Was Jill Carroll Really Kidnapped?

[Charade]

I'm sorry, but to second guess this woman's misery is...well, it's beyond words. Some of you need to stop watching Fox News and get your heads out of the pundant quick sand. Real nice to blame the innocent from the comfort of your warm, safe, house.

What the heck does Fox News have to do with this discussion?

 

[Stacerita]

 

[azgal81]

I don't really know much about this and didn't even know she was kidnapped until they had the story she was released. Well I think it is weird that she was released and most of the others weren't. I don't know if I would go as far as to say she faked the kidnapping.

 

[Jabber_Jaws]

I'm sorry, but to second guess this woman's misery is...well, it's beyond words. Some of you need to stop watching Fox News and get your heads out of the pundant quick sand. Real nice to blame the innocent from the comfort of your warm, safe, house.

Please…. Lets see here.

1. U.S. Marine Wassef Ali Hassoun faked his own abduction.
2. Jill Carroll kidnapped cries for her life on film.
3. She is released looking healthy.
4. Says her captors took real good care of her. ( different then from her first film )

The American public has already been fooled once, and then they see inconsistencies in Jill’s attitude. You would think some people would look at her story with a little skepticism. It has nothing to do with having your head in quick sand, or whatever news station you watch. Its called having an opinion about something.

If you think not believing this woman’s story makes us out of line. All I can say is sorry you feel that way.


P.S. I saw Elvis buying a whopper in Burger King Yesterday.


Cheers:

 

[momof2inPA]

Please…. Lets see here.

1. U.S. Marine Wassef Ali Hassoun faked his own abduction.
2. Jill Carroll kidnapped cries for her life on film.
3. She is released looking healthy.
4. Says her captors took real good care of her. ( different then from her first film )

The American public has already been fooled once, and then they see inconsistencies in Jill’s attitude. You would think some people would look at her story with a little skepticism. It has nothing to do with having your head in quick sand, or whatever news station you watch. Its called having an opinion about something.

If you think not believing this woman’s story makes us out of line. All I can say is sorry you feel that way.


P.S. I saw Elvis buying a whopper in Burger King Yesterday.


Cheers:

She was still IN CAPTIVITY when she made statements praising her care. During her other interview in which she just said the fed her and let her go to the bathroom, she was in a Sunni political office, not yet in American hands, and the Sunni's have ties to the insurgents that held her. I would like to see some of you doubters rail against your captors about their abusiveness and ill treatment right before they let you go.

 

[Jabber_Jaws]

She was still IN CAPTIVITY when she made statements praising her care. During her other interview in which she just said the fed her and let her go to the bathroom, she was in a Sunni political office, not yet in American hands, and the Sunni's have ties to the insurgents that held her. I would like to see some of you doubters rail against your captors about their abusiveness and ill treatment right before they let you go.

Are you sure she was in CAPTIVITY when she made the statements? Is there proof of this besides her word, or the word of her employer The Christian Science Monitor? I'm sorry but I don't know her, and her employer so I can't take their word at face value. If her captors come out and say " Yes we made her say those things" I would be more incline to believe her story. Until then, or I see any proof that will make me change my mind I will keep my opinion.

Cheers:

 

[momof2inPA]

Are you sure she was in CAPTIVITY when she made the statements? Is there proof of this besides her word, or the word of her employer The Christian Science Monitor? I'm sorry but I don't know her, and her employer so I can't take their word at face value. If her captors come out and say " Yes we made her say those things" I would be more incline to believe her story. Until then, or I see any proof that will make me change my mind I will keep my opinion.

Cheers:

Try a google search. It's in every article. Now you want to believe her captors, and you really think they will say they forced her to make statements? For heaven's sake.

 

[Jabber_Jaws]

Try a google search. It's in every article. Now you want to believe her captors, and you really think they will say they forced her to make statements? For heaven's sake.

I am not sure why you asked me to do a google search. Its in every article that she, and her employer said she was forced to make those statments. Could you provide a link to another source with first hand information. Not she told us, or we were told by her employer. Someone that was there to see that she was forced.

I will not take the word of someone I do not know, until they show me proof.

Cheers:

 

[jodifla]

I am not sure why you asked me to do a google search. Its in every article that she, and her employer said she was forced to make those statments. Could you provide a link to another source with first hand information. Not she told us, or we were told by her employer. Someone that was there to see that she was forced.

I will not take the word of someone I do not know, until they show me proof.

Cheers:

The way some people think is just unbelievable to me.

 

[Jabber_Jaws]

The way some people think is just unbelievable to me.

I agree 100%


Cheers:

 

[vivilasvegas]

I'm sorry, but to second guess this woman's misery is...well, it's beyond words. Some of you need to stop watching Fox News and get your heads out of the pundant quick sand. Real nice to blame the innocent from the comfort of your warm, safe, house.

I think some of you are outrageous. One poster is asking the laws on libel!!!!!!!!!! Some of you are calling people "not good Christians" (guess what, not very religious here), accusing people of being up FOX new's you know what...!!!!!!!!!!!

Get off your high horses and relax. It's a Disney message board. People can discuss things without it effecting the rest of the world.
or are we that important here?? In fact, this same type of discussion went on about that woman who supposedly was being held hostage by that murderer, but convinced him to turn himself in. Remember that? Lot's of people here thought here story was suspect.

I have to be honest, some of the reactions of "outrage " are making me giggle.

 

[Puffy2]

Carry on with your stone throwing, perhaps you can harrass some third graders next, and poke sticks at kittens while you're at it...

 

[vivilasvegas]

Carry on with your stone throwing, perhaps you can harrass some third graders next, and poke sticks at kittens while you're at it...

actually, I was just about to leave. It's time for me to walk down the street and kick some puppies...maybe knock a toddler down while I'm at it.
who knows? the day is soo young....

 

[DawnCt1]

If her captors come out and say " Yes we made her say those things" I would be more incline to believe her story. Until then, or I see any proof that will make me change my mind I will keep my opinion.

Cheers:

That is SOOOO FUNNY!!! We can believe the words of kidnapping, murdering thugs before we can believe the hostage! That's a good one!!

 

[Jabber_Jaws]

That is SOOOO FUNNY!!! We can believe the words of kidnapping, murdering thugs before we can believe the hostage! That's a good one!!

Glad you caught my tongue in cheek remark. My point is that I need more than her word that everything is on the up and up.


Cheers:

 

[momof2inPA]

Glad you caught my tongue in cheek remark. My point is that I need more than her word that everything is on the up and up.


Cheers:

I think you feel silly for writing it to begin with. When reading the articles, did you miss that she has spoken with her family?

 

[beattyfamily]

Carroll: Statements Made Under Threat

RAMSTEIN AIR BASE, Germany - Protected by the U.S. military and far from the country where she had been held hostage, Jill Carroll strongly disavowed statements she had made during captivity in Iraq and shortly after her release, saying Saturday she had been repeatedly threatened.

In a video, recorded before she was freed and posted by her captors on an Islamist Web site, Carroll spoke out against the U.S. military presence. But in a statement Saturday, she said the recording was made under threat. Her editor has said three men were pointing guns at her at the time.

"During my last night in captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video. They told me I would be released if I cooperated. I was living in a threatening environment, under their control, and wanted to go home alive. So I agreed," she said in a statement read by her editor in Boston.

"Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not."

Carroll arrived in Germany on Saturday on a U.S. military transport plane on her way back to the United States and was expected in Boston on Sunday. The Islamic headscarf she wore as a hostage was gone, and she instead wore jeans and a gray sweater.

The 28-year-old journalist — a freelancer for the Boston-based Christian Science Monitor — was seized Jan. 7 in western Baghdad by gunmen who killed her Iraqi translator. She was dropped off Thursday — 82 days later — at an office of the Iraqi Islamic Party, a Sunni Arab organization, and later escorted by the U.S. military to the Green Zone, the fortified compound in Baghdad protecting the U.S. embassy and other facilities.

In the statement, Carroll also disavowed an interview she gave to the party shortly after her release. She said the party had promised her the interview would not be aired "and broke their word."

"At any rate, fearing retribution from my captors, I did not speak freely. Out of fear, I said I wasn't threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times," she said. "Also, at least two false statements about me have been widely aired: One — that I refused to travel and cooperate with the U.S. military, and two — that I refused to discuss my captivity with U.S. officials. Again, neither statement is true."

The remarks have drawn criticism from conservative bloggers and commentators, but the Monitor said "Carroll did what many hostage experts and past captives would have urged her to do: Give the men who held the power of life and death over her what they wanted."

Carroll has said her kidnappers confined her to a small, soundproof room with frosted, opaque windows.

After a day in seclusion, she left Balad Air Base near Baghdad on Saturday on a plane also carrying several wounded soldiers. Carroll smiled and peered with bemusement through the cockpit window at the dozens of television cameras on the tarmac at Ramstein Air Force Base.

"I'm happy to be here," she said to Col. Kurt Lohide, the U.S. officer who greeted her.

Carroll, who had studied Arabic, attracted a huge amount of sympathy during her ordeal, and a wide variety of groups in the Middle East, including the Islamic militant group Hamas, appealed for her release.

Aside from the short interview aired on Iraqi television upon her release, Carroll had otherwise not shown herself in public prior to her brief appearance Saturday.

The kidnappers, calling themselves the Revenge Brigades, had demanded the release of all female detainees in Iraq by Feb. 26 or Carroll would be killed. U.S. officials did release some female detainees at the time, but said it had nothing to do with the demands.

In the video posted Friday, her abductors said they freed Carroll because "the American government met some of our demands by releasing some of our women from prison."

Also in the video, she called on President Bush to bring American troops home.

"Tens of thousands ... have lost their lives here because of the occupation," she said in the video. "I think Americans need to think about that and realize day-to-day how difficult life is here."

She said the insurgents were "only trying to defend their country ... to stop an illegal and dangerous and deadly occupation."

In her statement Saturday, she condemned her captors, although she did not address the war in Iraq.

"I will not engage in polemics. But let me be clear: I abhor all who kidnap and murder civilians, and my captors are clearly guilty of both crimes," she said.

The Monitor's editor, Richard Bergenheim, said Friday that Carroll's parents told him the video was "conducted under duress."

"When you're making a video and having to recite certain things with three men with machine guns standing over you, you're probably going to say exactly what you're told to say," Bergenheim told ABC television.

Bergenheim said Saturday there were no negotiations that he knew of for Carroll's release and no ransom was paid. The paper hired her a week after she kidnapped.

He said she was on her way home and "her family is just absolutely rejoicing."

It was unclear precisely when Carroll would arrive. According to Richard Walsh, a spokesman for the Massachusetts Port Authority, Carroll was to land at Logan International Airport in Boston late Sunday morning.

In her statement, Carroll thanked those who had helped secure her release and said she wanted time to recover.

"This has been a taxing 12 weeks for me and for my family," she said. "Please allow us some quiet time alone, together."

 

[DWDreams]

If anyone can recall the video of her pleading for her life that they aired -- well, I don't think you can fake terror like that.

 

[nwdisgal]

Well my first thought, before I saw her follow-on statement was that it looked like a good propaganda campaign on the part of the captors. They looked good to the Iraqi people because they released her and supposedly didn't harm her, Jill's credibility was initially questioned by her own countrymen because of her outward healthy appearance ... and the captors initially came up smelling like a rose I'm glad she was eventually able to come out and set the record straight.

 

[Lanshark]

With 24 hour news and the internet, conspiracy theories pop up with every news story.

Sometimes though, a cigar is just a cigar.