When do you think this is rude???

[Jordan's MOM]

I need your help on this slightly different resturant question. My Dh sometimes likes to just throw a cap on in the mornings when we are going into the parks. The problem is after he puts it on, he does not like to take it off due to "flat hat hair". That leaves me with the questions as to when at WDW is it ok to wear a cap into a resturant? We don't give counter service places a second thought, but he would never wear in into a nicer resort resturant such a callifornia grill. The question lies with the places in bewteen. What about character meals in and out of the parks? What about nicer sit-down places such as the world showcase resturants? Places like prime-time, or rainforest cafe? Our choices for our trip this year span across all these mentioned and while we have seen hats in most of these places, we wonder if this is offensive to others, or how others feel about this subject. I want to hear both positive and negative so I won't consider any polite post a flame.

Thanks Jordan's mom

 

[jcanary]

but I know many guys do it. I do not believe in hats indoors. I have asked my daughters boyfriends to remove hats when they are in my house. In a restaurant, especially, I do not think they are appropriate. I can understand if it is a quick serve and cafeteria style but if it's a sit down, especially character meal, I don't see hats as being appropriate.
That's my two cents, and I have been told many times in the past that I am from the old school when it comes to these things.

 

[jkovick]

IMO if you are at a sit down restaurant a person should remove his hat. I am not horrified or indignant if someone doesn't remove it.... but I think it shows respect to other guests, which I for one, really appreciate.

 

[kdibattista]

I disagree... I think it is entirely appropriate to wear a hat in any casual restaurant in WDW. I would not think twice if I saw someone in a hat in any of the restaurants...probably would not even notice.

 

[Minerva]

IMO It doesn't matter where you are. I've taught my 9 year old to take his hat off when he sits down at the table whether it's McDonald's or a fancy place. I'd rather look at him with a little hat hair than with a hat on at the table.

 

[tar heel]

Your "uncle" or "cousin" will tell him to remove it at Prime Time.

I think flat hair is better than wearing a hat in a restaurant.

 

[Stimpy]

Sorry Jordan's Mom, I have to agree with the others. No hats indoors. Obviously it's ok if you eating outside, but I don't think it's proper to wear them indoors. Even my 3 1/2 yr old son knows he must remove his hat before eating.

 

[marybdisney]

Personally it doesn't offend me if someone wears a hat indoors. Maybe if the hat was tall and got in my way at a movie or something I might be offended. Or if it were a beer hat or something...

Really, why are people so offended by hats indoors? What does it physically do to hurt you? Some people wear butt ugly glasses or shirts but nobody tells them to take the off indoors.

I'm far more offended by the "Naked COED Lacrosse" tshirts and that sort of thing than I am by a nice golf visor worn indoors anyday.

Just my humble opinion LOL.

 

[LoriZH]

I am torn, lol...

I think it's okay in any casual atmosphere to wear a cap it just wouldn't bother me to see anyone with them on and I firmly believe 99.9% of the people in WDW wouldn't even look your way at a casual restaurant if you were wearing a cap, however, I wouldn't allow my children to wear them at my dinner table or in a nice restaurant or maybe not in a casual restaurant either (with the exception of McDonalds or some other fast food place), but I would NEVER be offended if anyone did.

So now that I have helped you NONE, HAVE A GREAT TIME! lol

Oh PS, what does your husband say about this, how does he feel?

 

[pat fan]

I'll take a stab in the dark as to the origin of taking off the hat.

In the "old" days,men always doffed their hats in the presence of a lady as a sign of respect.Since 99% of the cooking/serving was done by women,maybe the hats off started that way?

I have to agree with most of the other posters,too.I'd say hats off in Crystal Palace,Garden Grill,anywhere sit down & inside...but could be left on at the taco place by PoC,outside mexican restaurant @ Epcot etc...JMO

 

[jordanyosh]

Maybe the question should be do the folks at Disney care. There may be some basic dress code standards and a few restaurants,like Victoria and Alberts, have a very specific dress code. Oh and someone mentioned Prime Time, someone will ask you to take your hat off....Other than that, your husband should be fine. No worries. What if your family wanted to eat at Le Cellier in the WS and they stated no hats.......? It may cause more problems than it cares to address.

Now if you go out to dinner in the evening and have had time to clean up, I would say it's okay to tell your husband no cap. But again, Disney wouldn't care.......i don't even think it's on their radar unless it said something inappropriate.

 

[DrTomorrow]

I'm with you, marybdisney. I can't figure out why I should be offended if someone else wears a hat indoors. Blowing smoke in my face, spitting on my food, propositioning my wife - those things can get me ticked-off; but merely wearing a hat? If it violates an explicit dress code (V&A, for example), then lose the hat, but otherwise, I just don't get it - I guess a lot of people just need things to get worked up about. Me, I'm a live and let live kind of guy.
I chalk it up to those 'rules' that, while they may have made sense 100 years ago, are just followed because people are sheep and prefer not to think about why they do what they do. When people are 'allowed' to wear white, why men must walk on the 'curb' side of women, why ties are required - archaic anachronisms, thankfully dying out.

A story I heard recently. A woman, when preparing a roast, cut an inch off of one end. Her daughter asked her why she did that; the answer, "my mother did it that way." The daughter then asked her grandmother - the answer, "my mother did it that way." She asked her great-grandmother - the answer, "the first roasting pan I owned was too small." Some 'rules' should be examined for usefulness every now and then.

 

[Stimpy]

Let me clear up my stance on this a little.....

Quite honestly, I probably wouldn't even notice if someone else was wearing a hat indoors at a casual restaurant. In our family, it's a sign of respect to remove your hat.

A little off topic, but we noticed the other day at a July 4th celebration that many of the people there did not removed their hats when the American flag passed by. THAT bothered me! Wearing a hat indoors wouldn't bother me unless it was at the table I was sitting at.

 

[Jordan's MOM]

Thanks to everyone for all the input. That's what i wanted , lots of different views.

LoriZH,
DH really, just does not want anyone to see his flat hair after he has worn a cap. He takes longer to "do" his hair than I do and therefore enjoys a morning or two of just throwing on a cap while on vacation.
He, even with the flat hair, would never leave his hat on during the national athem, a prayer, or a place of worship. He just has no problem with being very laid back on vacation, without offence to anyone.

I will share all of these reponces with him and see what he thinks.

Thanks, and keep them comming.

Jordan's mom

 

[crisi]

An interesting piece on hat manners:

http://www.villagehatshop.com/product830.html

I'm of the opinion that I'd rather see your husband in a hat than in sweaty hat hair (well, unless your husband looks like Aragorn in Fellowship - has anyone ever made NOT taking a shower look so good?). So when traveling in July, visiting a WS restaurant after a long park day, please have him keep his hat on. Now, in Janurary or if he returns to the room mid day for a shower, he may be able to take his hat off - if his hair is a little flat "hat hair" is preferable to "hat." And if he wears a woman's formal hat, its appropriate to leave it on during dinner - but I somehow doubt your husband wears a pillbox with a veil.

 

[yoko]

Now that crisi mentioned WS restaurants, I am curious to see how other cultures might look at the hats-at-the-table issue. Does anyone know, for instance, whether a Chinese or Moroccan man would wear his hat at the dinner table??? I am just curious.

 

[crisi]

Well, religious headgear is always appropriate. So if you wear a yarmulke, you are OK where ever you go and don't need to remove it for anything (even the pledge). Also, the rules on women's hats (not caps, but hats) are different than the rules on mens hats.

 

[chi-mom]

I vote a big LEAVE THE HAT ON! My DH wears a hat to avoid burning the bald spot. When the hat comes off, the few hairs he has left are plastered to his sweaty dome. Not at all appetizing, and he feels very uncomfortable about it. I would never be offended by a hat when there are so many much more offensive articles of clothing out there.

 

[DrTomorrow]

From the link that crisi posted:

[T]he rules for men who encounter women in elevators. A gentleman must take off his hat when a woman enters an elevator in an apartment building or a hotel, as those are considered dwellings. He puts it on again in the hall, because a public corridor is like a street. In public buildings, however, the elevator is also considered public, and the hat can stay on.

Yeesh!

And as for respect, if I leave my hat on because I know it looks better than my de-hatted hair, I'm doing it out of respect for the other diners!

 

[Praise2Him]

This is interesting, because we just got back and I politely *insisted* that my DH & DS take their hats off inside restaurants. They asked me why (what is the purpose)? and I really had no answer, except that it's considered good manners. I appreciate seeing others' points of view.