What are your drop dead issues?

[DISUNC]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";22503889]I'll second that and they will need to give me back SS because I am already 50 and some apples and grapes with that cheese would be nice...thank you [/QUOTE]

Government Sponsered Balanced Diet! A bottle of vino would be nice too!

When I was a kid, one of my friends up the block got the government cheese & peanut butter....I LOVED the peanut butter. It still is the best PB I ever ate! I use to beg my Mom to get the "welfare peanut butter" at the A&P!

 

[connorlevismom]

Except for taxes, I don't have one. No matter where they stand on everything else, I'll vote for them if they let the American people keep the money they work for.

After taxes, I think they should just butt out of everything else. It's none of their business.

Fix the roads, protect the country and get the hell out of the way.

I could not have said it better myself!

Kristine

 

[LukenDC]

Gay rights and foreign policy

 

[eclectics]

Except for taxes, I don't have one. No matter where they stand on everything else, I'll vote for them if they let the American people keep the money they work for.
After taxes, I think they should just butt out of everything else. It's none of their business.

Fix the roads, protect the country and get the hell out of the way.

Fix the roads and protect the country, but do it for free, huh?

 

[connorlevismom]

Fix the roads and protect the country, but do it for free, huh?

No not for free. But they could certainly use the money they already have more responsibly instead of just assuming that they can just raise taxes to fix the problem.

Kristine

 

[eclectics]

No not for free. But they could certainly use the money they already have more responsibly instead of just assuming that they can just raise taxes to fit the problem.

Kristine

I'm not disagreeing with that. But that's only part of it. It's illogical to expect taxes to go down when every other cost goes up. Cutting pork will certainly help a lot, but it won't solve soaring costs or our debt. That's the point I'm trying to make. Unless services are cut, it's inevitable that taxes will eventually have to rise to keep up.

 

["Got Disney"]

No not for free. But they could certainly use the money they already have more responsibly instead of just assuming that they can just raise taxes to fit the problem.

Kristine

Morning everyone,

I agree lets stop paying $900 for a toilet seat cover
My Dh sells tools and equipment all over the US...he has a lot of Military accounts. He is a fair business man and has many accounts.

The Sargent's that order from him tell him that there are many out there that charge a lot for an item. Some sales people gouge. DH will say sell an item for $200 where as another will sell it for $500....

Many in the military don't care about the price they just follow there budget and order. If they need it they buy it. DH does not do business that way and there for has many accounts that only order from him. Some don't even ask the price they just call up and place the order with a charge card.

My point you ask well spending the budget on something that you can get else where for $200 but don't take the time or have the time, waste money just to get it done. So for each budget that a Sargent gets for ordering much much much of it is just waste and filling the pockets of the greedy.

So spending all the way around needs to be fixed. Although these types of spending are no surprise to any of us know is it

Sorry for the chatter I just woke up, having my coffee, up with sick son all night and first post

Oh and this relates to taxs how you ask...lower things like this and taxs can be cut down

 

[pepperw23]

Except for taxes, I don't have one. No matter where they stand on everything else, I'll vote for them if they let the American people keep the money they work for.

After taxes, I think they should just butt out of everything else. It's none of their business.

Fix the roads, protect the country and get the hell out of the way.

Very well said.

 

[pepperw23]

Fix the roads and protect the country, but do it for free, huh?

Nothing is ever free lol. There are better ways to tax citizens than taking a cut of thier pay each payday, then taxing them again when they purchase something, then again, depending on that purchase annually etc etc... It is just crazy the amount of times we are taxed on a dollar (I forgot the exact number but it is alarming)

I am for the "Fair Tax" myself.

 

[Fitswimmer]

[quote="Got Disney";22509728]Morning everyone,

I agree lets stop paying $900 for a toilet seat cover
My Dh sells tools and equipment all over the US...he has a lot of Military accounts. He is a fair business man and has many accounts.

The Sargent's that order from him tell him that there are many out there that charge a lot for an item. Some sales people gouge. DH will say sell an item for $200 where as another will sell it for $500....

Many in the military don't care about the price they just follow there budget and order. If they need it they buy it. DH does not do business that way and there for has many accounts that only order from him. Some don't even ask the price they just call up and place the order with a charge card.

My point you ask well spending the budget on something that you can get else where for $200 but don't take the time or have the time, waste money just to get it done. So for each budget that a Sargent gets for ordering much much much of it is just waste and filling the pockets of the greedy.

So spending all the way around needs to be fixed. Although these types of spending are no surprise to any of us know is it

Sorry for the chatter I just woke up, having my coffee, up with sick son all night and first post [/quote]

I worked in Commercial Accounts for the Dept of Defense for 9 years. Now, things may have changed, but there were so many hoops to jump through before anything could be purchased that it was crazy. You had to go through a bidding process and take the lowest bidder before you could buy anything. The company had to meet a whole laundry list of regulations and we had to give priority to minority or woman owned businesses-even if they charged more. It wasn't like you could just run down to Home Depot and buy stuff off the shelf.

 

[pepperw23]

I worked in Commercial Accounts for the Dept of Defense for 9 years. Now, things may have changed, but there were so many hoops to jump through before anything could be purchased that it was crazy. You had to go through a bidding process and take the lowest bidder before you could buy anything. The company had to meet a whole laundry list of regulations and we had to give priority to minority or woman owned businesses-even if they charged more. It wasn't like you could just run down to Home Depot and buy stuff off the shelf.

Ha ha. I am a buyer for the Gov't (Contractor). I was gonna answer but it started to sound like a lesson in procurement lol. You are so right about the minority, woman owned etc... I have more leway than you probably did because we are a contractor.

I think a lot of the $900.00 toilet seat is metaphoric (Spelling) meaning the toilette seat may cost 50 bucks, but the labor involved to source it, buy it, install it etc...comes to 900.00 etc

I personally source everything. I go with the low bidder if they are also the best value. If a woman owned, 8A, etc are not low bidder, I will meet my quota with them when they are.

jeeze, I sound like the work me now, instead of the Disney me....boo me.

 

[jimmiej]

And obviously they aren't the ones complaining that's their number one issue, are they?

The question was to people who want their taxes reduced yet wish to keep the same level of services they have now. How can that be achieved (pork cuts notwithstanding) when the costs of those services continue to rise? As does our debt. And we are talking about the federal level here. What about state and local? Not as much pork to cut there. Are people okay with tax increases there or is it just the federal taxes they take umbridge with?

*Bolded mine*

That's just it! I don't want the same level of services! Our govt. has their hands in too many pies. Cool-Beans said it best,

I think they should just butt out of everything... It's none of their business.

Fix the roads, protect the country and get the hell out of the way.

 

[eclectics]

*Bolded mine*

That's just it! I don't want the same level of services! Our govt. has their hands in too many pies. Cool-Beans said it best,

I suspect that if you should ever get your dream of a government offering you an army, a local militia, and a highway system and that's it, you will discover it won't exactly be the utopia you think it will.

 

["Got Disney"]

I worked in Commercial Accounts for the Dept of Defense for 9 years. Now, things may have changed, but there were so many hoops to jump through before anything could be purchased that it was crazy. You had to go through a bidding process and take the lowest bidder before you could buy anything. The company had to meet a whole laundry list of regulations and we had to give priority to minority or woman owned businesses-even if they charged more. It wasn't like you could just run down to Home Depot and buy stuff off the shelf.

Not the same for DH (inependent Contractor)...he just calls them up and checks to see what they need and they purchase as long as they have there budget. He sells tools and equipment and does not need to go through a Bid war. His orders are from say $100 - $5,000 or so.

Say someone needs safety glasses...depending on how many areas the Sargent buys for( how many men) the order could be form 20 pair of safety glasses to 3,000 pairs of safety glasses.

and No they can not go to Home Depot but they can see who has the same product at a better price. That is why so many stay with him because he is fair, they know it and will only purchase from him...but many salesmen are ripoffs and some Sargent's just dint want to or care to order from the best seller, after all it is not coming out of the Sargen't pocket...and for the most part the Sargent's are very young. They get many calls from different companies daily so they are familiar with what they are offering.

 

["Got Disney"]

Ha ha. I am a buyer for the Gov't (Contractor). I was gonna answer but it started to sound like a lesson in procurement lol. You are so right about the minority, woman owned etc... I have more leway than you probably did because we are a contractor.

I think a lot of the $900.00 toilet seat is metaphoric (Spelling) meaning the toilette seat may cost 50 bucks, but the labor involved to source it, buy it, install it etc...comes to 900.00 etc

I personally source everything. I go with the low bidder if they are also the best value. If a woman owned, 8A, etc are not low bidder, I will meet my quota with them when they are.

jeeze, I sound like the work me now, instead of the Disney me....boo me.

Dh said it was much harder to purchase during the Clinton era and during the bush era it has been a piece of cake.....

Bush is more spend spend spend...Clinton was more on save save save....however with that said as a Clinton supporter....during that time our military was cut way down and Bush(who I think is..well) had to spend to build it back up...

 

[disneyfan67]

I suspect that if you should ever get your dream of a government offering you an army, a local militia, and a highway system and that's it, you will discover it won't exactly be the utopia you think it will.

I agree and I used to be a cheerleader for deregulating everything and getting the Government out of the way, until the California energy crisis of 2000- 2001. The energy deregulation bill that was signed into California law in 1994 created huge opportunities for fraud, price fixing, and just plain old gouging of the consumer by the energy companies, especially Enron. Here's a quote from the AG of California and comes from his office.

http://ag.ca.gov/antitrust/energy/

In 1999, the first full year of deregulation, California expenditures on wholesale electricity totaled $7.4 billion. Just one year later, those costs rose 277 percent, to $27.1 billion. In 2001, wholesale prices remained at the exorbitantly high level of $26.7 billion. Deregulation was supposed to bring cheaper, more reliable power. What California businesses and consumers got instead was gouged.

The tools energy traders used to pour profits into their pockets were market gaming devices bearing such provocative names as Fat Boy, Death Star, Get Shorty and Ricochet. The evidence shows generators lied to power grid operators and withheld electricity to further increase prices. In audio tapes one of the masterminds of market manipulation, Enron, even bragged about stealing money from "Grandma Millie" in California. Unfettered by federal energy regulators, power generators and traders plundered California, overcharging ratepayers by some $9 billion. They wreaked havoc on the state's economy, with some experts putting the total tab at more than $40 billion. PG&E went bankrupt, and Southern California Edison came close.

This incident and others like it clearly showed me while the talk and rhetoric of deregulating and "getting big Government out of the way" is great for campaigning, it's not practical in reality. There's just too much greed and evil in the hearts of some people. When given the chance those people will always take advantage of a opportunity to make a financial killing, regardless of who it hurts in the process. Look at what happened when the S&L industry was deregulated in the early 80's and how later in that decade and beyond tax payers were bailing those Saving and Loans right and left. We the tax payer got stuck holding the bill. You want deregulation and no government in your life, then try living in Mexico. They have no EPA or any of the thousands of safe guards we Americans have in place and take for granted in our daily lives.

 

[eclectics]

I agree and I used to be a cheerleader for deregulating everything and getting the Government out of the way, until the California energy crisis of 2000- 2001. The energy deregulation bill that was signed into California law in 1994 created huge opportunities for fraud, price fixing, and just plain old gouging of the consumer by the energy companies, especially Enron. Here's a quote from the AG of California and comes from his office.

http://ag.ca.gov/antitrust/energy/




This incident and others like it clearly showed me while the talk and rhetoric of deregulating and "getting big Government out of the way" is great for campaigning, it's not practical in reality. There's just too much greed and evil in the hearts of some people. When given the chance those people will always take advantage of a opportunity to make a financial killing, regardless of who it hurts in the process. Look at what happened when the S&L industry was deregulated in the early 80's and how later in that decade and beyond tax payers were bailing those Saving and Loans right and left. We the tax payer got stuck holding the bill. You want deregulation and no government in your life, then try living in Mexico. They have no EPA or any of the thousands of safe guards we Americans have in place and take for granted in our daily lives.

Well said Eddie, as usual.

 

[Uuaww]

Environment is all I care about.

 

[basas]

- Gay Rights (this is a current issue for me... I am not gay, but I will have nothing to due with a "leader" who is unwilling to give people basic rights)

Social issues such as abortion and gay marriage are also deal breakers for me.

Anyone who threatens the separation of church and state or believes that gay Americans should have fewer rights than the straight ones are absolutely "NO" in my book.

gay marriage

Civils Rights (including gay marriage)

*I will not consider a candidate who would be in favour of banning gay mairrage or any other civil right simply because of who somebody loves.

So I guess you all are voting for Mike Gravel or Dennis Kucinich? You certainly can’t be supporting John Edwards, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

 

[LilyWDW]

So I guess you all are voting for Mike Gravel or Dennis Kucinich? You certainly can’t be supporting John Edwards, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

I'll be honest, I don't support a single candidate that is currently in the running. None of them match up with me 100% on the issues I care about. As I said in an earlier post it will come down to the lesser of two evils for me during the presidential election unless something drastic happens before then.