Warning: HOT Chicken McNuggets are now a danger!

[dez1978]

Child Restraints – Car Seats and Booster Seats

• Florida law requires children age 5 and under to be secured properly in a crash-tested, federally approved child restraint device.
• Children ages 0 through 3 must be in child restraint devices of a separate carrier or a vehicle manufacturer’s integrated child seat.
• Children age 4 through 5 must be in a separate carrier, integrated child seat or booster seat.
• The best child seat is one that fits your child, fits your car and is used properly every time you drive.
• Read the car seat’s instruction manual and the portion of your vehicle’s owner manual when you install a car seat.

According to FL law a child over 5 years old does not require a seat. I’m in no way saying this is the safest thing ( far from it) but my best guess says the child was just buckled in and not in a car seat/booster of any kind.

The child was 4 when it happened so hopefully was in a seat of some sort

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Actually, forever, McDonalds (along with other restaurants) is supposed to serve coffee at a "safe", although still "hot" temperature. Those two words are NOT mutually exclusive. If you haven't already, I suggest looking into the true facts of the coffee case. Let me help you...
https://www.citizen.org/article/legal-myths-the-mcdonalds-hot-coffee-case/
If you don't feel like reading, here's a video...

Now, on to the hot McNugget...

As was proven in the coffee case, something can be "hot" AND be "safe". So, my question would be was the nugget SO hot, it was unsafe to touch or eat? Did the franchise intentionally heat food hotter than what is "normal"/"safe"? The article, like most news articles, leaves a lot of facts out. What did the TESTIMONY say? I'm assuming there were experts on how hot the nuggets were supposed to be, how hot they actually were (OK, suspected they were), and then judge from there.

There's not enough information in the article posted to come to a judgement, although I'm sure some will.

A great post. However, those that need to read it probably won't.

 

[MIGrandma]

Oh good heavens, this world is going to heck in a hand basket

 

[Dead2009]

I don't feel bad for anyone involved in this, because it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that fast food can be, at times, very hot, especially if it just came off their machines. But we live in a world where people are morons and need to ambo chase every time something goes wrong.

 

[GAN]

Actually, forever, McDonalds (along with other restaurants) is supposed to serve coffee at a "safe", although still "hot" temperature. Those two words are NOT mutually exclusive. If you haven't already, I suggest looking into the true facts of the coffee case. Let me help you...
https://www.citizen.org/article/legal-myths-the-mcdonalds-hot-coffee-case/
If you don't feel like reading, here's a video...

Now, on to the hot McNugget...

As was proven in the coffee case, something can be "hot" AND be "safe". So, my question would be was the nugget SO hot, it was unsafe to touch or eat? Did the franchise intentionally heat food hotter than what is "normal"/"safe"? The article, like most news articles, leaves a lot of facts out. What did the TESTIMONY say? I'm assuming there were experts on how hot the nuggets were supposed to be, how hot they actually were (OK, suspected they were), and then judge from there.

There's not enough information in the article posted to come to a judgement, although I'm sure some will.

Yep …McDonalds brought that upon themselves. The anti-lawyer faction used it to make a story about how out of control legal damage cases were …and I’m sure there are many “ambulance chasers” but not in this case.

 

[PollyannaMom]

I totally thought this was going to be a review of the spicy mcnuggets.

Me too!

 

[CAPSLOCK]

I don't know how McD can be faulted that food was dropped so inaccessibly that it was left pressed against skin for an extended amount of time. How can they anticipate that? McDonalds does not bear responsibility for freak accident of which parent is at least partially to blame (could/should have established that nuggets are "eating temp" before giving to a child who is unable to make that determination). If parent isn't going to check every time, accept the consequences of not doing so.

Most people want hot food to be hot, not warm, and reasonable people should expect freshly fried food to be hot. More so if you order 32 nuggets; those suckers were just fried for you. They don't have that many nuggets pre-fried & thus sitting around cooling down.

Accidents happen, and they aren't always someone else's fault.

 

[slo]

I have no words for this

I guess fast food restaurants are going to need to put warnings on everything .
Like…..
Hey….the shake is super cold and may cause brain freeze
Hey….the coffee is hot and may burn the inside of your mouth
Hey….the frappe is loaded with calories and may cause weight gain
Hey….the burger you ordered requires fully chewing it or may cause choking
Hey….the fries you ordered have salt that may cause blood pressure issues
Hey….your chicken nugget is cooked in hot oil and may cause burning
We can go on and on

I don’t know about all of you, but I think I’m intelligent enough to not need these warnings. Everything I listed above is common sense. I feel bad for the little girl, I really do, no one likes to hear of a child getting hurt, but it was an unfortunate thing that happened. Maybe the mom should have told their child to wait 10 minutes before eating, maybe the mom shouldn’t have allowed the child to eat without supervision, maybe the mom shouldn’t allow the child to eat in the car, maybe the mom should have planned better and brought her own food and on and on it goes

I think nobody is to blame here.
Both sides can easily finger point at each other
I do think it was a money grab and she was successful at it.

 

[CamillaF]

The Coffee Lady won her case against McDonalds because the Coffee was being kept way above health department guidelines. The stores were caught by the health department and fined many times. McDonalds sent a corporate rule that they should disregard the health department and serve their coffee at the temp they want because it tasted better. The coffee spilled all over the lady in the car causing her burns so bad she needed sugary. I doubt that this case will have the same liability for McDonalds. I assumed they learned their lesson and are following health department rules.

Without a smoking gun like the memo from McDonalds telling the franchise to ignore the health department, or clear evidence that the only way this burn could have been made is if the nuggets were given to them hotter then the health department allows, I can't see this going any where.

 

[tvguy]

The Coffee Lady won her case against McDonalds because the Coffee was being kept way above health department guidelines. The stores were caught by the health department and fined many times. McDonalds sent a corporate rule that they should disregard the health department and serve their coffee at the temp they want because it tasted better. The coffee spilled all over the lady in the car causing her burns so bad she needed sugary. I doubt that this case will have the same liability for McDonalds. I assumed they learned their lesson and are following health department rules.

Without a smoking gun like the memo from McDonalds telling the franchise to ignore the health department, or clear evidence that the only way this burn could have been made is if the nuggets were given to them hotter then the health department allows, I can't see this going any where.

You realize that health guidelines consider hot holding temperatures to be only 135 degrees? We go to a coffee stand (Dutch Brothers) every Sunday and they know my wife. She wants her coffee at 200 degrees, and they fix it that way, but are required to double cup it. She has a foam sleeve that she brings with her so they wave the double cupping. 200 degrees is as hot as they can make a coffee drink without burning the milk.
While that 200 degrees is way too hot for me, 135 degrees is way too cold for me.

 

[mjkacmom]

I am really trying to figure out how this happened. Where would there be metal near the childs legs? If the child was in a 5pt harness, the part between the legs is the same material as the straps (like seatbelt material) and the buckle part is a plastic casing. If she was in a booster, the seatbelt buckle is outside of the booster and wouldn't be touching the child at all. And who doesn't check those before handing food to their kids at that age? Either for temp or to make sure it's the right thing and nothing weird is in there, bc McD can be sketchy. I'm not trying to victim blame, just thinking it thru to make it make sense. Like for those to be that hot, they had to have just come out of the fryer in the last 2-3 min. Grease has to be what, like 400 to fry them? So how would they take food right out of a fryer and serve it quickly at say, 160 without putting it in the cooler to cool off? As an adult, don't you just assume fried food is going to be really hot bc it's fried at a high temp? I just have a healthy dose of skepticism these days regarding things like this. I'm skeptical about everything now lol

I don't blame her for either of those things. I've given my kids fast food in the car tons of times. I do question her common sense when handing fresh fried food to a young, autistic child without checking it first.

I feel like adults should expect fresh fried foods to be possibly burn you hot bc you know the temp it is cooked at. You might not expect coffee to be burn you hot because it doesn't have to be brewed quite as hot. Tho, I still think that was a dumb lawsuit too.

Have you actually taken the time to learn about the coffee lawsuit? Someone posted a link above, you will clearly learn that McDonald’s was at fault and the burned was a victim of not just jot coffee.

 

[georgina]

I don't feel bad for anyone involved in this, because it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that fast food can be, at times, very hot, especially if it just came off their machines. But we live in a world where people are morons and need to ambo chase every time something goes wrong.

You don't feel bad for a 4 year old girl who got burned?

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

You don't feel bad for a 4 year old girl who got burned?

It was her own fault. She should have picked a better family.

 

[Living42Day]

I feel a little bad now. I was excited that they had hot and spicy chicken nuggets. I haven't ate at McDonald's in years, but always loved the Hot n Spicy chicken sandwich.

Poor girl, but agree - I'm curious on the details of the situation. Seems there might be a bit more to the story.

 

[hrhdhd]

All I know is that I feel sorry for the vilification this mother is going to receive for giving her child 1) fast food, and 2) letting her eat it while driving.

I'll vilify her for taking photos and video instead of getting her child medical assistance.

 

[mylilnikita]

So the mom can’t feel any extreme heat coming from the nugget box?

 

[pens4821]

Speaking of the coffee incident. I read that article, and have read others in the past on the situation. I will never agree with the outcome. While they may have found the legal grounds to award such an outrageous amount, I feel it was her fault. How can they say it was 20% her fault (I know that’s only part of the settlement), when IMO the spilling of the coffee was 100% her fault so it being too hot or what not should not matter. If they spilled it on her, then ok. At most they should’ve had to pay her medical bills, but even that is pushing it in my eyes.

Not that it matters, just giving my opinion since I’ve seen a couple people mention reading the article. It doesn’t change everyone’s opinion on the situation.

 

[Neapolitan Ice Cream]

Over here a similar thing happened with a Mc. Donalds apple pie - someone bit into a particularly hot one and got a blister. They sued, Mc. Donalds lost. Now they have to print "Warning - Contents may be hot" on the wrapper (or words to that effect).

 

[Dead2009]

You don't feel bad for a 4 year old girl who got burned?

A mother gives a child a hot box of food....in the car....where she knows the child is going to make a mess, and Im supposed to go "oh man that sucks"? Nah. I dont feel sorry for anyone in this case.

 

[Lewisc]

Speaking of the coffee incident. I read that article, and have read others in the past on the situation. I will never agree with the outcome. While they may have found the legal grounds to award such an outrageous amount, I feel it was her fault. How can they say it was 20% her fault (I know that’s only part of the settlement), when IMO the spilling of the coffee was 100% her fault so it being too hot or what not should not matter. If they spilled it on her, then ok. At most they should’ve had to pay her medical bills, but even that is pushing it in my eyes.

Not that it matters, just giving my opinion since I’ve seen a couple people mention reading the article. It doesn’t change everyone’s opinion on the situation.

You obviously didn't read the details of the case.

Edited to add a link
https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts