What's up with Billy Joel?

My first thought was alcohol related. But if they determined it wasn't involved, maybe he has a medical problem he's possibly unaware of. What time of day/night was it? Years ago a friend's boyfriend literally fell asleep at the wheel late at night and had an accident.
 
Wow I can't believee what this thread has turned into. I honestly don't know if he was drunk or not. Obviously the cops didn't think so, or see any evidence of him being intoxicated. I would hope they were doing their job.
I think the only thing left to do is throw Billy Joel in the water, if he sinks we will know he is inocent. If he floats let's tar and feather him.
 
Originally posted by gymnasticsmom68
I just think it's funny how people automatically ASSume he didn't do anything wrong, when it's been proven that he's a drunk driver in the past.
I think the one ASSuming here is you. You are assuming that he is a drunk (even though the police say there was no evidence of drinking or drugs) because he had one incident of driving drunk.

Originally posted by gymnasticsmom68
Well, lucky for them they have a perfect Mother when they have such a crappy Father.
Why would you say such a nasty thing? Aren't you taking things a little too personally here?:confused: :rolleyes:
 
What time of day/night was it? Years ago a friend's boyfriend literally fell asleep at the wheel late at night and had an accident.

It was 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
 

Of course he had been drinking! Why else would he be running out to get a pizza? What else goes with a pitcher of beer?
Pizza! Pizza!

:p
 



Why would you say such a nasty thing? Aren't you taking things a little too personally here?:confused: :rolleyes:

gymnasticsmom and I have a history. she doesn't like me very much. I don't know why, but she doesn't. too bad you copied the post before she decided to delete it. I did ask her to take it to PM's.

bumcat, he was on his way out to get the pizza -- and presumably, the beer. ;)

there are many people who have a problem with alcohol or drugs who never drive while under the influence of such substances. Billy Joel once went through rehab. obviously he had a problem. Billy Joel does not have a history of drunk driving arrests. given his history, and that civilians and the media were present, I doubt the police in bayville were in any sort of position to "overlook" any signs that alcohol was involved in the accident.
 
Suffolk Cops aren't gonna let the guy off if he was drinking, even if he is famous. They're quite strict about that.

but the accident didn't happen in Suffolk ;)


ETA
I live in Suffolk and my brother got out of a DWI because our father's cousin's son is a cop, so I'm sure it's not unheard of that a celebrity would be let go.
 
Originally posted by Briar Rose 7457
gymnasticsmom and I have a history too bad you copied the post before she decided to delete it.






:confused: She didn't delete it...it's on the previous page.
 
Maybe he was answering a cell phone or lighting a cigarette or reading something. Maybe a bee flew in the car. Maybe he's possessed.

Does the phrase "innocent until proven guilty" mean anything to some people on this thread? None of us know why it happened and I personally prefer to trust the local law enforcement.

By the way, I am not a fan of Billy Joel. He's just OK musically IMO.
 
It could be he was possessed....... You know Billy isn't LI's only claim to fame. There is a house in Amityville that was possessed.
 
:teeth: Long Island, home of the Amityville Horor, Joey Buttafuco and Amy Fisher, Jessica Hahn...

but then again, we also had Harry Chapin and the Baldwin brothers, so I guess we can't be all bad.
 
the latest from Newsday:

BAYVILLE

Drinking a factor in Joel crash?




BY ROBERT KAHN AND ERIK HOLM
Staff Writer

April 26, 2004, 8:55 PM EDT

A dangerous pattern of accidents, or just bad car-ma?

Billy Joel's most recent crash -- his third one-vehicle mishap since 2002 -- fueled speculation Monday whether the latest incident may be connected to drinking by the rehabbed rocker.

It also raised the issue of whether police should have taken his history into account when they decided not to perform a field sobriety test Sunday.

Criminal justice experts and drunk driving activists said yesterday that police would have needed evidence that Joel had been drinking before they could conduct a sobriety test.

If there had been a death or serious injury, a test would have been required, said Eugene O'Donnell, an assistant professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in Manhattan. Otherwise, police look for slurred speech, disheveled clothing, bloodshot or watery eyes, the smell of alcohol, open containers, or unsteadiness.

Nassau police and witnesses said yesterday that Joel, 54, exhibited none of those indicators after he lost control of his maroon 1967 Citroen, drove through some shrubbery and banged into the wall of a Bayville Avenue home less than a mile from the Centre Island mansion he's settling into with fiance Kate Lee.


"At this scene, there was no sign of alcohol use," said Nassau Det. Lt. Kevin Smith, "and no odor of an alcoholic beverage." Police attributed the crash to slick road conditions.

Homeowner Maria Dono, 94, was away grocery shopping and Joel suffered a small cut to his left ring finger.

Joel was unavailable for comment yesterday, but spokeswoman Claire Mercuri said, "Billy's main concern is the damage to Mrs. Dono's property, and he's taken immediate steps to make sure it's repaired as quickly as possible."

John Pacifico, who lives across the street from the home Joel hit, said there have been at least three mishaps there in the last three years.

Joel entered Silver Hill, a rehab facility in Connecticut, a week after plowing into a fire well and post in Sag Harbor in June 2002. Six months later, he drove his car into a tree, and ex-wife Christie Brinkley released an unusual public statement saying she feared for the safety of their daughter, Alexa Ray, because of Joel's "pattern" of car accidents.

It would probably not be illegal for police to consider that information, if they had it, in their decision making at the scene of Sunday's accident, O'Donnell said.

"There's no real textbook answer on that," he said. "I mean, how often do you come across Billy Joel after he hit a house with an antique car?"

Police who responded to Joel's earlier crashes did not perform sobriety tests either.

"Police shouldn't give the test every time there's a crash," said Denna Cohen, president of the Long Island chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Driving. "Sometimes, you could just be a bad driver."


Neighbors in Bayville rallied to Joel's defense.

Joel's barber, Michael Binyaminov of Michael's Barbershop in Bayville, said locals are familiar with the road and understand how a crash could happen under those conditions.

"Some people say it was alcohol, but I think the road was slippery," said Binyaminov.`
Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc.
 
If there had been a death or serious injury

Around here if you wrap your car around a tree a few times they start giving field sobriety tests for a speeding stop.



Neighbors in Bayville rallied to Joel's defense.

People rallied around OJ for a year. People rally around Michael Jackson every day. That doesn't mean they're innocent. Hell even Scott Peterson has people rallying around him, it's meaningless.

"Some people say it was alcohol, but I think the road was slippery," said Binyaminov.`

Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks it could have been alcohol.
 
Since no one has brought this up, I will.

He was driving a 1967 2CV, it doesn't exactly have traction control! They aren't exactly known for their stability, especially in a turn, my DH loves them (his Mom had one for a long time) but he'll be the first to admit that it's a bit loose in the controls.

It's possible that it was a combination of bad weather and car.
 
if this were an isolated incident, and if it were not so public, I'd give more credence to the theory that the police might "let it go". but this is a well-known person with a history of accidents, and with numerous civilians watching -- people who initially didn't realize who was driving the car.

nope, it would be a very foolish officer who would "let it go" under the circumstances.
 
I did a google search, on Christie Brinkley. other than taking picutres of Billy's wrecked car, I dont think she did anything about his driving issues. at least, she didn't do anything that was reported in the news anywhere.
 














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