"its really not that bad." . . . And then when she said she STILL didn't gave her GED yet!!!
"It's not really that bad." Yeah. It'd be interesting to hear what she'd say to a friend who described her relationship that way. It's so easy to see the problems in other people's lives while overlooking your own, especially at that age.
I disagree about the GED though. She doesn't have her GED yet because 1) she has no self-discipline and cannot make herself stick to a task that isn't particularly fun. and 2) she has no real need to do it. She has a house, apparently an allowance, and she's doing fine. What happens when she finishes school? She goes to work. Her lifestyle won't improve, but her free time'll be slashed significantly. So what's her motivation to finish the GED?
I'm soundly on Barbara's side. Jenelle is lucky to have her mom, because Jace would belong to the state if she wasn't there protecting that child.
Yes, Barbara is better than Jenelle, but I am sure Jace would be better off adopted by someone else entirely. Remember that Barbara raised Jenelle. That child is exposed to a great deal of negativity in that household.
It was clear that Jo is still in love with Kail, and Kail just wants to move on. That was the way I took it.
I'm not sure if he loves her, or if it's a matter of "If I can't have her, neither can anyone else". Possessive, controlling -- he's the poster child for it. However, he does seem to be good with the baby.
I think Janet and Jo both need to grow up, They tried to control Kali while she was there. I'm glad she with Jordan, I hope they are both happy
Well, when you're living under someone else's roof, eating that person's food, they DO have some control over your choices. I'm not saying you have to be that person's slave, but when you're a dependant you don't have total freedom. You have to follow that person's rules and be reasonably compliant.
Honestly, that girl would've been better off going to a homeless shelter. They would've taken her in, given her a temporary home, and helped her get a good start at school. And they would've done it without the emotional issues that exist in Jo's house. Would it've been horrible? Yes, but it'd have been better than what she's been doing.
Jumping in here....long time lurker....
Absolutely these folks need Dr Phil! They need a HARD does of reality and introspect.(rolling up my sleeves for armchair psychology)
Janelle and Barbara: BOTH need therapy. It sounds as if janelle grew up with a dysfunctional family and lacked the true feelings of trust, acceptance, and unconditional love. She obviously learned her behavior from her mother. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Barbara has the life experience to know how to make positive choices but lacks the socio-emotional tools to be a positive influence on Janelle or Jace. Them living apart will not solve the underlying issues. They both need lots of therapy and counciling to learn how to be supportive of each other and Jace. Janelle is still playing the victim as she probably has all her life and gravitates to every low life that sees her as easy prey. She and Barbara are both reacting out of hurt because that is all they know. They are both looking for love and respect from each other.
Leah and Cory--Have real promise as a couple. They are the most responsible and communicative on the show. If they keep up their mutual support and trust, they will have a long lasting relationship. It is imperative that they continue to evolve as a couple because having a special needs child will put a huge strain on their relationship down the road.
Chelsea and Wang-a-Dang: WoW! She really has an unhealthy addiction to that douchbag. He obviously uses her for money and "camera spotlight." he disappears when the cameras are not on him. Chelsea needs to grow up and be independent. Randy needs to cut her off. When her finances and relationship become HER problem instead of everyone elses, she will grow up and become a woman. Right now she is stuck as a teenager with high school social ideals and a baby she is more worried about looking cute than actually providing her with a stable, loving, respectful home. There is no trust between Chelsea and wang-a-dang and never will be. It is a toxic relationship. She is addicted to him and her "perfect" family(what a joke) with him....he is just an immature wannabe user.
Kailey and Jo: She is annoying but she is the most independent and strong willed of all the moms. She makes responsible decisions with her and Isaac's future in mind. I think her obvious weakness is a need for love and acceptance but she is doing a wonderful job given her age and circumstance. Jo and his mother need to get real. I do not believe Janet is sincere and it feels phony on camera---which I believe is the real reason she is acting so "nice." Jo did not learn to be an ****** on his own. I am sure his parents modeled such behavior. Come on...if they TRULY thought of her as their daughter, they would have helped her rent an apartment so that she and Isaac would have a place to live.(I was also ticked off at Dr Drew's insistance on making kail feel guilty for her feelings...really? I think janet had something to do with this. Funny how noone talked about Jo's pot arrest either...just sayin
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OK--off my soapbox for now......
I agree with you 99% . . . I don't think Barbara and Janelle would benefit from counseling -- they're too far gone and don't WANT help. Counseling can only help people who are strongly motivated to change, and both of them think that THE OTHER is the source of all trouble in their lives. They both see themselves as good people in bad situations. I totally agree that Janelle is totally acting out of a desire for love and acceptance, but no one wants such a train-wreck for a girlfriend . . . except another train-wreck, so she's never going to do any better.
I think it's important to note that one big reason Cory and Leah are "making it" is that they're both high school graduates, which shows they both have the maturity to work towards a goal 'til it's done. Yes, high school is a goal that almost every American achieves, and it's something that's expected -- but a bunch of these other girls haven't managed it. Also, Cory was already out of school and working when the babies were born, which puts them a whole lot farther down the road than some of the others. But their biggest positive is that they both
made the choice to grow up, accept their situation, and work together.
Chelsea -- high school ideals. That's it exactly. Does it bother anyone else that every other word spoken in that house has to be "bleeped out"? That poor child's first real word is going to be obscene!
I agree that Jo learned his behavior from his mom. They both seem to have a real evil side to them.
