Why is it such a personal matter?

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Just something that popped into my head reading the thread on salaries. Why do people not want to ever discuss their income? why is it so private?
I am just curious, because I see people discuss some of the most intimate private things on the board.
so I am wondering why don't people want to tell their salary?
just being curious. and I have often wondered this in general, not just on this board, I am also referring to real life too.
 
Just something that popped into my head reading the thread on salaries. Why do people not want to ever discuss their income? why is it so private?
I am just curious, because I see people discuss some of the most intimate private things on the board.
so I am wondering why don't people want to tell their salary?
just being curious. and I have often wondered this in general, not just on this board, I am also referring to real life too.

I've noticed this tends to happen more with people who make a 'real good' living. Those who are average blue collar workers tend to be more open about their pay (in my experience) than those who may have lucrative jobs or married into a family of a 'high income' job...
 
More than anything, it is considered to be bad manners to discuss money, religion or politics. When you go down those paths, you run into prejudices that create "problems"...
 
More than anything, it is considered to be bad manners to discuss money, religion or politics. When you go down those paths, you run into prejudices that create "problems"...

oh goodness then I guess there are a lot of bad manners on the board.:lmao: :lmao:
 

I've never really understood it either, other than some may view it as a way of bragging. I personally don't see it as a big deal, but then again I used to be a public school teacher so my salary was public record for the whole world to look at.
 
I was raised that you just do not ever discuss money. It is a personal matter and not something to talk about. I remember calling Dan Murphy once to talk to him about money. He is a good friend, a father figure to me and a financial planner. I wanted his opinion on some things I was trying to decide on and wasn't sure about the advice I was getting from the 2 people I was talking about with. I wasn't really throwing numbers out there but it was still super hard for me to talk about.

It was just how I was raised and how my friends were raised. Money was not discussed. I saw that question and my eyes popped a bit. LOL
 
I think for many people, their salary is tied into their perception of their self worth.
 
More than anything, it is considered to be bad manners to discuss money, religion or politics. When you go down those paths, you run into prejudices that create "problems"...

I've never really understood it either, other than some may view it as a way of bragging. I personally don't see it as a big deal, but then again I used to be a public school teacher so my salary was public record for the whole world to look at.

Yeah...why I guess in my experience its those who make quite a bit that prefer not to talk about it....to not appear as 'braggers'.... And...that way, when they tell us 'less income makers' how to spend our money or we aren't saving correctly, we don't have the 'well I dont make as much as you' to use as a defense, because they don't tell us....
 
The Chicago Sun Times posted a link to find out how much every teacher in IL makes - teachers are paid thru tax dollars, and therefore subject to not private

this surprised me as I was raised what a person makes is personal and private! I understand in theory why the teacher's salaries are available to the public, but it sure raised a few eyebrows just the same!
 
I've never really understood it either, other than some may view it as a way of bragging. I personally don't see it as a big deal, but then again I used to be a public school teacher so my salary was public record for the whole world to look at.

The Boston Herald has a link on their site "Your Tax Dollars at Work"
so anyone on the Massachusetts state payroll in any job, not just teachers, everyone is on the website.
 
oh goodness then I guess there are a lot of bad manners on the board.:lmao: :lmao:
The anonymity of an internet forum allows people to speak freely with no (almost no) repercussions. Standard rules for social discussion do not seem to apply...
 
Also, I believe it is policy in many companies that you do not discuss salaries. To do so could mean disciplinary action or even termination.
 
Yeah I find it odd that it's so private. (I've heard this is a very American thing--not so much the case in a lot of European countries. Not sure if that is true.)

I think I've seen some articles/studies about how people actually end up making more money when there is openness about salaries at work. People are probably more likely to ask for a raise (and get one) if they know what other people at their same seniority level and with similar evaluations and such are making. (Which, of course, is why businesses wouldn't want you talking about it!)

I'm a grad student at a public university and the salaries of all faculty here are publicly available (and I've looked!). My non-fellowship salary is also available for anyone to find.

It might be part of the whole "we're all middle class" thing (funny all these threads are going at once!). When you don't know what other people's income situation is, it's easy to think that you're in similar types of economic situations (e.g. both "middle class.") But maybe when you actually know what you are making compared to others, you start seeing some pretty major differences. (I don't think it's just income that could make one aware of these differences, but also lifestyle, spending, etc.)

For instance, a friend of mine A did discuss actual numbers with a friend of hers B (who I don't really know). So A now knows exactly what B's annual income is--at least twice what A's is. And B--being in her mid-20s and having really generous parents--gets a lot of extra support from them; she has very few bills other than very minimal living expenses (and not even all of them) which she pays on her. Yet B likes to complain to A about how she doesn't have any money and she can't manage to save anything and she's so poor. A (who is living on half the money B is and actually paying *all* her living expenses on her own), doesn't have much sympathy for B and in fact is pretty annoyed by her constant complaints.

I've also seen some threads here where DISers have mentioned some numbers, saying things like "well $50,000--that's poor!." And people who are making $50,000 respond and say "Really--I don't think of myself as poor" and get sort of insulted. (Of course there are COLA issues there.)
 
The Chicago Sun Times posted a link to find out how much every teacher in IL makes - teachers are paid thru tax dollars, and therefore subject to not private

this surprised me as I was raised what a person makes is personal and private! I understand in theory why the teacher's salaries are available to the public, but it sure raised a few eyebrows just the same!

I tend to agree....I do think, from what I was taught growing up, it SHOULD be a private thing.... but depending on the conversation or who you are conversing with, being adament about not stating your income makes it odd and uncomfortable.
My best friends, my family...or anyone I may be in a conversation with on finances have a right to be clued in if I'm discussing things that make a difference on whether you make $30k a yr vs $90k a yr... Thats a big living difference...

Yeah..its a touchy subject, money always seems to be :confused3
 
I always cringe even when once a year the Parade insert in the Sunday paper does thier annual "who makes what" edition, LOL.
 
The Chicago Sun Times posted a link to find out how much every teacher in IL makes - teachers are paid thru tax dollars, and therefore subject to not private

this surprised me as I was raised what a person makes is personal and private! I understand in theory why the teacher's salaries are available to the public, but it sure raised a few eyebrows just the same!


You can look up NYS employee's salaries also.

I don't discuss money because I was raised not to, it was seen as being rude to ask someone what they made or talk about what you made.
 
I would never post my salary on the disboards, for the simple reason that in the future if I ever was to post about my finances, mention an upcoming vacation or purchase, or complain about the cost of something, someone would dredge up the post containing my salary and throw it back in my face. :lmao: You know it's true!! ;)
 
The Chicago Sun Times posted a link to find out how much every teacher in IL makes - teachers are paid thru tax dollars, and therefore subject to not private

this surprised me as I was raised what a person makes is personal and private! I understand in theory why the teacher's salaries are available to the public, but it sure raised a few eyebrows just the same!

That's available in NJ too. Not just teachers though. You can check on police officers and fire fighters.
 
I've never really given it much thought. I think for me, it is something I don't like to talk about because our income is substantially higher than that of the people we're closest with in our community, and it is just awkward at times because I hate to think that our friends might feel bad or get jealous over the things we have. I have issues about that kind of stuff, though. I'm still not talking a lot about our new house IRL because I know many of our friends are worried about how to pay their mortgage/rent and I feel like it would be insensitive of me to talk about us buying a bigger house right now.
 


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