What do you do with people that cut in line to meet up with group?

[Mkrop]

In the rare instances that this actually happens, how much time are they really costing you? Unless they're getting into a show that only holds so many people and their cutting prevents you from getting in, it's really not that much.

A lot of this discussion bothers me because I was a victim of some snide remarks and actions from parkgoers that thought they knew what was happening when in reality they didn't have a clue.

We (Myself, Wife, 2 year old daughter, and my mom (Nana)) were first in line at DHS Back Lot Tour. The CM asked if one of us wanted to participate in the pre-show action sequence with the boat. We thought it would be fun if Nana did it, so off she went. Then in the couple of minutes that we waited, the 2 y/o decided to have a meltdown. We tried to calm her, but it was no use.

So, as the rows filled up and my daughter, who can scream louder than anyone on this planet, carried on, we had to decide if we should keep trying to calm her, leave the line, or tough it out. The problem was Nana wasn't with us and there's no way to tell her where to meet up with us or where we went.

So, we tried to tough it out and calm her for as long as possible until finally giving up. As we walked out, some jerk said something like "finally" and a few others decided to start sarcastically clapping and cheering that we were leaving. It was all I could do to not jump the rail and get in his face, but it was more important to calm my daughter and to stay a guest in good standing at Disney.

Now, I'm sure those idiots think they were in the right and probably tell anyone who will listen how annoying it is that parents "drag their screaming children" through attractions with no consideration of the other guests, but there is no way any of them knew the entire situation that we were in.

The point is, I'm not saying people haven't blatantly cut lines or jobbed the queue system in some fashion, but there is no doubt in my mind that many times things are not as sinister or as rude as they might appear on the surface. And, in my mind, that shred of uncertainty is enough to just let it go.

I dont think you deserved those rude remarks, and trust me most of us have been there, done that with a meltdown toddler. My unexpressed issue would be you waiting to remove her. One of you could have left with your DD to a calm location, and one hung around to make sure you caught up with Nana and then you meet somewhere after that.

 

[Hannathy]

In the rare instances that this actually happens, how much time are they really costing you? Unless they're getting into a show that only holds so many people and their cutting prevents you from getting in, it's really not that much.

A lot of this discussion bothers me because I was a victim of some snide remarks and actions from parkgoers that thought they knew what was happening when in reality they didn't have a clue.

We (Myself, Wife, 2 year old daughter, and my mom (Nana)) were first in line at DHS Back Lot Tour. The CM asked if one of us wanted to participate in the pre-show action sequence with the boat. We thought it would be fun if Nana did it, so off she went. Then in the couple of minutes that we waited, the 2 y/o decided to have a meltdown. We tried to calm her, but it was no use.

So, as the rows filled up and my daughter, who can scream louder than anyone on this planet, carried on, we had to decide if we should keep trying to calm her, leave the line, or tough it out. The problem was Nana wasn't with us and there's no way to tell her where to meet up with us or where we went.

So, we tried to tough it out and calm her for as long as possible until finally giving up. As we walked out, some jerk said something like "finally" and a few others decided to start sarcastically clapping and cheering that we were leaving. It was all I could do to not jump the rail and get in his face, but it was more important to calm my daughter and to stay a guest in good standing at Disney.

Now, I'm sure those idiots think they were in the right and probably tell anyone who will listen how annoying it is that parents "drag their screaming children" through attractions with no consideration of the other guests, but there is no way any of them knew the entire situation that we were in.

The point is, I'm not saying people haven't blatantly cut lines or jobbed the queue system in some fashion, but there is no doubt in my mind that many times things are not as sinister or as rude as they might appear on the surface. And, in my mind, that shred of uncertainty is enough to just let it go.

First I'm not sure how this pertains to cutting in lines.

And I think they did know what they were talking about and were very very glad you took a screaming child out of a show that you were distrurbing them with. I would have been to.

So why didn't 1 of you take the child out immediately and the other adult stay and wait for Grandma? seems like that would have been the simplest solution.

But this is digressing from our discussion of entitled line cutters.

 

[rdearth]

I dont think you deserved those rude remarks, and trust me most of us have been there, done that with a meltdown toddler. My unexpressed issue would be you waiting to remove her. One of you could have left with your DD to a calm location, and one hung around to make sure you caught up with Nana and then you meet somewhere after that.

Because when that kid screamed and threw a fit, it was usually all hands on deck.

 

[KellyNY]

I ink it would actually work in most situations, regardless of group number, actually, but I'm not going to go into random examples here.

As for why not having people wait for the separated member, again, that would usually take a lot more time. So now a family is essentially waiting in the line twice. I would consider that unfair.

And people seem to think that those posting in favor of letting people pass cheerfully are only selfishly talking about ourselves, when that seems far from the truth. I would happily let a mom and kid or dad or some combination thereof pass me to meet up with their group. I've certainly let people pass me in various lines throughout my life. It simply isn't a big deal and is part of being a generous member of a society. We help each other out. Over forty years of operation and I don't see this being a problem at Disney, so I'm not sure why anyone thinks it will suddenly become one.

So to simplify, time your family spends on waiting is more important then someones you just cut infront of.

 

[Mkrop]

Because when that kid screamed and threw a fit, it was usually all hands on deck.

Oh please...like I said been there, done that, got the bruises to prove it, and I sure my linebacker son, who I could barely carry at 2, he was that big, and was having difficulty walking and got therapy to learn to walk, if my 5'4 frame can drag his butt out of somewhere so could one of you. She has never meltdowned when she has been alone in public with only one parent. Sorry not buying it. I sympathize with having a toddler meltdown but get out of dodge, and if that means only one of you bc of circumstances than so be it. You lost my sympathy when you said it takes two of you.

 

[maxiesmom]

So to simplify, time your family spends on waiting is more important then someones you just cut infront of.

That is this whole thread in a nut shell. My time is more important, and if it upsets you you are the one with a problem.

 

[rdearth]

First I'm not sure how this pertains to cutting in lines.

And I think they did know what they were talking about and were very very glad you took a screaming child out of a show that you were distrurbing them with. I would have been to.

So why didn't 1 of you take the child out immediately and the other adult stay and wait for Grandma? seems like that would have been the simplest solution.

But this is digressing from our discussion of entitled line cutters.

How could the other people in the situation possibly have any idea what was going on with my family? Like I said, we were first in line, Nana was taken to the back before many other people were even in line. When we got to the pre-show area, the jerks were in the upper viewing area, so they would have been way back in the initial line. There's no way they would have any idea that our party was separated at the time.

And you would clap and say "Finally" to two young parents removing their meltdowning kid from an attraction? Wow, I'd rather have people jump the line than condone that kind of rude reaction. And mind you, it was before the pre-show even started, so no one missed out on anything.

But, see, that's the point. In this case, and in many scenarios talked about in this thread about how it would be cool or fun to do something to line cutters to make them pay some kind of retribution, the reactions are far ruder and unpleasant than the incident that caused it in my opinion. And, often, people think they know what's going on in a particular situation, but really have no idea.

If someone had to leave a line for something, even if that means it's something trivial like they forgot their camera in a stroller, they might ask those around them if it's okay if they run out and come right back. You might not, but most of those near them in line would probably say it's no problem. But there's no way people waaaay back in the line would have any idea what's going on or why they have to get out and come back. So, when they try to get back, it's okay to block them or film them and mock them on YouTube or some other such nonsense?

 

[KellyNY]

In the rare instances that this actually happens, how much time are they really costing you? Unless they're getting into a show that only holds so many people and their cutting prevents you from getting in, it's really not that much.

A lot of this discussion bothers me because I was a victim of some snide remarks and actions from parkgoers that thought they knew what was happening when in reality they didn't have a clue.

We (Myself, Wife, 2 year old daughter, and my mom (Nana)) were first in line at DHS Back Lot Tour. The CM asked if one of us wanted to participate in the pre-show action sequence with the boat. We thought it would be fun if Nana did it, so off she went. Then in the couple of minutes that we waited, the 2 y/o decided to have a meltdown. We tried to calm her, but it was no use.

So, as the rows filled up and my daughter, who can scream louder than anyone on this planet, carried on, we had to decide if we should keep trying to calm her, leave the line, or tough it out. The problem was Nana wasn't with us and there's no way to tell her where to meet up with us or where we went.

So, we tried to tough it out and calm her for as long as possible until finally giving up. As we walked out, some jerk said something like "finally" and a few others decided to start sarcastically clapping and cheering that we were leaving. It was all I could do to not jump the rail and get in his face, but it was more important to calm my daughter and to stay a guest in good standing at Disney.

Now, I'm sure those idiots think they were in the right and probably tell anyone who will listen how annoying it is that parents "drag their screaming children" through attractions with no consideration of the other guests, but there is no way any of them knew the entire situation that we were in.

The point is, I'm not saying people haven't blatantly cut lines or jobbed the queue system in some fashion, but there is no doubt in my mind that many times things are not as sinister or as rude as they might appear on the surface. And, in my mind, that shred of uncertainty is enough to just let it go.

It is line, simple line to a simple ride. Nobody needs to know anyones situation and I think it is ridiculous to say that cutter does not take much time from those in line, point is he takes, that is all that actually matter.

As for your situation, not sure why it is even related and you had plenty of choices, one of you could take kid out, you could let CM know that you leave and one from your party is in the show and not aware of it. It was a show and people wanted to hear it, obviously they were annoyed with crying kid whose parents did not seem to do anything about it. Obviously people were relieved when you left. I actually feel they were victims to listen to all the crying. Speaking your language, how much it really affected you that someone said "finally" anyway but you took it pretty close to your heart because it happened to you.

 

[AndreaA]

So to simplify, time your family spends on waiting is more important then someones you just cut infront of.

Nope, once again, time ANYONE'S family is forced to "double wait" is more important than the 1-2 minutes it will cost me to let them through. I'm more than happy to be generous towards others and "spread a little pixie dust" as is OFTEN heralded on this board.

This thread didn't start out as "what should others do for you" it started as "what do you do about others?" And while I have used myself as an example, I have really been talking about how I, myself would act, and yes, how I would like to think that others would act as well. Maybe if everyone was a bit nicer to everyone else, and a bit more likely to let go of the little petty annoyances in life, then this world would be a better place.

And that's the last I'll say on the matter. It sounds like you (and those who need to re-enter the line, for that matter) are in the minority anyway, so I'm really not worried about it!

 

[rdearth]

Oh please...like I said been there, done that, got the bruises to prove it, and I sure my linebacker son, who I could barely carry at 2, he was that big, and was having difficulty walking and got therapy to learn to walk, if my 5'4 frame can drag his butt out of somewhere so could one of you. She has never meltdowned when she has been alone in public with only one parent. Sorry not buying it. I sympathize with having a toddler meltdown but get out of dodge, and if that means only one of you bc of circumstances than so be it. You lost my sympathy when you said it takes two of you.

I'm not looking for sympathy or saying that it wasn't humanly possible to have one of us take her out, I'm saying that's not what we did in that situation. And, like I said, and as I'm sure you know, sometimes the tantrum just subsides. I believe the hope was once she saw Nana again, it might calm her down, but we didn't make it that long.

I don't think I'm alone in knowing that we haven't always taken the perfect action in every single situation when it comes to raising our kids. If you have, more power to you. Regardless, there's really no excuse for other guests to make the situation even worse with rude comments or sarcastic actions, which really could have led to an even nastier confrontation if I didn't control myself.

 

[Ava]

Does this really happen to some people often enough for it to be an issue? In all my visits I can barely remember a few times when someone tried to cut the line, or go past me to rejoin their group ahead. Or maybe it's just that I don't care enough to remember these instances. Like others have said, a couple minutes of waiting time is not worth it to me to get into an altercation with a stranger on my vacation. More often than not, the rare times this has happened to me, it's one or two people and they're very apologetic when asking to squeeze through so I just let them pass. I don't think I've ever had a big group try to pass me, although I have seen groups of people jump from the regular line into the empty FastPass lane, only to see them a few minutes later making their sad way out because the CM at the front turned them away when they didn't have a FP. (That scenario's kind of fun to witness, actually.)

And then we have the opposite (?) of line cutting - at those attractions where you go from being in a single-file line to being corralled into a large waiting area, when the CM tells everyone to fill in all available space, so your family moves up and people give you the stink eye for moving ahead of them! That has happened to me many times and it always baffles me.

You just can't win when it comes to line etiquette at WDW.

 

[KellyNY]

Nope, once again, time ANYONE'S family is forced to "double wait" is more important than the 1-2 minutes it will cost me to let them through. I'm more than happy to be generous towards others and "spread a little pixie dust" as is OFTEN heralded on this board.

This thread didn't start out as "what should others do for you" it started as "what do you do about others?" And while I have used myself as an example, I have really been talking about how I, myself would act, and yes, how I would like to think that others would act as well. Maybe if everyone was a bit nicer to everyone else, and a bit more likely to let go of the little petty annoyances in life, then this world would be a better place.

And that's the last I'll say on the matter. It sounds like you (and those who need to re-enter the line, for that matter) are in the minority anyway, so I'm really not worried about it!

So to simplify once again, waiting time of someone who is cutting is more important then waiting time of someone they cut infront of. And to answer what do you do to others, I do not cut.

 

[Hannathy]

So to simplify once again, waiting time of someone who is cutting is more important then waiting time of someone they cut infront of. And to answer what do you do to others, I do not cut.

exactly!

And why don't the line cutters have to think about the ones they are cutting and "spread a little pixie dust" by not cutting?

Why is it only the ones getting cut in front of that are supposed to be kind and generous? The golden rule goes both ways.

Who decided that? Oh I now the line cutters.

 

[KellyNY]

I'm not looking for sympathy or saying that it wasn't humanly possible to have one of us take her out, I'm saying that's not what we did in that situation. And, like I said, and as I'm sure you know, sometimes the tantrum just subsides. I believe the hope was once she saw Nana again, it might calm her down, but we didn't make it that long.

I don't think I'm alone in knowing that we haven't always taken the perfect action in every single situation when it comes to raising our kids. If you have, more power to you. Regardless, there's really no excuse for other guests to make the situation even worse with rude comments or sarcastic actions, which really could have led to an even nastier confrontation if I didn't control myself.

I never got "tantrum may just subside". So I have to listen to this hoping it will but she cries now, take her out and let it subside away from others. And how they made situation worse, you made them listen to that, they reacted accordingly, they were relieved, I would to.

 

[KellyNY]

exactly!

And why don't the line cutters have to think about the ones they are cutting and "spread a little pixie dust" by not cutting?

Why is it only the ones getting cut in front of that are supposed to be kind and generous? The golden rule goes both ways.

Who decided that? Oh I now the line cutters.

I know, they want to make you feel like it is not a big deal, that you should be above it, that you should be a bigger person, what they really want you to be a door mat and do as they want.

 

[Mkrop]

I'm not looking for sympathy or saying that it wasn't humanly possible to have one of us take her out, I'm saying that's not what we did in that situation. And, like I said, and as I'm sure you know, sometimes the tantrum just subsides. I believe the hope was once she saw Nana again, it might calm her down, but we didn't make it that long.

I don't think I'm alone in knowing that we haven't always taken the perfect action in every single situation when it comes to raising our kids. If you have, more power to you. Regardless, there's really no excuse for other guests to make the situation even worse with rude comments or sarcastic actions, which really could have led to an even nastier confrontation if I didn't control myself.

I did say that you didnt deserve the remarks. And no I never claimed to be the perfect parent, far from it. But if she was crying that long to warrant those remarks, I would have told DH to get him (since I have boys) the heck out of there now, I will wait for Nana. You claimed it took two of you with that type of meltdown and on that I was calling baloney, and only that.

Nope, once again, time ANYONE'S family is forced to "double wait" is more important than the 1-2 minutes it will cost me to let them through. I'm more than happy to be generous towards others and "spread a little pixie dust" as is OFTEN heralded on this board.

This thread didn't start out as "what should others do for you" it started as "what do you do about others?" And while I have used myself as an example, I have really been talking about how I, myself would act, and yes, how I would like to think that others would act as well. Maybe if everyone was a bit nicer to everyone else, and a bit more likely to let go of the little petty annoyances in life, then this world would be a better place.

And that's the last I'll say on the matter. It sounds like you (and those who need to re-enter the line, for that matter) are in the minority anyway, so I'm really not worried about it!

So you havent answered the question, are you going to let the single parent go through the line back to her/his original spot if they need to leave? Are you going to allow the solo traveler to do the same? Are you going to let those 10 tour group members to catch up to their party of 2? Because it you want to do onto others, and what is good for the goose is good for the gander and all that good stuff, then the FAIR thing to do would be to allow all those people by as well.

 

[AndreaA]

I did say that you didnt deserve the remarks. And no I never claimed to be the perfect parent, far from it. But if she was crying that long to warrant those remarks, I would have told DH to get him (since I have boys) the heck out of there now, I will wait for Nana. You claimed it took two of you with that type of meltdown and on that I was calling baloney, and only that.



So you havent answered the question, are you going to let the single parent go through the line back to her/his original spot if they need to leave? Are you going to allow the solo traveler to do the same? Are you going to let those 10 tour group members to catch up to their party of 2? Because it you want to do onto others, and what is good for the goose is good for the gander and all that good stuff, then the FAIR thing to do would be to allow all those people by as well.

I'll answer this last question, but then I am done with the thread. Yes, if a single person asked me to save his place, I absolutely would. In fact I HAVE done that in various lines. I can't see a reason why ten people would have needed to leave the line, nor do I think it has ever happened, so I'm not going to bother answering that. We are discussing re-joining the line, not rejoining a group.

 

[Sgtfox]

Wait, so you cut in line AND you're "that" person with the screaming kid in the shows? Wow.

Here's a protip for you: If an entire crowd of people applauds because you're leaving, you just might want to consider that you may have been doing something wrong...

 

[mhconley]

I politely stand aside and trip them as they pass while LOUDLY complaining about inconsiderate, line cutting jerks.

NOT!

As many have mentioned, life is too short to getcher panties in a twist about people over whom you have NO CONTROL. I am not the line police. Be polite, stand aside and let them pass - let it go, move on and enjoy your day... also, don't do it yourself. Karma and all that.

Martin

 

[rdearth]

Wait, so you cut in line AND you're "that" person with the screaming kid in the shows? Wow.

Here's a protip for you: If an entire crowd of people applauds because you're leaving, you just might want to consider that you may have been doing something wrong...

I don't cut in line. I've said I'm one the people who truly doesn't care if people do it.

I personally see more moral societal decay from a group of people laughing at, mocking, and deriding two young and relatively new parents than people cutting in line at an amusement park, but, hey, whatever....I guess I should have just smothered the kid into silence so people could enjoy their quiet time before anything was actually happening. Like I said, this all happened while waiting for the pre-show to begin, I guess I could've been the responsible parent and timed the meltdown so I would have all the facts for you, but evenso, how long are are we talking about having to deal with a screaming child here? Two minutes tops? And that justifies rudeness and impoliteness from a group of people?

Knowing that many on here are the kind that get so upset by line cutters or holders and that they are also the kind who would support these immature reactions toward two parents trying to calm a crying child makes me want to cut every line I see.