Waiting for DISNEYLAND HOTEL DVC Thread (see post 1 for updates)

[Nirek]

Maybe I’m overly optimistic, but with the announcement today of the Poly tower, I’m pretty skeptical of a $300 per point tag on DLT. Disney is obviously going to have inventory at poly, probably inventory at VGF, inventory at RIV, maybe still at Aulani to move. If one resort is priced significantly higher than the others, even if it on the west coast, it’s hard to imagine it moving at a good rate. I really want DLT, but if it’s $300 and VGF is $230… maybe I can settle for extra trips to WDW. I’m sure I’m not the only one who thinks that way.

Also, I’d suspect there’s fair demand for VGF, but they put it up at the same cost as other featured resorts.

 

[ScottJayhawk]

Maybe I’m overly optimistic, but with the announcement today of the Poly tower, I’m pretty skeptical of a $300 per point tag on DLT. Disney is obviously going to have inventory at poly, probably inventory at VGF, inventory at RIV, maybe still at Aulani to move. If one resort is priced significantly higher than the others, even if it on the west coast, it’s hard to imagine it moving at a good rate. I really want DLT, but if it’s $300 and VGF is $230… maybe I can settle for extra trips to WDW. I’m sure I’m not the only one who thinks that way.

Also, I’d suspect there’s fair demand for VGF, but they put it up at the same cost as other featured resorts.

Agree and I’ve been very adamant that over $250 is highly likely and $300 shouldn’t surprise us. But the price plus discounts at the new VGF really surprised me. It could be because the contract length is shorter and the demand at GC can’t be ignored but I did get, at least temporarily, less pessimistic.

 

[UrsulaWantsYourSoul]

It seems to go up about $6/year so $213-215 seems likely. Just have to ignore the sold out price of VGC. VGF had a high sold out price and many people thought VGF2 would be priced around that but nope… regular going rate for other actively selling resorts. They can of course make impact with incentives/lack there of and the point chart. But yes I’m hoping those who are guessing high numbers are wrong here as well (even though yes only the second dvc at DLR and yes even though So Cal people have lots of money).

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

Maybe I’m overly optimistic, but with the announcement today of the Poly tower, I’m pretty skeptical of a $300 per point tag on DLT. Disney is obviously going to have inventory at poly, probably inventory at VGF, inventory at RIV, maybe still at Aulani to move. If one resort is priced significantly higher than the others, even if it on the west coast, it’s hard to imagine it moving at a good rate. I really want DLT, but if it’s $300 and VGF is $230… maybe I can settle for extra trips to WDW. I’m sure I’m not the only one who thinks that way.

Also, I’d suspect there’s fair demand for VGF, but they put it up at the same cost as other featured resorts.

Yeah this will go on sale while VGF is still active and well before Poly, probably next spring or summer. With 4 resorts for sale when it goes on sale and 4 on sale again once Poly 2 comes online, it’s gonna have to be priced to move.

I still wouldn’t be shocked by a premium but I think it would be a small premium, like 5%.

 

[Nirek]

It seems to go up about $6/year so $213-215 seems likely. Just have to ignore the sold out price of VGC. VGF had a high sold out price and many people thought VGF2 would be priced around that but nope… regular going rate for other actively selling resorts. They can of course make impact with incentives/lack there of and the point chart. But yes I’m hoping those who are guessing high numbers are wrong here as well (even though yes only the second dvc at DLR and yes even though So Cal people have lots of money).

The point chart is also limited by the fact that you can exchange into Disneyland Hotel (the regular rooms) with any points. It’s high per night, like 50ish points, but they can’t go higher than that or there’s no incentive to buy at all. In fact, all resorts are much higher per point booking this way. Example: regular DVC per night point cost at GCH for a night in June in a studio is around 26 points. Booking the same night through exchange is 76 points! That’s 292% the point cost per night! If the rates are similar, Disneyland hotel, which by exchange is 61 points per night in June in a studio should be around 21 points per night.

Just for fun I looked it over, and no resort at WDW or DLR costs less than 200% more when exchanging. That’d cap studio rooms at DLT at around 30 points per night in most seasons, and 33 in high season. I still think it’ll be below that because I can’t see them charging more per night than GCH.

 

[upritbass]

DVC and the hotels are different entities in the Disney corporate structure. The exchange rate for DVC to hotel is fixed at $10/point, so $760/night no view GCH converts to 76 points from any DVC property, not just VGC.

 

[Nirek]

DVC and the hotels are different entities in the Disney corporate structure. The exchange rate for DVC to hotel is fixed at $10/point, so $760/night no view GCH converts to 76 points from any DVC property, not just VGC.

Right, right, I get that. What I’m comparing is price in points through DVC vs price in points through exchange. The idea is to figure out how advantageous booking through DVC is, and to use that to project the points chart for DLT. If the cost of booking via exchange is usually at least 2.5 times the cost of booking without exchange, we can use the Disneyland Hotel price per night via exchange (61 points for a standard room in summer) to project the price per point through DVC when the resort opens (projection - 21-25 points). I could be way off, and DLT could be the first resort where the cost via exchange is NOT at least 2.5 times the cost through DVC (meaning the points chart is very unfavorable to the buyer) but I was encouraged by that data.

 

[upritbass]

Color me confused. You can exchange any DVC points for any Disney hotel. What is the purpose of cherry-picking just DLT/DLH?

 

[Nirek]

Color me confused. You can exchange any DVC points for any Disney hotel. What is the purpose of cherry-picking just DLT/DLH?

Yes, you can exchange into any hotel. But we have DVC point charts for all those hotels. DLT is the only resort we know is coming which has not DVC point chart, but which DOES have an exchange point chart. I’m trying to use the exchange chart to project the DVC chart.

There have been suggestions that Disney may make DLT’s point chart very high per night. I was trying to show that if it follows the patterns set by other resorts, where the exchange rate is roughly 2.5 times the DVC per night rate, we can begin to project the point chart. My example was a summer night in a studio projected at 21-25 points.

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

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[UrsulaWantsYourSoul]

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[Okw2020Soto]

Super excited for more details on this resort

 

[FireflyTrance]

Great to see all the progress being made! It would be great is the studios were 21-25 points per night, but then the problem would be that if you have to buy 150 points at minimum, thats too many. I own 125 points at VGC and that has always been enough since our Disneyland stays are typically 3-5 nights.

 

[RKS03]

Not sure this Is the correct area but I saw some discussion in this thread. Has anyone actually booked a hotel at Disney land using points? I never had many direct points before but now have 300 so it could be an option in the future. Am I correct that you basically get $10 credit per point? Looking at the point chart it would be 44 points to over 100 per night for Disney hotel/Grand California. And there’s no exchange fee it looks like. Not a great Value given dues are like $8 per point but how is availability? Assuming there would be no tax so that’s one perk versus renting out the points and using cash to book.

 

[HalloweenBirthday]

Has everyone seen these? Going up FAST! Courtesy of MiceChat!

 

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[redboat45]

Thanks for posting those. I was wondering how it was going.

 

[Nirek]

Anyone with a construction background have a guess at time to completion based on pace of progress?

 

[DonMacGregor]

Anyone with a construction background have a guess at time to completion based on pace of progress?

I'm going to guess at around February or March of next year. That would run it at around 18 months total which is tight, but they are vertical now and it will move quickly structurally.

 

[limace]

Not sure this Is the correct area but I saw some discussion in this thread. Has anyone actually booked a hotel at Disney land using points? I never had many direct points before but now have 300 so it could be an option in the future. Am I correct that you basically get $10 credit per point? Looking at the point chart it would be 44 points to over 100 per night for Disney hotel/Grand California. And there’s no exchange fee it looks like. Not a great Value given dues are like $8 per point but how is availability? Assuming there would be no tax so that’s one perk versus renting out the points and using cash to book.

All I can say is it’s a horrendous value-so if it costs 100 points for a night you could 1800 for those points on the rental market.