Wish delayed with mechanical problems

That sounds miserable. Being so close you can touch it but not get off.

It was. I actually appreciated the times the rain was so hard we couldn't see the island.

I get why we docked - the radar and all past experience with storms like that would indicate that it would blow over so we might miss the morning but we'd have the afternoon. But it just stalled out over Castaway and there was no way to safely get off the dock until it finally slowed in the late afternoon when we would have been leaving anyway.
 
So this thread has me curious, we have purchased travel insurance, but I have yet to find one that covers missing ports unless you have nonrefundable excursions (and as we tend to book excursions through DCL and if they’re canceled, they are refundable so it doesn’t help us). Is there travel insurance that covers you for missing cruise ports due to weather or mechanical issues?
 
So this thread has me curious, we have purchased travel insurance, but I have yet to find one that covers missing ports unless you have nonrefundable excursions (and as we tend to book excursions through DCL and if they’re canceled, they are refundable so it doesn’t help us). Is there travel insurance that covers you for missing cruise ports due to weather or mechanical issues?
My assumption is no because of what you're agreeing to when booking the cruise. You agree to DCL being able to change ports for no reason.
 
so i watched that youtube video or listened to it during my lunch walk. I have mixed thoughts on the whole thing.
I totally get being upset on missing CC or as that one family who stayed to enjoy the ship in Nassau as they assumed next day they would have a beach day- didnt get off the ship at all.

the video was about sob stories of families spending Huuge amounts of money, been saving for 4 years, paid 8 grand and got no CC.. On one hand they should be upset as let's be honest on these 3/4 nights there are two highlights. 1. A shiny new ship 2. CC

Now if one falls away you leave experiencing only 50% of your expectations. I am sure most familys aren't on DCL boards where it's a known risk that generally speaking in cruising ports may be missed or CC you cant dock because of weather. So I can see many were shocked first with the weather excuse and then mad with the mechanical reason.

BUT on the other hand. I have to roll my eyes I know I am being mean now here, but if you have to save 4 years and or you dont have funds. why risk to INVEST 8000 plus grand on a 3 night sailing ?? You are putting too many eggs in one basket. I spend to spend too much on DCL cruisees. but no way I am spending 8000 if the highlight of my trip is only 5-6 hours on a beach on a 3 night
 
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My assumption is no because of what you're agreeing to when booking the cruise. You agree to DCL being able to change ports for no reason.
I actually wanted to look into this.. but I have in my head the only requirement and insurable thing is missing disembarkation on time.. Missed flights for getting in late etc....
 
I also think that people are latching onto mechanical issues as an issue to why they should get more compensation. A lot of “it wasn’t cancelled due to weather, it was mechanical so it’s Disneys fault” Mechanical issues are not necessarily Disneys fault. Now if they didn’t maintain the ship properly (which I kind of doubt on a brand new ship that they paid $$$$ for) then that’s one story. It’s not like the Wish has been plagued by repeated breakdowns for years where you can point to a more systemic issue.

But stuff happens. That’s like saying it’s always your fault if your car breaks down or you get a flat tire or your refrigerator stops working. Yeah, maybe it is if you never change the oil in your car for 5 years. Or maybe it just breaks down and fault is not something that can be assigned.

I do think if Disney was more transparent and did not try to blame weather that would have been better.
 
A friend of mine was on that sailing and she noted that when they were getting back to Port Canaveral, the waters were very choppy so one can assume that had they left Nassau early enough, they still might not have been able to dock
 
So this thread has me curious, we have purchased travel insurance, but I have yet to find one that covers missing ports unless you have nonrefundable excursions (and as we tend to book excursions through DCL and if they’re canceled, they are refundable so it doesn’t help us). Is there travel insurance that covers you for missing cruise ports due to weather or mechanical issues?
I purchased trip insurance through Nationwide that will provide $250 for "Inconvenience to You," defined as "Your Cruise ship has a documented fire or mechanical breakdown that causes the Cruise ship to be delayed into the Port of Call for two (2) or more hours or alters the scheduled itinerary."

This is in addition to up to $1,000 in coverage for "Itinerary Change-Pre-Paid Excursions" if the cruise line makes a change after the departure date that prevents you from participating in nonrefundable pre-paid activities and the activities are not rescheduled during the course of the trip.
 
Do you know if they have a contingency plan..? A backup in a venue on the ship instead maybe?

A friend of mine has been looking at getting married on DCL (possibly Castaway). I've asked her what the contingency is in the contract. I'll update when I hear from her - assuming she's gotten that far in planning.
We have friends getting married on a Fantasy sailing. The ceremony is planned for CC, the backup is the Outlook.
 
So this thread has me curious, we have purchased travel insurance, but I have yet to find one that covers missing ports unless you have nonrefundable excursions (and as we tend to book excursions through DCL and if they’re canceled, they are refundable so it doesn’t help us). Is there travel insurance that covers you for missing cruise ports due to weather or mechanical issues?
I think someone else already posted, but yes there are insurance plans that will cover a missed port. It's not a huge amount back, especially considering the overall cost of the cruise (so it's not like 25% of a 4-night cruise, or 33% of a 3-night cruise, etc.). But you can get reimburased a couple hundred.
 
I think someone else already posted, but yes there are insurance plans that will cover a missed port. It's not a huge amount back, especially considering the overall cost of the cruise (so it's not like 25% of a 4-night cruise, or 33% of a 3-night cruise, etc.). But you can get reimburased a couple hundred.
And that wouldnt make sense as from a cost view ( lost value), a port stop is nothing compared to the hotel/full board value one is getting while on the ship. And one can also argue on the Wish the ammenties offered on board have a higher book "value" than a missed port. I would think from an insurance view they are covering costs you insure from non-refundable private excursions, those have a value. but what is the value of not getting off at CC? there really isnt one per say..the lunch you miss on the beach you get on the ship for example.
 
I also think that people are latching onto mechanical issues as an issue to why they should get more compensation. A lot of “it wasn’t cancelled due to weather, it was mechanical so it’s Disneys fault” Mechanical issues are not necessarily Disneys fault. Now if they didn’t maintain the ship properly (which I kind of doubt on a brand new ship that they paid $$$$ for) then that’s one story. It’s not like the Wish has been plagued by repeated breakdowns for years where you can point to a more systemic issue.

But stuff happens. That’s like saying it’s always your fault if your car breaks down or you get a flat tire or your refrigerator stops working. Yeah, maybe it is if you never change the oil in your car for 5 years. Or maybe it just breaks down and fault is not something that can be assigned.

I do think if Disney was more transparent and did not try to blame weather that would have been better.

I have been hesitant to wade in here, because I am not sure I am adding anything. But I think it has been an interesting discussion and wanted to add a couple thoughts.

I agree with the side arguing that mechanical issues are much different than weather, even if they aren't always avoidable. To compare it to a legal principle, often the person who is in the best position to avoid a problem should bear liability when the problem arises. In this case, Disney is in the best position to avoid a mechanical problem, and should bear more of the burden than the customer (not legally, but from a customer service standpoint). How would customers ever be in a position to verify that Disney has done all required maintenance, for example? They wouldn't, so they must rely on the brand's reputation and the brand standing behind what it sold, which is a ship that moved as intended. That is different than acts of god, which Disney isn't in a position to prevent. As others have pointed out, the same principle flows through airline regulations and policies - mechanical problems belong to the airlines, even though sometimes they just happen. Disney is in the best position to prevent this situation, customers can't verify whether it has, and therefore Disney should bolster trust in its brand by stepping up big time when it's ships have major mechanical problems that significantly impact a cruise.

I also don't agree with appeals to the contract, or that it is relevant to whether the compensation is adequate. Brands should often go above and beyond what is legally required in order to protect the brand's image. If Disney desires to maintain it's image of providing a reliable and exceptional cruising experiences, it must make sure it adequately addresses situations like this one regardless of its legal requirements.

As others have pointed out, what is sufficient in a situation like this will be different for everyone. For some, nothing would be enough. For others, a simple apology might be. But, I suspect, for the average passenger, this was on the light side and not a "win" for the Disney brand. I think it would have been in Disney's best interest to spend a little more here to find a little sweeter middle spot. Not everyone would be happy, but more would be, and more reading about the incident would have an improved opinion of the brand. You don't want to be become Carnival, where people wonder if they will be left stuck at sea/port. You want to be that cruise company where the ships rarely breakdown, and where you know you will be well taken care of it you are in that rare situation where there is a mechanical problem. By compensating more, Disney would also be signaling that it is so rare, they don't expect to have to do it often.

I'm hesitant to even post this, since in the big scheme of things, this is such an unimportant issue. Crap happens on vacation. It can be devastating at the time, but for anyone who has lived a little, you realize you are lucky to even be in a position to travel and spend time with loved ones and that it is best to move on from vacations that don't go as planned. Safe travels everyone - cherish those times and memories, even when you have a few bumps in the road along the way.
 
I would think from an insurance view they are covering costs you insure from non-refundable private excursions, those have a value. but what is the value of not getting off at CC? there really isnt one per say..
Non-refundable excursions is separate, though related since both have the same underlying condition that occurred. For insurance that covers a change in itinerary, I think it's part of the "trip interruption" coverage and the insurance does assign a value -- probably a flat value that is the same for any port stop. It doesn't differentiate a beach stop, a highly popular port, etc. Whether one agrees with that value is subjective but it is what the insurance offers. Additional loss due to non-refundable excursions would be reimbursed as well.

But I agree with your point that the cruise staff switch gears and provide additional onboard activities and entertainment, dining, etc. So the day isn't "lost" per-se, just changed.
 
A friend of mine was on that sailing and she noted that when they were getting back to Port Canaveral, the waters were very choppy so one can assume that had they left Nassau early enough, they still might not have been able to dock
This. It was verrrry windy on Sunday (I too was on this sailing). Even looking at the forecast on Saturday, it was going to be windy so I wasn't confident we would have been able to dock. Had we gotten to CC earlier in the morning when it was a bit calmer, we might have been able to dock. But I think the captain saw the wind speed and decided it wouldn't work. Of course that's my speculation, but I'm not convinced we would have been able to dock at CC regardless of the mechanical issues.
 
The best thing to do when booking private excursions is to look at their cancellation policy. The best ones - and the only ones I'd go with - are the ones that offer a refund in the event that your ship cannot (or does not in the case of unrest making it unsafe) dock.

I can only guess that those that don't offer refunds aren't really catering to the cruise population but people who go there on vacation and stay. I can't imagine one that didn't offer refunds in the event of a ship not docking staying in business very long if their bread and butter was cruise passengers.
 
The best thing to do when booking private excursions is to look at their cancellation policy. The best ones - and the only ones I'd go with - are the ones that offer a refund in the event that your ship cannot (or does not in the case of unrest making it unsafe) dock.

I can only guess that those that don't offer refunds aren't really catering to the cruise population but people who go there on vacation and stay. I can't imagine one that didn't offer refunds in the event of a ship not docking staying in business very long if their bread and butter was cruise passengers.
I have found companies, that like you said cater to cruise pax, have a cancellation policy.. ex. Norway, most ports there ONLY have cruise tourists so they cater to this and monitor the ship arrival times and adjust etc.. if you sail lets say barcelona etc.. and book a Viator excursion good luck as these cater to all tourists in the area.
 
I can understand that Bride’s point of view and feel for her while realizing that Castaway is never guaranteed. It could’ve easily been canceled for other reasons.

And yes, I understand- this was a mechanical issue.

But like I said, before we missed Castaway our very first cruise. Once in Grand Cayman, they canceled every excursion due to weather. I don’t think they were even allowing the tender boats to run but I’m uncertain because I wasn’t willing to venture out in the weather.

We were on the November sailing that got back extremely late on the wish (due to a bright star on Castaway- that poor family) and had ridiculous lines all over the Wish because they made everybody leave their rooms and my autistic son had a meltdown due to crowds everywhere and I know so many people missed their flights that day. But none of us had it as bad as that family that it lost a loved one.

Things happen.

This probably seems like ancient history, but they used to have a pre-park opening breakfast at Magic Kingdom with mine train, Peter Pan, and sometimes small world were open (of course this was all for an extra fee). The one day we went Peter Pan was down, and then it proceeded to storm so hard that mine train went down. I’m sure we could have marched right over to guest services and spent time in line there demanding our money back (which I know some people reported getting, but others reported not getting anything but fastpasses) but since we were already drenched at that point, we headed over to splash Mountain and waited for it to open up as soon as the storm passed and rode it 3x in a row since we were already drenched from the storm.Because at a certain point being aggravated is just making the situation worse.

Disney offered a guest recovery method. I think it’s actually pretty generous, all things considered. Everyone’s take on this is going to vary.

I hate that someone’s wedding was ruined, but it could’ve easily been the exact same thing if the winds had been too strong to dock. Disney clearly does not want any mechanical issues, especially with a brand new ship. The only thing I will fault Disney for is not being completely upfront about all the reasons for not going to Castaway.
Respectfully, points taken. However, there were a lot of inconveniences for passengers on a 3N cruise that resulted from a mechanical issue, this is more than a "things happen" situation.

1. Late arrival into Port by about 3 hours (Nassau), people missed shore excursions. DCL knew there were problems with the ship coming into the Port, yet they didn't tell the passengers on Friday night.
2. Ship didn't leave the Port on Saturday evening, so Pirate Night was effected and no fireworks.
3. Ship didn't leave the Port early enough to get to CC (not really weather) so no stop there.
4. Guests were not given any real information in a timely manner and were not told the whole truth.

For a 3 night cruise, there were a lot of things that were impacted, especially for people who this may be their only opportunity to cruise with Disney. And there are a lot of people like that. As I said in an earlier post, we (people on the DisBoards) are not like most Disney guests. In general, we all have been to Disney many times and been able to cruise more than once. If I were on that cruise, I would have been quite upset. I think if some of the people here had this happen to them, they would also be upset and looking for additional compensation. I feel for everyone who was on that cruise, it was definitely not what was expected, regardless of a contract that was signed. If we're going to compare it with the parks, you went to the MK and 3/4 of the rides were not operational, wouldn't you ask for more than a $5 credit (comparatively about the same as a $100 OBC) and 20% off a future ticket? When you buy that ticket you are basically "signing" the same type of contract. Same for when it pours all night on a MNSSHP or MVMCP night, park doesn't close but most people expect a refund. I'm not saying people on the cruise should get a full refund, but what was offered was not good PR for Disney or what I would expect them to do, regardless of a "contract". I think this is it for me on this topic. Thanks for listening and respecting opinions other than your own.
 

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