What was Disney thinking??!?!?!?

[BayouMickey]

Again. You made absolutely no attempt to make a valid, lucid argument. Bravo.

How is this not valid? Lol nice attempt to downplay my argument. But truth is truth. Your more insulted about innuendo than the pirate song because you were raisefd to deem the song acceptable even though the meaning is 100times more controversial.

 

[nugov2]

i remember as a child singing afternoon delight and not having no idea what it meant.. it's not a new concept people..[/QUOTE

Exactly!! Even BTM I'll make love to you...you probably hear that in an elevator these days. Though I think in a WDW park they could stick to a little less questionable lyrics and still have upbeat dance music.

 

[ginnygi]

The question returns to where do you determine this? Someone out there is just as bothered by the hearing the songs at RnR or POTC as you are to Blurred Lines.

Funny thing is, I suspect Blurred Lines was not played with management approval. For all anyone knows, the person who played it was spoken to. Someone could have plugged in a play list and didn't even realize that song was on the list, then gotten busy and never even noticed it was playing. In my trips to Disney I couldn't have ever told you what song I heard where. I was rarely paying attention to the background noise.

Are you seriously suggesting that "Blurred Lines" could potentially be categorized as family friendly music? You, my friend, have wandered very far into the land of implausibility. Stop and ask for directions. You are lost.

 

[BayouMickey]

Please post these lyrics you keep going on about, because if its true, I will avoid that ride with my kids.

I shouldn't have to leave a family oriented theme park that I paid thousands of dollars to enjoy just because someone was careless with music choices. If its really no big deal, why is there an FCC?

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"We kidnap and ravage and don't give a hoot.*Drink up me 'earties, yo ho."

" We extort and pilfer, we filch and sack.*Drink up me 'earties, yo ho.*"

 

[AngiTN]

Please post these lyrics you keep going on about, because if its true, I will avoid that ride with my kids.

I shouldn't have to leave a family oriented theme park that I paid thousands of dollars to enjoy just because someone was careless with music choices. If its really no big deal, why is there an FCC?

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Even without the lyrics you are talking about a ride full of Pirates, who are law breakers and drunks. Heck, the are in jail at one point. Clearly not good examples for kids to follow. But we pay to have them made up like Pirates, even send them to a Pirate tutorial to learn to be one.

 

[AngiTN]

Are you seriously suggesting that "Blurred Lines" could potentially be categorized as family friendly music? You, my friend, have wandered very far into the land of implausibility. Stop and ask for directions. You are lost.

Please show me where I said that.

 

[ginnygi]

The question returns to where do you determine this? Someone out there is just as bothered by the hearing the songs at RnR or POTC as you are to Blurred Lines.

Funny thing is, I suspect Blurred Lines was not played with management approval. For all anyone knows, the person who played it was spoken to. Someone could have plugged in a play list and didn't even realize that song was on the list, then gotten busy and never even noticed it was playing. In my trips to Disney I couldn't have ever told you what song I heard where. I was rarely paying attention to the background noise.

How is this not valid? Lol nice attempt to downplay my argument. But truth is truth. Your more insulted about innuendo than the pirate song because you were raisefd to deem the song acceptable even though the meaning is 100times more controversial.

What argument am I downplaying? You made no argument. I asked a very specific question. You made an unrelated comment about the POC ride. I fail to see the connection.

 

[nugov2]

Please post these lyrics you keep going on about, because if its true, I will avoid that ride with my kids.

I shouldn't have to leave a family oriented theme park that I paid thousands of dollars to enjoy just because someone was careless with music choices. If its really no big deal, why is there an FCC?

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Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me.
We pillage, we plunder, we rifle, and loot,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
We kidnap and ravage and don't give a hoot,
Drink up me 'earties, yo ho.

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me.
We extort, we pilfer, we filch, and sack,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
Maraud and embezzle, and even high-jack,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me.
We kindle and char, inflame and ignite,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
We burn up the city, we're really a fright,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.

We're rascals, scoundrels, villans, and knaves,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
We're devils and black sheep, really bad eggs,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me.
We're beggars and blighters, ne'er-do-well cads,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
Aye, but we're loved by our mommies and dads,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.

 

[BayouMickey]

What argument am I downplaying? You made no argument. I asked a very specific question. You made an unrelated comment about the POC ride. I fail to see the connection.

The answer to the question is obvious.. maybe I want to hear the song (though I dont really care for it), so just because you dont want to hear it. Im suppose to conform to YOUR wishes, foregoing my own. Thats how it infringes on me. as easy as it is for them not to play it , you can just as easily walk away.

 

[Dani784]

"We kidnap and ravage and don't give a hoot.*Drink up me 'earties, yo ho."

" We extort and pilfer, we filch and sack.*Drink up me 'earties, yo ho.*"

I see nothing about rape in there unless you assume ravage to mean rape. Ravage can mean ransack or rummage as well. All about context.

But a PP is right, pirates are villains. My kids know not to emulate villains. But music and tv stars? Kids emulate them all the time. They are the true villains.

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[AngiTN]

What argument am I downplaying? You made no argument. I asked a very specific question. You made an unrelated comment about the POC ride. I fail to see the connection.

This is becoming comical. You are really not understanding the question. The question is not is Blurred Lines family friendly. I don't think it is

The connection you are not making is what the question really is. The question, to me is, who makes the determination on what is offensive and how it is policed. Who's standard to you use to determine "family friendly"

You are not offended by POTC (just using this as an example) so you fail to see the problem with the ride
You are offended by Blurred Lines so you do not want to hear it played.

The point is there is a chance that someone is just as offended at POTC as you are about hearing Blurred Lines. Does that mean Disney should change POTC? If even one person is offended should it be changed? Where is the line drawn on how to avoid offending their guests?

That is how there is a connection.

 

[ginnygi]

Please show me where I said that.

I wrote: "How is UNFAIR to you to listen to songs that conform to the family friendly nature of DISNEY?"
You highlighted this specific statement in your response and wrote: (paraphrasing) "Who gets to make that distinction?" Putting those two things together infers that I am unreasonable in my argument because I state that Blurred lines is not family friendly, and you state that I am only interpreting it as such, and that someone else may not interpret it as such.

This is the way it would seem to me anyway.

 

[W.E.D.]

On that note, anyone ever see the movie Idiocracy? Dont watch it in front of the kids.

Great movie! Very scary movie! Our television is already turning into the show that was constantly on in the movie, that I can't name here.


On topic: I agree Disney has some sort of responsibility to maintain a level of decorum in sync with the atmosphere of "family friendly" that they represent themselves as.

 

[nugov2]

I see nothing about rape in there unless you assume ravage to mean rape. Ravage can mean ransack or rummage as well. All about context.

But a PP is right, pirates are villains. My kids know not to emulate villains. But music and tv stars? Kids emulate them all the time. They are the true villains.

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They are also selling women to the highest bidder on that ride and based on the pirates behavior and what they say or call out on that ride ravage is rape/sex. Just the way I would assume come and get it in other songs mean sex based on music videos or other clues in the song.

 

[harmon54]

Does anyone else find it ironic that everyone is debating a song called "blurred lines" . You will encounter many blurred line areas in your life and how you choose to handle them will be what your children remember and learn from - not a lyric they heard in a song. In fact I didn't even realize what all the lyrics were until they were written out- I can't imagine my child would understand them all much less the meaning of the words. Disney, as anything in life is what you make it. There have always been many innuendos in Disney- example Dumbo gets drunk, the Little Mermaid was released with a ***** on the castle (granted that was recalled rather quickly) Pixar movies are known for the adult innuendos mixed into kids movies. Some people will be offended, others will think its funny, others won't even notice. If there is something that offends me I try to remove myself from the situation or if I feel I have a right to be there I attempt to ignore it or focus on something else (or get my children to focus on something else). I have never had a problem with song lyrics as they don't tend to notice them, however I hate the Lion King movie where they portray Simba as killing his father (always try to skip that part as I hate the questions that come from that) although I still choose to watch the movie. Now with all that said, I like to hear Disney music at Disney just because it makes me feel more immersed in the Disney experience, as I can listen to Pop music anytime- however I probably wouldn't notice or be offended if I heard a pop song- but then again it is just "blurred lines".

 

[BayouMickey]

I see nothing about rape in there unless you assume ravage to mean rape. Ravage can mean ransack or rummage as well. All about context.

But a PP is right, pirates are villains. My kids know not to emulate villains. But music and tv stars? Kids emulate them all the time. They are the true villains.

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Ok so lets take it in context of the verse.. we KIDNAP and ravage.. in context, that means we'll kidnap and violently rape..

Kidnap and ransack has no point of familiarity.. neither does kidnap and rumage..

 

[W.E.D.]

It's called PIRATES of the Carribean. Not Chivalrous Paladins of the Carribean. What do you expect to see?

Wow. I'm out of this thread. It's taking a turn.

 

[BayouMickey]

Does anyone else find it ironic that everyone is debating a song called "blurred lines" . You will encounter many blurred line areas in your life and how you choose to handle them will be what your children remember and learn from - not a lyric they heard in a song. In fact I didn't even realize what all the lyrics were until they were written out- I can't imagine my child would understand them all much less the meaning of the words. Disney, as anything in life is what you make it. There have always been many innuendos in Disney- example Dumbo gets drunk, the Little Mermaid was released with a ***** on the castle (granted that was recalled rather quickly) Pixar movies are known for the adult innuendos mixed into kids movies. Some people will be offended, others will think its funny, others won't even notice. If there is something that offends me I try to remove myself from the situation or if I feel I have a right to be there I attempt to ignore it or focus on something else (or get my children to focus on something else). I have never had a problem with song lyrics as they don't tend to notice them, however I hate the Lion King movie where they portray Simba as killing his father (always try to skip that part as I hate the questions that come from that) although I still choose to watch the movie. Now with all that said, I like to hear Disney music at Disney just because it makes me feel more immersed in the Disney experience, as I can listen to Pop music anytime- however I probably wouldn't notice or be offended if I heard a pop song- but then again it is just "blurred lines".

Lol even more ironic is thats my whole point

 

[nugov2]

Does anyone else find it ironic that everyone is debating a song called "blurred lines" . You will encounter many blurred line areas in your life and how you choose to handle them will be what your children remember and learn from - not a lyric they heard in a song. In fact I didn't even realize what all the lyrics were until they were written out- I can't imagine my child would understand them all much less the meaning of the words. Disney, as anything in life is what you make it. There have always been many innuendos in Disney- example Dumbo gets drunk, the Little Mermaid was released with a ***** on the castle (granted that was recalled rather quickly) Pixar movies are known for the adult innuendos mixed into kids movies. Some people will be offended, others will think its funny, others won't even notice. If there is something that offends me I try to remove myself from the situation or if I feel I have a right to be there I attempt to ignore it or focus on something else (or get my children to focus on something else). I have never had a problem with song lyrics as they don't tend to notice them, however I hate the Lion King movie where they portray Simba as killing his father (always try to skip that part as I hate the questions that come from that) although I still choose to watch the movie. Now with all that said, I like to hear Disney music at Disney just because it makes me feel more immersed in the Disney experience, as I can listen to Pop music anytime- however I probably wouldn't notice or be offended if I heard a pop song- but then again it is just "blurred lines".

Hillbilly Hell in Cars...I found that surprising and unnecessary, but we still watch it. My kids just know not to use that word. I agree I'd rather be listening to Disney music at WDW...I still have the mainstreet usa song in my head

 

[AngiTN]

I wrote: "How is UNFAIR to you to listen to songs that conform to the family friendly nature of DISNEY?"
You highlighted this specific statement in your response and wrote: (paraphrasing) "Who gets to make that distinction?" Putting those two things together infers that I am unreasonable in my argument because I state that Blurred lines is not family friendly, and you state that I am only interpreting it as such, and that someone else may not interpret it as such.

This is the way it would seem to me anyway.

At no point did I intend to infer you were unreasonable. Where I find fault with your argument is how does one determine what is family friendly. That question does not imply that Blurred Lines is family friendly. It means just what it says. And who makes that determination

What is family friendly to you may not be to another.