

So we tend to only be looking for QS for the kids at lunch..but now I'm afraid I'm going to get ousted from my seat because I have no food in front of me and that seat is needed for actual eaters Now my daughter will have to share her fries with Mommy or I might not be able to sit with her.

 

[tiffjoy]

So we tend to only be looking for QS for the kids at lunch..but now I'm afraid I'm going to get ousted from my seat because I have no food in front of me and that seat is needed for actual eaters Now my daughter will have to share her fries with Mommy or I might not be able to sit with her.

This made me