Want Better DVC Benefits?

[Desperado]

"Want Better DVC Benefits?"

Nope, no need.

Further more if they were offerred, all those stating they don't want them or theres no need for them should refuse to take advantage of them. Certainly many people did the same by returning the tax cuts received over the last 4 years.

 

[DrTomorrow]

Originally posted by Desperado
[B[...] Further more if they were offerred, all those stating they don't want them or theres no need for them should refuse to take advantage of them. [...] [/B]

The humor (and illogic) in this brightened my day - thanks!

 

[RuthnPaul]

We just got back from Disney and the parks certainly didn't seem to be lacking business regardless of what the tickets / passes cost!

Disney Doll, totally agree with your assessment of Universal! We've only been once and have never thought about returning! It lacks that certain "magical" something!

 

[Desperado]

Originally posted by DrTomorrow
The humor (and illogic) in this brightened my day - thanks!

Glad to help.

I don't know about illogic, if you make a stance, stand by it. If you don't want benefits, don't use them. If you don't want a tax cut, send it back. Otherwise .......

 

[DrTomorrow]

Originally posted by Desperado
Glad to help.

I don't know about illogic, if you make a stance, stand by it. If you don't want benefits, don't use them. If you don't want a tax cut, send it back. Otherwise .......

Well, I'm not sure that saying "I don't need better benefits to feel I'm getting good value from DVC" is taking a stand; it's just an opinion. If they do start offering additional benefits - particularly if they're funded all or in part by DVC dues - you can bet your donkey I'll be using them - just like I use the ones currently offered that I didn't ask for.

As for the illogic, riddle me this: If I say that I am against government-funded health care for all, and the government - disregarding my sage opinion - institutes it anyway, are you saying that, merely because I didn't support it, I am prohibited from ever utilizing it? Even though I'm paying for it?

Or try this: If I vote for Candidate X for President, and Candidate Y wins, must I therefore forego any and all benefits that would come to me because I didn't vote for the winner?

 

[kellydizfan]

Originally posted by lillasmom
I would like options on ticket discounts! For all the time and money we spend, I think that would be fair.

I agree - ticket prices were more than my airfair on my october 04 visit.

 

[Desperado]

Originally posted by DrTomorrow
....As for the illogic, riddle me this: If I say that I am against government-funded health care for all, and the government - disregarding my sage opinion - institutes it anyway, are you saying that, merely because I didn't support it, I am prohibited from ever utilizing it? Even though I'm paying for it?

Or try this: If I vote for Candidate X for President, and Candidate Y wins, must I therefore forego any and all benefits that would come to me because I didn't vote for the winner?

Well, to take this discussion much further would be taking the tread way off topic. Enjoy your unreturned tax cut.

I look forward to being in line with somone paying for tickets and hear them say, no thank you, even though I'm qualified for the new DVC park pass discount, I prefer to pay full price.

 

[CRSNDSNY]

I just want to say (because I'm not sure if Desperado was specifically talking about my post) that although I do take advantage of whatever perks and discounts DVC allows me that I certainly do not expect them to continually offer these perks. Membership itself is a perk.

I have no idea how you are relating this to tax cuts. I think there is a huge difference. And I do not even see how this parallels our conversation here.

I'm just happy to take whatever discounts APs or DVC membership gives me. But purely just having an AP or DVC either in the short-term or long-term is enough of a financial benefit & savings to me to purchase in the first place.


Now I'm confusing myself!!! UGH! I'm a few days too late for my retort! LOL

 

[CRSNDSNY]

...a double post to add to my confusion!!! LOL

 

[mndisfam]

What if instead of discounts (which would be great) they offered other special perks?

Like 2 fast passes a day b4 you got in a park - or a help with getting some priority seating? Or anything else "special."

We shelled out xtra bucks to stay at the concierge suite at AKL for the sole reason I wanted to go on the Sunset Safari - which was only open to concierge guests. It cost $150 per person - on top of the extra money to stay concierge level. But - it was the best night we ever had at Disney.

I also asked the concierge to get tix (if she could) to Cinderella's Royal Table, and she got them 6 days b4 we left.

I don't think we got much extra out of the concierge than going to those events - but it was really nice to get a little special "club" treatment and personal help. Even when they couldn't get us something, they were great about answering questions.

 

[OneMoreTry]

Next time we're down we'll do Universal/IOA and maybe Sea World. We'll be staying at OKW and I don't even know if we'll see a Disney Park that trip. Unless we decide to go to MVMCP.

 

[Laurabearz]

Originally posted by chris1gill
We've totally changed the way we vacation down at Disney... we stay at the DVC resorts for the atmosphere, but we now spend a lot more time off site & it is a result of the ticket media pricing... AP's for four are 1600.00 & 7 day park hoppers would set us back 1100.00, so we bought PH's a while back & only use one day in the park's, this last time we went to MNSHHP & that bought us time there... without a sizeable discount we'll keep enjoying ourselves at Seaworld & Bush Gardens (and Universal in another year or so)....

I don't expect a discount, but unless I get one, our plans aren't changing.....

This is similar to what we do... we got three trips outta 7 day php and still have all the plus's left for future all water park trips, when the kids are older. Well 4 trips if you count our NO PARK trip last September. We all hold 2 year premimum annual passes for US/IOA that I got for 170 for 2 years!

If we got a decent break in AP's a little part of everyday would be in a WDW park, spending money!

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

Laurabearz I agree. Tons of companies give incentives to entice people to spend their money at their business rather than at a competitors.

I think Disney is using discounts on hotel rooms for this purpose. The first thing you see is how the POP Century is $55 a night when you visit the WDW site.

IMO just because they get people into the hotels doesn't mean they are getting them into the parks. I think it is a bad idea to offer such cheap hotel rates.

If the park admission was cheaper they wouldn't have to entice people to stay on site. Lower park admission would guarantee park entry and money spent at Disney rather than staying at the POP and going to Universal, sea world etc.

Roy Disney's site speaks about this alot at savedisney.com He feels admission is definitely too high and the hotel gimmicks are a bad idea.

 

[MAC3]

Originally posted by spiceycat
I really want a DVC discount on the annual pass,too!!!

Some sort of discount would be nice!

 

[cseca]

I buy groceries when they're on sale, cut coupons, and buy my clothes in outlet mall.
Of course I want better DVC benefits.

But even without one right now, I still spend money on disney trips and AP every year.
Better benefits will make me want to visit more times to WDW, I think. Since I could only spend so much $/year on vacation...

 

[colleen costello]

We have felt lately like we get a bit more "value" out of AP's even though they are pricey. Because of work/school, we travel when it's crowded and it's hard to see much in a day. The late hours that suit us are a thing of the past and a lot of attractions are closed or running on limited schedules. All this has made the $50 per day" kind of stressful -- we felt like we weren't seeing enough to justify the high ticket price. With the annual pass, we can go in mornings to see some things, evenings for others, visit just for a parade or try again the next day if Fantasmic gets rained out.

We went to Epcot this June and got fastpasses for Test Track hours later. Ellen's Energy Adventure was broken (temporarily?) and Wonders of Life was completely closed, despite high attendance that week. We literally had nothing much we wanted to do, so we went over to the MK and had lunch in the castle. If I had shelled out over $200 in tix for the 4 of us to do this, I would have been mad. So overall I think AP's are a better deal... but very expensive. We won't keep getting them unless they offer a discount. We'll go back to the hoppers and hang out by the pool every other day.

 

[castleri]

spiceycat- Be sure to take your Portable perks thingy to Kona Cafe when you go - We were there in Sept and I knew it was on the list for discounts but couldn't remember if it was both lunch and dinner. asked the CM at the desk and was told lunch only - didn't argue and then afterwards when I looked up something else saw that we should have had the discount for dinner - Will be sure to carry that little book with me from now on.

Sure would like to see discounts on admission media of some kind other that UPH. We always have days we don't do parks so buy 7 day PHP now and use it for two trips but would do things differently with an AP rate equal to the Fl resident one. I had the AP this year and made 4 trips so really got my money's worth as I did do some half days etc. but that is not the norm for us- usually just one trip. I guess they might have to put in some way of controlling who could get the AP discount such as only those named on the contract and immediate family at the same adress or a limit per contract number.

 

[DrTomorrow]

Originally posted by 3DisneyNUTS
[...] IMO just because they get people into the hotels doesn't mean they are getting them into the parks. I think it is a bad idea to offer such cheap hotel rates.

Well, I disagree. With the prices that Disney charges for on-site rooms, even with a discount, I'm pretty sure that the people staying on-site are there for the "magic" and "pixie dust" and are primarily visiting the WDW parks. If folks are in town to do US/IOA, SW, etc. - with maybe a day at Disney - they're probably staying at an off-site hotel.

If the park admission was cheaper they wouldn't have to entice people to stay on site. Lower park admission would guarantee park entry and money spent at Disney rather than staying at the POP and going to Universal, sea world etc.

I doubt that a price drop is going to "guarantee" Disney anything. There's also an issue about non-tangibles. Disney has to be very careful about their image and the fact that they are often viewed in an entirely different light than most everyone else. If they become merely another choice, and start having too many sales, coupons, discounts, etc., then they're the same as all the rest. In some respects, like many other luxury items, Disney's image is enhanced by charging a higher price.

IMHO - YMMV

 

[pkitty]

As a foreign visitor and DVC owner I would like to see some sort of a reduction in pass pricing. We have the fluctuating exchange rate to deal with every month when we pay our fees, annually when we pay our dues and then we have the additional expense of the pass pricing to contend with. We signed up for DVC because we have thoroughly enjoyed all of our trips to disney (7) in total so far and prefer to spend our money there, however even a slight break in the pass prices would be appreciated. This would in all likelihood even cause us to buy additional point in the future as well. We prefer the Hoppers because we are never sure if we will be able to maximize the benefits of AP's ( in case something comes up and we can't travel). It would be nice to have a pass "option" like the Hoppers. On our very first DVC sign up (for the tour) the lady at the DVC booth at our resort told us that she recieved the first 10 years worth of admissions "free" when she bought at OKW...she even said that the passes are to pricey for her to want to spend extended time in the parks and that this was unfortunate. Even though her DVC is long paid for she is now retired and spending $1000 or more on passes is difficult to justify.

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

Originally posted by DrTomorrow
Well, I disagree. With the prices that Disney charges for on-site rooms, even with a discount, I'm pretty sure that the people staying on-site are there for the "magic" and "pixie dust" and are primarily visiting the WDW parks. If folks are in town to do US/IOA, SW, etc. - with maybe a day at Disney - they're probably staying at an off-site hotel.

I doubt that a price drop is going to "guarantee" Disney anything. There's also an issue about non-tangibles. Disney has to be very careful about their image and the fact that they are often viewed in an entirely different light than most everyone else. If they become merely another choice, and start having too many sales, coupons, discounts, etc., then they're the same as all the rest. In some respects, like many other luxury items, Disney's image is enhanced by charging a higher price.

IMHO - YMMV

Yeah but this is exactly what Roy Disney disagrees with. He feels the gimmicks are cheapening Disney while the ticket prices are scaring away familiels. He explains it better on the savedisney site.